What is your dbd hot take you will defend till the end.

Same one I always have:

• In the pursuit of balance, we sacrificed what made the game enjoyable, just to realize, that creating a balanced experience was never really possible to begin with.

Not letting Springtrap disable his axe and go m1 only with certain add-ons was a massive mistake. They could tweak his power to be much more camera focused and enable both play styles much better, but instead to play Afton you need to use the axe no matter what. It's just annoying.

There should be about 10 seconds before abandon feature comes available to be used after requirements are met.

While I do agree its a thing, it's barely hurting the killer queues rn, they are always a few minutes long for a good reason. I feel its a competitive game thing in general.

Tea bagging isn't a big deal, and DBD is the only game I've seen where the player base have actual mental breakdowns over it. If you can't handle tea bagging, you can't handle pvp games.

Literally this, it's not exclusive to one role or game I feel.

You generally dont have groups of ppl team up against 1 guy in those other games though. Im sure there would be more breakdowns in COD lobbies if all negative interactions were directed to a single player.

I mean I know people who won't play DBD period coz it's stressful, making it all about one side is hardly fair, there needs to be a more forgiving experience for both sides. I've been advocating for this for ages.

Survivors need a way to fight back against extreme slugging like 2v8 anti slug, tunneling on the high tiers is also harsh.

Killers need fresh hook incentives or something to help them bounce back from losing a lot of pressure, something to ease the blow of a really bad chase.

People like Spookyloopz while they are right people are using the opinion to us vs them, it's a DBD issue, not a killer issue, just look at all the people coming back exclusively for 2v8 survivor side.

It's just a crouching animation, and it's not that serious. Again, if you can't handle a crouching animation to the point where you start shaking and have a mental breakdown, you don't need to be playing pvp games in general for your own well being.

Kills and escapes are a valid measure of skill. Players too often get caught up in the outcome of a handful of matches and use that as an argument for hook counts, chase time, etc.

Your skill isn't measure based on a few games. Over the course of hundreds/thousands of trials, will a relatively higher skilled player have more kills and escapes vs a common set of opponents? Of course. And it's disingenuous to argue otherwise.

Players are conflating how they want DbD to be played with how skill is measured.

Survivor skill is a bit harder to quantify. Teammate performance absolutely impacts your escape rate. And I would argue survivor gameplay is just as complicated as killer gameplay, even if the skillset can be a bit different. Chase skill is just one aspect. Game sense and decision-making are arguably more important.

I experience this. It's different for everyone but I'll try and touch on my own experience as well as what I've seen from others. I think a lot of the anxiety is actually prior to the match. It's fear of the unknown. Because MMR is not reliable and backfills are a thing, you've really no idea what kind of team you're going to match into.

This is an issue for both roles, sure, but as survivor you might have 3 teammates that are really good and help you if you're below the lobby skill average, or you could have pants teammates which lets you mentally offload the frustration of a loss by self-assuring that it's not your fault.

As killer, you have no backup, and the wild variety in survivor skill you may face match to match, and that will completely dictate your experience. Obvious high-hour duos/four stacks get dodged in the lobby, meaning my poor 400hr self might be served up sacrificial lamb style to 4 comp players with 10k a piece. I don't know that will happen, and that's the problem, because people that are anxious in general will catastrophise the unknown.

As for in-game stresses, some of it is just a result of a PvP game, and the rest would take an entire thread to properly discuss. I'm a bit unsure on the rules about naming specific people, but a content creator with a decent following made a video on this recently which is likely why the anxiety phenomenon is on your radar. He makes some good points. (EDIT: That content creator was literally named in the post you were replying too ._.)

This ^

I think for a lot of people, it's the fact that even if we have a horrible game that we know we have 0 chance of winning - we're still forced to suffer through it until the survivors open the gates and leave

The survivor role if they have a bad game e.g they all get downed at once, can just abandon and be done with it. Killers have to either sit around and wait for the timer or push the survivors out themselves. I don't have a problem with either but for a lot of people just the notion that they might have to do either of those things can be a bit anxiety inducing

Some kind of Killer abandon condition would do wonders. Either when gates are powered and the Killer has no hooks, or when the endgame collapse starts and all 4 survivors are still alive. Something like that

Im stating unlike other games, you go into every game knowing that 95% of every negative interaction will be directed to you as opposed to other players. You see people saying they cant handle the stress and you think it was the TBAGGING? That was just the cherry on top of a mountain.

