Please Don't Change Legion.
Legion is one of the only Killers I actually have fun with the changes will make him/her fell too heavy to use. I get that Frank's mixtape is stupidly overpowered but nothing else about the Legion really is.
If I had to say anything the changes about the mend bar freezing when in Legions Terror radius is the only thing I would make do with.
Anybody who legitimately plays this game knows how to bait out a strike from the Killer so making Legion go through the missed attack animation then the fatigue animation just gives the survivors way to much time to gain ground. Then they have to wait for their power to actually recharge to get any use out of the quick vault that's just bad balancing time.
If these changes go through I would want my money back.
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@Peanits @not_Queen As you guys can see most of the people hate this changes, so can we finally buff the Legion?
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@Ihatelife "Most" people is an overstatement. There's plenty who are fine or even happy with the changes and there's some that are waiting to see how it plays out in game. They've been needing an increase to speed for a while and their ability can easily be cheesed. Legion is very strong in 1v1 since they can ignore windows and pallets. With the changes, he'll be viable for chasing people down, too, without his power. Getting a free first hit and chasing down for a second is far better than having to chase people down with his power and hit them repeatedly.
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Legion's power will no longer help them to down a survivor. Read the Legion update.
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These changes are the equivalent of giving the Huntress a single hatchet with Nurses fatigue after every miss on top of having to reload.
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Yes, their power will help them find people and dish out pressure. Before you'd have to hit them multiple times. Will you hit them? Probably, but it's gonna take a lot of time. Now, you'll walk faster, so that makes up for not being able to cheese your power and get easy downs. @Ihatelife You know how people don't heal against them right now? 'Cause their current speed is a joke and they're forced to rely on their power. Their power isn't a down. It's a bite off a bar.
EDIT: Or were you trying to say that they're no longer injured once hit? Pretty sure they are. You just don't add onto deep wound without add-ons from my understanding. So you get an easy first hit, told where survivors are, and a longer time to be in your power. I'm waiting to see how long and so on before I decide if it's bad, but too many people are just resistant to change.
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Just stop.
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too late, bud
it's over for you
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Legion's base speed right now is actually fine in my opinion I have gotten 4K's just by walking with out even using my power. Legion's power is more of a tool I use if the survivors have balanced landing and sprint burst.
The whole goal of Legion is to push the Survivors as a whole off the generators and heal if you have a whole 4 stack not healing it's because your using Legion's power far too much.
You hit with frenzy get the whole team hurt then you come at them with the normal hits.
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@ZFennecFox I guarantee you that I will have no trouble playing Legion after his change is implemented.
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I appreciate your I can do everything aspect but to be fair not everyone has a perfect computer I mostly play on Console where the framerate craps the bed a good 70 percent of the games. One frame rate dip causes me to miss I get the missed attack animation on top of the fatigue animation and I have to wait to use my ability again while a survivor is teabagging at the nearest loop.
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@Ihatelife It's strange how you weren't a Legion before. Dedicating to the troll?
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I never really cheesed Legion or did any of that lose the chase and follow the blood toxic crap I use his ability to hit the survivor keep up with sprint burst, Lithe, and Balanced landing then chase them like normal.
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The only two add-ons I am guilty of running in multiple successions is Caffeine Tablets and the Button that breaks pallets after hitting the Survivor.
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The problem is that the gameplay that Legion offers is fun for teh Legion, but incredibly unfun for the Survivor.
They should just make the fun Legion Strategies weaker to balance this out
- Make Legion have momentum when in Feral Frenzy. Encouraging weakness to pallet drops to their face.
- Make Deep Wound require more FFhits to down with manually.
- Make Deep Wound Timer was longer to make Moonwalking unpractical.
Changes such as these would encourage both styles of play depending of what you feel like, Dare I say it? "Giving Killers a choice is good..." Multiple way to play a Killer is not bad design, just hard to balance. Come on Devs.
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@fluffybunny I wouldn’t bother with him/her. They’ll keep on trolling no matter what.
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Flash news! Both sides wanted a rework and we’re getting one.
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@ZFennecFox if you got close and missed then you’ll have your power back soon. You get stunned and your frenzy stops going down once you miss. :)
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The deed is sadly done, the only thing we can do right now is wait
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They can`t nerf any DLC killer like that unless they will return all spent bp and money on that dlc/killer.
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Legion exploits a certain game mechanic. Thats "enough" of an issue to get it reworked. Just ######### stop complaining about it until you were even able to test it out.
