why does huntress, leatherface, and plague camp 90% of the time?

I see Wraiths camp more than Plague and Huntress. Wraiths go invisible and just lurk around the hook.

Just remove hooks as a gameplay element. Survivors don't like it, Killers don't like it. Use a life system where survivors respawn in a locker the furthest distance from the killer after a 30 second time out.

because plague. LF and huntress are powerful at camping/facecamping.

for example if someone got hooked in the basement. saving him is basically a suicide with LF and huntress. just stay above the stairs with ur hatchet winded up and hit the survivors who are injured then double hit the healthy survivor.

while with plague. limme tell u something. her corruption ignores the first second of unhooking. she can rips u apart once ur down.

In reverse order:

1. The devs have already tried what you've suggested and the result was bloodpoint loss doesn't make people not camp. As for slow down on the sacrifice timer, survivors actually decided it would be a grand idea to do swarm tactics to force killers into a situation where they couldn't get away from the hooked survivor thus giving them a huge advantage in getting saved with no pressure.
2. Leatherface has average mobility and subpar map pressure. Thus you're gonna see a lot of them being camping oriented or ultra defensive. Huntress is slow due to being a ranged killer and gets destroyed on many loops. That leads to her being less likely to just walk off from a hook when the chase has been difficult.
3. The Plague shouldn't be camping, but if people aren't using her fountains then she's now got ranged downs. That puts her in a similar place as other m1 killers and some players may not want to keep getting ran around.
4. If it is always you getting camped then you need to ask yourself what are you doing to get camped? That sounds like a dumb question to ask, but it matters because some things will get you camped to death.

People often try Leatherface and realize he's awful compared to many other killers so they camp and move on to another killer. His ability doesn't:

- generate map pressure.

- help him find survivors.

- help him end chases quickly unless survivors run into dead zones with no pallets or windows.

So the only thing he's good at is camping.

Being a fan of Leatherface I've been trying tons of different builds that help me catch survivors quickly so I don't need to camp.

Right now I'm trying play with your food and had some good results with it.

At 3 stacks he moves so fast which makes me wanna leave any hook immediately.

I think camping is often the result of bad killer design. Fast killers are less likely to camp (unless the survivor annoyed the killer somehow) since they can protect generators and find + down survivors more effectively.

Perhaps a perk that makes killers move faster "outside a chase" would reduce camping?

First, I rarely see LF camp actually, by my experience. Actually most of the time I face LF, it's a killer who just seems to play for fun and doesn't care much about kills. Which is probably also a sign for a weak killer...

Anyway, I know LF is well known for it, but mostly because his ability of multi-hit survivors is what makes him 100% strong in securing kills and snowball situations, when survivors don't accept it.

With Anna I mostly see people have a higher tendency to se her range for "camping from a distance"/soft patrolling, which makes sense. I mean it can bait survivor to a risky unhook and will lead to a quick down following it.

And Plague, well I don't know why. But honestly she isn't a very popular killer to begin with. So I guess people playing her aren't really used to her ability and might go for camping with her. Also Corrupt purge is actually is a similar multi-hit tool as LF chainsaw.

But in general, I rarely see killer camp these days. And if so, then it's people who camp, because they can and have fun doing so. It doesn't feel like a huge issue compared to other stuff like fast gen progress, dcs and tunneling beeing the superior strategy as a killer.

Huntress can stop a save from a distance, and protect the hook from a distance

Plague can sicken anyone who approaches, and if the survivor does not care, then she'll just break them and hook them right when they go for the save.

I actually really like this concept; it'd make the game go by faster for sure.

I've always thought punishing Killers for camping is the wrong way to try and stop camping.

Camping only occurs for three reasons:

1. The Killer feels forced to defend the hook because they've seen/think there are multiple Survivors in the area. This situation isn't the Killer's fault, it's the other Survivors screwing over their own teammate.

2. The Killer is new and doesn't really know what else to do. They either see camping as the best strategy or they just do it because they really don't know what else to do. Punishing this Killer just for camping is justifiable but it doesn't teach them anything or help them become a better Killer. It just makes them think they're being punished by arbitrary rules.

3. The Killer wants to ruin the Survivors' experience or just enjoys camping. They don't have to camp and they might even play normally in most situations, but certain situations or Survivors make them pitch tents. Punishing these people does nothing because they don't care about being punished: camping is either something they enjoy or their way to ruin a Survivor's day.

Rather than punish campers, Survivors who get camped should be rewarded. Every second the Killer spends within a certain radius of the hook gives the hooked Survivor bloodpoints and points toward pipping and Survivors who get downed or enter a chase within a certain time after being unhooked get points for being tunneled/farmed.

This rewards players who suffer/don't get to play the game because of bad teammates or unfun Killers and helps mitigate the unfunness and annoyance of the first two types of camping without being punitive for the Killer while also effectively ending camping as a way to troll people.

Angerery Killer: "git camped dumb meg looping is tahxic"

Meg: "thanks for the 32,000 bp and pip lol"

Erm but woaulant hook rushers be the cause of camping on killers that don't camp woth thoese 3 but the hook is fused before there even 2 feet away not kidding hooked somone in bunnas basement 2 times in a row they was hook rushed and was mad at me for inmideatly downing them and then same game another basement hook and somone unhooks before I even left the basement (this was on the front hook near the stairs as well

People who complain about camping never seem to care that survivors hook camp on top of chases, rendering hunting for survivors unnecessary.