MMR and Tunneling
Being the forum seems to just be sticking around, thought I had about the updated MMR system. Does it send killers who Tunnel up the MMR ladder faster than those who spread around?
Important points - MMR is on a 1 for 1 comparison. Killer performance is still compared to survivor to determine MMR gain/loss. The value one goes up is the value the other goes down. It has more factors than just escape/death, we don't know what they are, but that they roughly correspond to the emblems. So if both the killer and survivor have a good match I would think that would mean it kind of wash out.
All of this is guesswork being they won't give the actual values, but:
Wouldn't this mean tunneling killers go up much quicker? A hard tunnel makes it very unlikely for the survivors to gain points in multiple categories, but it can still net the killer a lot of points. So under the new system, it looks like the killer didn't just win, but blew the survivors out of the water, gaining even more MMR.
Additionally, the strategy to countering tunneling is just doing gens, which also doesn't result in a lot of points, so even when the killer loses they likely don't drop that much MMR.
I wonder if that is why some killer players have felt substantially affected by the new MMR, and others haven't really noticed much difference.
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How do they feel affected? Like in what sense?
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In the sense of some players reporting much harder matches under the new MMR.
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Coming from soloq surviour preservative as that is role i play most so MMR has had chance to settle
I feel like some of my matches are harder, on the flip side tho I feel like my team mates have been more efficient
Hard tunneling has become more common (along with strategic slugging), but 1-3 gens popping in first chase has also become more common.
I still think lobby dodging and backfill is contributing to the majority of mismatched matches. so many lobbies of mine will be dodge and those lobbies always feel the most mismatched. I have started dodging dodged lobbies which I know isn't helping issue but rather that then being stuck in a mis matched lobby.
Even if one survivor dodges, they could be replaced with the worse survivor and gift the killer a 3v1 at 5 gens.1 -
Sounds self induced. Aren’t they usually of the mindset that anybody else’s fun isn’t their responsibility or something? Correct me if I’m wrong. Same goes for 4mans dead set on winning majority and making the killers experience pretty miserable. Sounds like extremely competitive players being matched with extremely competitive players with similar mindsets. Where’s the problem? That’s how MMR works, they wanted to be the best, dems da breaks.
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My guess would be that tunneling still increases the MMR the most. Since usually after a tunnel the Killer can basically just maximize their BPs, so they can just 3 hook everyone afterwards, which grants them the Hook stages. Unless they have implemented a function which lowers MMR gain drastically after a Survivor is dead, tunneling is still the best way to play to gain MMR, since you have more time to 3-hook everyone afterwards.
(And honestly, I dont even know if such a function would actually make sense… Imagine tunneling Killers staying longer in an MMR where they face weaker Survivors… Would not really be good)
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Not sure if it increases MMR faster than it used to, but tunneling has always been the quickest way to climb up the MMR ladder.
At least until they reach a point where tunneling alone isn't enough to win the game.
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oh yeah for sure, can’t have them going against newer lower skilled survivors at all. That would be so atrocious to do to them.
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Where’s the problem?I don't think there's a problem.
It's just an observation about what the current system might do in comparison to the prior system, that a tunneling killer would go up MMR faster than a non-tunneling killer even though they otherwise might have the same results because of how the points break down.
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