@JAWS_BDSM: They can do what they want. You dont have any right to get any money back.
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See how the new legion is first before you complain. Legion was fun and easy for peeps but had no counter play in a 1v 1 match up, the changes can actually make him interesting, able to get gauranteed first hits, the irridescent button buff makes him break pallet faster than the wraith with his add ons. You seem to miss that on paper so far, it seem he has counter play now but can end chases quicker. Wait to check out the update to add ons first before complaining.
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Also, at op, high rank legions don't normally miss their first frenzy strike, only noobs who spam their m1 or people not so good. The killer had really low skill and beyond nurse level rewards with gauranteed downs with no thinking or outplay potential. Even without moonwalking.
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Excuse me? I don't wanna have another killers nerfed like the Freddy.
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Yes we wanted a rework, not a massive nerfs. How many times I need to say this?
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Stealing that picture :D
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This game is not a 1v1 tho... the game should be "unfair" for a survivor in a 1v1 situation
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Any legion main that hates this update tell me the new addons?
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Im waiting
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no u. I for one, Like that legion can just down people by walking backwards. Which is very high skill legions say.
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"Is one of the killer I have fun"
What about others fun?
KILL THAT TRASH KILLER
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Only legion main hate this change, every other player who play both side LOVE IT, we all already were tired about that stupid overpowered add-on and exploits.
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Definitely not. I'm Main-Survivor and I hate these planned changes for Legion. This is simply too much. Few things are okay but with implementing everything planned, they will kill everything unique about this killer and make feral frenzy almost senseless.
This makes me so sad because I love this Killer and really like to play against him. I like the variety he brought to the game and it is not too hard to play against him as he is now. Would make me so sad if nobody would play with him anymore because he would become too weak.
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If you would play legion a bit more you will realize that he doesn't need a speed change at all. His power with the righ addons and the right selections of perks makes him a decent and fun killer.
You say there are "plenty" who are fine with those absurd nerfs hes going to get, but i, many friends and a lot of people here are taking their time to comment and tell the devs that this changes are far for being balanced and will mostly, if not totally, damage legion making him a bad and boring killer.
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I already played him like that mostly so I don’t mind the change.
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Interesting... So, the ones who actually play Legion dont like the changes, yet those who dont play them find them good. What does that say about the changes then?
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The only thing I really hate about this change is my loss of speed in Frenzy which makes it quite a bit weaker
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Ill tell you what it says. Your statement is false. I rarely play this killer and even when i do do i find him to be weak and underwhleming.
Any killer worth their salt will not want a killer they play to be an m1 killer espicially after for so long the devs promised to avoid making him an m1 killer.
I agree his chase cheesing mechanics were nonsense but currently he has no anti loop. Which means he is a crap killer. The nerf to his ff speed was overkill so even the first hit isnt "free" either.
Imagine if spirit lost her phase attack but was upgraded to 115 ms or it had a long cooldown. You wouldnt be happy either.
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"Im a survivor main"
Yeah sure, you like going against a frank's mixtape + cold dirt and mori, dont you? :)
Yeah it is too much, just like bnp got nerfed too.. And vigil, that exhaustion nerf killed that perk..
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Completly fine with his changes. Its simply not fun playing against him because there is absolutly no counterplay. I know... nurse is also hard to deal with, but at least you can try to hide and she is kinda hard to play. Legion is a No-Brainer for People who actually have no idea how to play Killer.
PS. I would have appreciated different changes but ANY change for that Killer is good enough (as long as it changes his ability).
PPS. Before some whiners come across: Im also playing Survivor but i am Killer main, so i know both perspectives.
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Nurse tracking is trash, so she has counterplay but legion just reveal your position..
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To be honest as long as the game was good and brought me joy, I really don't care if I will get sacrificed or not in the end. I played many games against Legion, some where quite hard and others pretty easy, like with any other killer. But the games were almost always interesting and exciting because feral frenzy makes him unique and I never had one single facecamper-Legion (maybe just luck, idk).
A few changes they introduced are okay and maybe also necessary, but everything at once feels like too much. Why not implement a few changes first and the others later, if still necessary?
I like to play against Legion, in fact he's one of my most favourite killers. But if they'll nerf him that much, a lot of players probably won't play him anymore, which I think would be really sad because he brought some variety to the game and some stressfully situations which I really enjoyed.
Anyway let's see what happens if the changes are implemented.
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