The Legion Rework: This feedback is retired

These changes sound great to me but I am slightly worried that it will be easier for legion to hit once with feral frenzy and then let power deplete and hit with regular M1 because of his movement speed buff.

@not_Queen @Peanits

Can you confirm whether or not the cooldown reduction add-ons will be reworked?

I avoided these forums because they are a cesspool of toxic trash gamers. You can find me on Twitter,twitch,mixer, Xbox and steam on the same ID. So no I'm not an alt account. I just have better things to do than bicker on a toxic forum.

Sadly this redesign was the straw that broke the killers back. I've said the same thing to dbd devs on Twitter and Facebook. I'm here as I was told this was ideal to reach behavior.

Thanks 😁

This hits the nail right on the head imo

I already thought legion was boring so i didn't bother, this is just insane.

I wonder, would activating Insidious by standing still after hitting a survivor while frenzied work to trigger the timer of Deep Wounds?

Also, will this update make it completely impossible to get The Legion's trophy/achievement?

So does this mean that you can infinitely FF-stab a Survivor?

I like the missed attack change. all killers get punished for missing their attacks, except legion, that never made any sense and never felt fair for the survivor. You could make 5 bad swings and still get hit by legion. I like the part where you can't see bloodmarks during feral frenzy because it felt unfair for survivor to be unable to "escape" from legion since it's like impossible to break LOS because your legit faster than they are.

I don't like the other changes. Terror radius sounds good on paper, because you can see survivors further in your power, but whats the point if you can't catch up to hit them in first place. I don't like the change that makes it so you can't use your power if your power gauge isn't full, that reduces his skill-cap as he can't optimize his power efficiency if he sees other survivors that are grouped as he chases another person.

The inability to hit survivors to further reduce deep wound timer and moonwalk(look at the floor while not in the chase) is mixed opinion. in one way, survivors find that mechanic unfair because gives him 100% certainty to down a survivor, in another way, it's gives his pallet vaulting meaning and gives him a anti-loop. I think that this mechanic is main reason why most survivors disconnect against legion, but no killer really likes fighting god loops because they feel so helpless against them, so it's mixed opinion for whether any killer should options to combat them. That's why people play Nurse, Billy and Spirit and huntress to some degree, so they can speed up downing speed and weaken looping in general.

@Crythor But that's the thing, you CANNOT activate Feral Frenzy after a successful normal hit because that drains the power bar. So Legion's entire power is quite frankly a free early hit. That's it.

@CaptainCastle

You misspelled "Fair and Balanced" ;3

I'm hard pressed to point to you saying anything other than just being contrarian.

I'm all for removing cheeses. This far exceeds that and literally makes legion a M1 killer.by nerfing his ability and buffing him by default, the typical player will now just M1 their way to victory. We have enough of those. Let's not add another.

This plus the missed hit instant end to FF and the buff to base speed will do nothing but promote basic M1 legion.

Survivor mains, and it looks like the devs as well, won't be happy until every killer is just a different skin with essentially the same play.

Can't wait to see them ruin the plague. Better enjoy her until she's destroyed to push players toward buying the next killer and starting the process over.

That's what behavior has been doing all along if people hadn't noticed.

"1 - Well a lot of people did exploit the unintended use of Frenzy of Moonwalking for a long ass time, what did you expect?"

That has nothing to do at all toward missed attacks while in Frenzy. It's good that they'd take out the cheese tactic, but that's heavy handed to nerf them to the point their power hurts them more heavily then the mend a survivor would be forced to go through if missed.

"2 - Next in line for "re-work" - Billy"

I sincerely doubt they're changing Billy next, Nurse is much more broken with the correct add-ons. Freddy still needs that rework, too.

Legion needed changes to remove the unfair aspects that made it unfun to play against them, that much is true. These heavy handed nerfs however are awful and strip Legion of being anything more than an M1 killer with an easy first hit.

Killer main's just need to quit, see how far survivor mains get when they complain so much they nerf killers into not being fun to play with anymore.