The Legion Rework: This feedback is retired

This feedback is retired

This was my step by step thoughts on what I felt about the Legion Rework. I am a bit underwhelmed especially when seeing the abysmal changes made to the Legion.

People of the Fog, 

Since the release of Chapter 11: The Darkness Among Us, we have received a lot of feedback, both positive and negative, regarding The Legion. With this update, we aim to bridge the gap in the extreme playstyle of this Killer and remove some of the ongoing frustrations when playing as The Legion as well as against The Legion. 

The following changes allow for direct Survivor counter-play, reduce the potential for exploiting certain game mechanics, and bring The Legion’s default attributes in-line with other Killers, all while retaining the core vision of this Killer. 

THE LEGION 

• The Legion’s base movement speed is increased to 4.6m/s. 

This is pretty good, I never understood how a group of rebellious teens moved so slowly. Teens are meant to be up and about, moving faster than adults should. 4.4 did not make sense.

• The Legion’s Terror Radius is increased to 32m. 

It's protocol, I have no words for this but I don't think it's bad.

• Most of The Legion’s add-ons are rebalanced or reworked to account for the changes to Feral Frenzy and the Deep Wound status effect. 

I hope the pin add ons are actually good.

• The Iridescent button addon no longer requires The Legion to apply Deep Wound for the effects to be active. 

This is simply delicious. Thank you.

FERAL FRENZY UPDATE 

• The recharge time of Feral Frenzy is increased and now requires a full power gauge to use it. Once it has been activated, the Legion must wait until the power gauge is full to be able to trigger the power again. 

In line with a killer like the spirit. While I will miss activation at any time, for balance reasons I will accept this change.

• The duration of Feral Frenzy is increased. The Legion spends longer in frenzy. 

Oh thank goodness, hopefully people will play this as intended now.

• The movement speed of Feral Frenzy is significantly reduced. The Legion moves faster than base speed while in frenzy, but not as fast as they did before. 

Wasn't it like 120 movement? Well, as long as I could still use it to great advantage. I don't mind sooooo much.

• The Legion can no longer see blood pools (in addition to not seeing scratch marks) while in Feral Frenzy. 

I... Don't know how to feel about this. It REALLY doesn't make sense that you can't see blood during a frenzy. That what made the Legion tolerable back then. But for balance reasons, I shall accept these terms.

• Feral Frenzy is immediately and automatically cancelled whenever The Legion misses an attack while in frenzy. 

Due to a comment from @Peanits, I no longer really find this problematic. While I still do not agree with this completely, it's not as bad as I had first thought.

Don't ever say that I can't change my opinion. 

DEEP WOUND UPDATE 

• The Deep Wound timer pauses for survivors within The Killer's Terror Radius–regardless of whether they are in a chase or not. 

I... Don't know how to feel about this. Especially with the fear it will affect Borrowed Time's Deep Wound timer. If it does, then the Entity has truly left us. Borrowed Time, in my opinion, was wrongly buffed and is the only reason why I would ever dislike the Legion.

• The Deep Wound timer pauses while Mending. 

(Changed from a John Tron meme.)

• the Killer does not see the Deep Wound timer progress–only the Deep Wound bar to know that Deep Wound has been applied. 
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This is pretty bad. But for balance I will accept it.

• The Deep Wound timer progress is no longer reduced by regular Feral Frenzy attacks. 

Annnnnd there you go. How I feel about all this. I could do a whole thing where I suggest what I think would fix the issues I see but I know it won't happen. And Freddy needs attention now.

Good day y'all.

Edit: Added in further review.

Well, I waited, I watched, and now I can give feedback (because apparently you have to wait to be served a sandwich made of excrements to be able to know it's gonna be terrible [I, again, am not saying the new Legion is bad! But I find it dumb that people don't want to hear feedback before a product is out. Especially if they give no reason for me to believe they are knowledgeable on Legion]) For what it's worth I will always have a special place for Legion in the spot where my heart should be.

Unfortunately all of my points in the initial post has not really changed. The only GOOD thing is... Uh... The longer duration?

There are a lot of things I can say at the top of my head, but I won't waste any time. I'll give my feedback on what I've seen thus far.

LEGION COOLDOWN ADDONS:

I have no idea why you nerfed them like that, especially when you gave the Legion a cooldown of four seconds. You say you play your own games, but I don't have Dead by Daylight on my (dying) computer and it HURTS seeing that long of a stun. Either revert the cooldown nerfs or change Legion's base cooldown back to 3 seconds because I feel physically ill seeing the stun.

LEGION SPEED ADDONS:

You changed it so that all the add ons that once gave faster Feral Speed now increase the range of the Killer Instinct reading range. The problem is that without the SPEED to make use of it, the effects are in fact useless. I'd suggest buff base Legion Feral Frenzy speed back up slightly/moderately, or allow the speed add ons to retain their original effects.

LEGION FERAL MISSED COOLDOWN:

I'll believe losing ALL the power gauge when missing is a bug that will be fixed, but why have it in the first place? The Legion are a group of delinquents, and I, as a young man, can lunge forward with a knife more times now then the Legion can. And that is embarrassing for a number of reasons.

LEGION POWER GAUGE:

One thing that never made sense to me, especially with this update, is why affect the gauge at all? We were all kids once, and some of us had just left the teenage life. So why is it that getting hit with pallets/missing attacks/hitting a person twice cost so much? Especially now that Feral Frenzy doesn't really do much?

I suggest every missed swing reduces the power gauge by 25%, allowing counterplay for survivors and a chance for Legions. Keep the damned 20 second recharge if you absolutely must, but either allow for Legion to use their power when they have AT LEAST 50% charge or reverse the effects of hitting a survivor, so that instead of LOSING gauge, you GAIN it. One or the other, I would never ask for both.

PIN ADD ONS:

Which brings us to the pin add ons, I like that you made them useful, somewhat. The problem is, you have to willing to take a FOUR second stun just to give a debuff to someone, meaning you can't really spread the pain that well.

I would suggest either giving the effects ON HIT, or no longer taking you out of Frenzy when you do hit someone twice.

Optional- Hitting someone twice or more times should instead give you increasingly limited returns on your power gauge instead of taking you out of it, since there is legitimately no reason to actually hit someone twice without a pin add on, and is detrimental even with one.

LEGION VAULT SPEEDS:

I'm a bit effy about this, but I'm aware that it feels slower then it actually is, so I will withhold from making statements for now.

There you go. My thoughts and feelings (and suggestions) about how I feel about it. For those of you who do not want to read all the way to the 7th page.