Do you not see the countless forum threads and reddit posts and such specifically complaining about the tea bagging? If it's just the tea bagging, it's nothing to get upset over. If you're afraid of getting messages from random players that want to harrass you, turn off public messages and set it to friends only. That alleviates so much stress, and you never have to worry about the random angry comment outside of the game.

I literally just said I turn off all of my messages for any new system I get. I turned it off for my Xbox when I was playing Overwatch, and I turned it off immediately when I started using steam. I know how awful people get when playing PVP games, and I'd rather not deal with that. So yeah, it is that simple. I don't know why you're disagreeing and fighting me on that fact.

I'm just saying that I've never seen a pvp game to where so many people have such a strong response to something that's been in the gaming sphere since the conception of PVP.

You've done nothing bot make excessive assumptions and argue from those assumptions. I agree that sending harrassing messages and making toxic comments is bad, but if it's simply tbagging and nothing more, it's nothing to get upset over. If you're feeling too tilted, then just take a break. It's okay to do so, and it happens to the best of us.

And that's all bad, and should never happen, especially over a video game.

But all I'm saying is that Tbagging alone is nothing to lose your mind over, and all I get is "Yeah, but I get this type of harassment and mean comments!" as if that has anything to do with my initial statement.

Tbagging alone = Not a big deal
Every other form of harassment = Not okay

That's it. Simple as.

How many asymmetrical pvp games do you have on that list? Comparing a typical pvp to THIS is like comparing a mallet to an ice pick. Your gonna see cracks much sooner when all the pressure is applied to single point. Maybe instead of telling the guy getting stoned that he should wear a helmet when he leaves the house, you could argue against tossing the stones... even if its the smallest stone there is (teabagging is that small stone incase it wasn't obvious in the metaphor).

Tbagging is always going to be prevalent in PVP games, so your metaphor doesn't really work. It's just something you're going to have to learn to deal with, and I know that sounds cold and cliche, but it's the truth. Otherwise, you're just not going to be able to have a good time. I get it, it's tilting and frustrating, but like I said before, it's okay to take a break and come back in a better mind state.

Tbagging is the most inconsequential part of this whole conversation. I cannot stress enough, the biggest part is that all the pressure is applied to a single person. That is the difference between this and every other game. Even a normally small amount of pressure will cause cracks if you aim it at a single point. Please...stop hyperfixing on specifically t bagging as if im trying to argue that is the cause of all evil.

I remember seeing another game trying it where everyone would spawn in as a survivor and wouldn't have a clue who would turn into the monster once the timer hits 0 to start the game kinda like Among us in that sense.

I saw doja cat ragequit after being killed during the tutorial bot game and my first reaction was "Welp... at least THAT one cant be blamed on the community". I know people can be stressed out while playing either role, I just wish the player toxicity wasn't essentially approved. If I hop on warframe right now and start spamming harassment on chat, im at MINIMUM getting blocked from chat. If that happens in DBD, the general response from ppl is "Have you tried not looking?" People wouldn't be writing the stuff they do if there was consequences. Reporting for ingame goes nowhere if your on PC, meanwhile if ppl blow up my PS chat with vulgarity instead... there's not even a report button. Are we just at the point where if you lay down consequences for obvious abuse, too many players would get bans?

Tbagging is the ENTIRE point of the conversation. You just added more parts to it for no other reason.

All I said was Tbagging ALONE is not an issue. Then you came in with all these other problems, putting words into my mouth and making excessive assumptions and kept arguing from that. I never said harrassment via sending messages, doxxic, etc is okay. All I said was Tbagging isn't a problem, and you went off on this tangent as if I said all forms of toxicity is okay.

You said people were having mental breaks over teabagging, I said no... thats just a very small part of the stress. Its disingenuous to try to wrap up everything as just people that cant handle tbagging.