Nerf Jason being able to see people cleansing totems

Not the only killer who can defend totems and gens.

No.. i play the killers and i play survivor. I see which killers can do the same as Jason can and even more. Single Larry? Best camper in the game. You can't get rid of his blobs permanently and all he needs to do is shoot another one if EMPed.

Hag, another good example, but you don't see her too much because she's overally pretty weak in these days DBD.

You don't even need to do totems when you have proper nurse or blight player. You'll be too busy otherwise.

Using Jason as an example who can defend totems and gens is really out there when all the strong fast killers can do the exact same thing, but better. Ranged killers like huntress and trickster aren't the strongest killers but damn can they camp the hooks well. Hag and trapper, weak killers but end up in the basement with them, you'll die in there.

I could go on and on, but its pointless because people in this game are unwilling to learn anything anymore. People just rather come to the forums and demand for nerfs or DC in the game without putting any effort in.

After edit note : Also adding that if the killer keeps defending totems do gens. Its not the killers fault teammates are crouching in corners too scared to do anything. I've personally stopped the crouching and i just keep an eye out at my surroundings. I check where Jason can spawn next to me and prepare for chase. Crouching in corners and being afraid is not going to win you the game. You can use it well in chase though if he goes into his mist.

I'll give yeah that one ever since thrill got buffed it's become problematic and probably Jason also needs a not be able to see or make survivor screams while their doing totems he's way to good of a totem defender cause of his design

one of the few changes people want from Jason that i agree with

I main killer btw, and I just recently started my second survivor p100 grind woo. Jason can run thrill with ruin and pop his power constantly to force people off of gens and totems. Most Jason's aren't really good at this so there's that, but majority of the time it is still near impossible for solo queue survivors to cleanse them since there is zero communication.

The game is balanced around solo queue so I personally consider it unhealthy to have perks/powers that specifically punish you for it.

I agree.

unless you're a teenager with no job, its shouldnt be that hard to buy auric cells or use Iri shards if ya got'em.

and how often do soloqer face a "Hex-Jason"? Just deal with it the best you can or start running anti-hex builds and hope you face a Hex-build. No one wants busted killers that give easy wins; you just call him that cause you want easy escapes or just dont want to learn and adapt. Do you really want another "Slaughtering Strike Myers"? Cause thats eventually what you're going to get if you keep pushing these nerfs onto him.

Counterforce, a single survivor perk countering an entire killer build - is that the message here? So, counterforce nerf when?

the hell is happening in Australia that they got 12 minute killer queues

jesus

I mean you don't scream when on a totem. Also, run Small Game. It's a free perk that shows you the placement of totems. Or if you have Jill, Counterforce. I mean totems are incredibly weak on most maps due to their spawn locations. I mean I go against totem Jason and my team pops all of his totems within the first 2 minutes of the game and go on about our day. Jason can't defend all of his totems are once. Either he defends one totem and chases a person or he goes between them never committing to anybody and nothing happens. Hell if he does that 1-2 gens will probably pop before he even gets 1 hook. I've been going against a decent amount of totems recently actually and I think it's great. A good break from the Corrupt, Pain Res, DMS slop that's been the last forever at this point.

Ive been using Counterforce, Overzealous, Boon COH and Inner Strength. Works like a charm.

It quite literally is a solo q issue. How do you expect people to play accordingly without proper communication? Please tell me how the biggest problem here isn't the lack of communication. Also, it was Otz that said that quote and he was referring broadly iirc showing examples of survivor who didn't even understand what certain perks did. Either way the "should not be balanced around ignorance" is a very broad statement that applies quite frankly to everything.

My problems with jason are this:

He can cancel survivor vault animations if he just so happens to OE at your vault. Ive had it happen twice where I went to vault while in chase and was a 1/4 to 1/2 through and it put me back on the other side just to be m1'd through a window. I was held in place while my vault was canceled just to then scream on his jump scare.

He reloads mid chase with no animation lock or recovery both inside and outside of his power AND he can reload off a hook that a survivor is on whether you get hits with the spikes or not hes to forgiving to killers mid chase with no downsides. His slow while aiming seems to be agreed by the community to be one of the faster aim movement speeds with no real downside. After throwing his projectile he also seems to recover faster than other ranged killers. Springtrap still has a cooldown and just like all other ranged killers has a recovery animation from using their powers. (like wesker while hitting or missing a bound essentially the weapon wipe)


His jump scare is bugged and bypasses perks like calm spirit or hardened even while in a locker. I understand the killer instinct baked into jason and thats not what im talking about, no other perk or power in the game lets you scream in lockers and every scream perk thats come out in the past immediately was hotfixxed while his has stayed since the ptb.

His power has no cooldown or limit and is heard by EVERYONE on the map. ( I know its actually something like 12 seconds but thats nothing compared to other teleport killers. I think his power should work more like the spirits where you can only really hear her using it if shes close. Having the whole match hear the power just has too many people urban evasion in fields not working on gens artifically inflating his kill count and match wins. I think this was done by design and aside from how long he can stay in his power everyone just stops what they are doing even if he isnt close because they hear the power and dont want to be the first to go down. The spirit is forced out of her power to give survivors a chance to locate her. The nurse screams while using her power, billy has a loud chainsaw you can hear even when hes undetectable. Ghoul makes out whooshing noises and you know when he is close or far, blight also has the same mechanic where you hear him bounce off objects and you can tell how close or far he is. All these killers love them or hate them have very obvious counterplay that works in a satisfying manner and agreed on by both sides. Jason has all of the benifits with none of the downsides to a chase or teleport power.

This last one is just a personal, I think he should be able to break pallets with his spear.

Since the QoL changes he's pretty easy to play on console now.

I don't normally agree with content creators but I fully agree with Hens saying that full hex builds need to be nerfed. The argument being that Jason is not the real problem. He's just exposing an already existing issue with the game. I think hexes getting nerfed is the most likely outcome when you have a prolific player who is known to be in the content creator program openly saying this. Jason might get a slight nerf but I wouldn't expect much.

Totally agree, almost all jasons now are using the same build with hexes and two addons (deputy's badge/sauna rock), then simply checking their totems and damaging gens in infinite omni mode. It's boring and unfun to play.

even Face The Darkness + Thrill combo is nasty but still counterplayable, Jason just has too much info

you should face against that build, it makes everyone scream and interupts totems constantly. You'll know when you face someone who is aware of it.