Why some people think ruin should be in every build?
I do very well in a M1 killer (trapper) with overcharge + sloopy butcher + apply pressure..
(Rank 10)
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Be in a rank 1, than we can discuss.
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It's impossible to be in rank 1 with this rank system..
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Seriously? Than why I'm currently in rank one as the killer?
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@Arroz What? No it isn't?
Who told you getting to rank 1 is impossible?
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I dont know, I 4k 12 hooks, did a good gen pressure and chased for a considerably amount of the time the survivor and only got 1 pip -_-
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Because you play legion
it is basically impossible to derank with them
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Well is not but with the new rank system is really hard
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🤣🤣🤣, Hahahah, maybe is that
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Because gens get done way too fast.
Rank 10 trapper. lol
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What's wrong with being rank 10, #########? I can't play the game 1 complete day just for rank.. and btw im a survivor main..
And that's on you, if you are gonna chase the entire match that claudette because your salty OBVIOUSLY gens are gonna get done fast
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I only play Ruin on Trapper. Every other Killer, I run other perks.
But what I find interesting is that a lot of people here are saying Ruin is a MUST at Rank 1. But then I see some of the same people (or different people) in other threads saying that Ruin doesn't matter at rank 1 and only really affects low rank survivors.
So..... which is it?
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You dont need It because you are rank 10. Play rank 1 and you'll see how much preassure you have... People dont heal and instead just rush gens, you'll see that having 4 survivors hurt at the same time means nothing in rank 1.
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@tt_ivi_99 Well, im gonna try to be at rank 1 (With this rank system), and see
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Because unless you're Nurse or Billy, you heavily depend on snowball and stupid survivors to win.
As simple as that.
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it is very hard to apply enough map pressure when the gens are getting done at lightning speed, thats why most people use ruin, it slows the progression of gens by a ton, most people dont even know how to properly hit hex skillchecks
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I play also Spirit, thanks.
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Is billy good with 45 fps? I dont think so I can play nurse..
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Yes, that's the problem all killers should be viable at rank 1-4.
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Why would i run Ruin in my "Stealthy Devour Hope" build?
It'll be gone in a minute at max.
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I main Nurse with 30fps. Its hard, but doable. Remember that console Nurses play with worse fps.
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Ruin isn't even that good, it's just the best we have by far. The games are too fast not to use it.
Also, rank 1 is still too easy to get to currently. If you are still stuck at 10 then you aren't having games as successful as you are letting on, or you're just getting kills from NOED.
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Being red ranks as Trapper is maddening OwO
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Hillbily is a monster once you know curving, FPS doesnt really matter that much with him. I mean... you might miss a P3 Claudette if you try to chainsaw her in a very dark area while she's trying to 360 you but other than that, he is pretty good even with low fps.
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Ruin doesn't need to be in every build, however because of how fast some games can go ruin is often highly recommended especially for when you use killers who cannot apply pressure (anyone who isn't Nurse, Hillbilly, Spirit, Hag or Huntress) or because of bad maps such as the disturbed ward.
The reason why you aren't noticing how fast the games can go is because you're going against potatoes which exist in every rank, if you play killer enough then you will learn what most people are pointing at.
Ruin helps heavily for the cases you're playing as a basic M1 killer on let's say an absolutely massive map like mother's dwelling or rotten fields or as most killers on disturbed ward which is both massive and has a god-like structure at the dead center of the map.
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Rank 1 Survivor mostly, I can't bother with Killer. Not because it's hard - but because first person view sucks.
Is Ruin mandatory? Nah lol Regardless of Rank 1 or Rank 12, it's been a matter of fact that most of us Survivors have adapted greatly to Ruin and plow through it/ aren't even bothered by it.
What matters is how you start off the match, if you aren't able to find someone within 40 seconds of the game, you are most likely going to have trouble. I mean, just learn spawn locations and you might even then, let alone, see a slight change in how your games go.
Not every game though, sometimes Ruin would have helped out but Ruin gets outclassed by tons of more useful perks than a one-time-use, easy to plow through OR/AND destroy the hex.
Ruin sucks.
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It's a must have if you're not one of two killers. If you want to de-rank, play everyone else and not run Ruin. The only thing that sucks about it is that it's a totem. If the time to pop gens was increased, it wouldn't be as mandatory. I made the mistake of unequipping for a few games because RNG likes to repeatedly spawn it in front of survivors. Big mistake. Games are as different as night and day.
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Here recently I've been running a straight hunter wraith getting 4k all the time but they never last long enough to pip
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Ruin is a great time waster. Or at least it can be. At least in lower ranks you always have the people that leave gens to hunt ruin. I had one game on the swamp map where my ruin was actually well hidden. I had two full sacrifices before it was destroyed and zero hens done. Personally I just work through the ruin and break it if I happen to find it. It doesn't matter if you miss the hex skill checks. All it does is take you a bit longer to finish the gen.
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I’m rank 8 (both sides), I use knock out + Franklin’s demise and I main Wraith. I win most games but don’t pip often.
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I just started playing Wraith and I was like 'omg where where you all my life' such a stress free Killer. I now play more Killer than Survivor matches and am having a blast at Rank 10.
I currently don't use Ruin because I know how frustrating it is as a Survivor to encounter. I want my Survivors to enjoy their game because that's just the kind of person I am? lol
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Played trapper for a daily and got DESTROYED today. Given it was haddonfield tho. Next game played Wraith against that same SWF, destroyed them with double reappearance add on!
Trapper is complete garbage lol.
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Like many said, gens are done fast and many survivors can't handle ruin. And even, if survivors can handle it, it slows down their gen process a little bit.
And if I think of my personal experience, even though I think I can handle ruin well, with doing skillchecks etc. There are sometimes moments or days, when I just can't hit them as good as usual. And then the killer has an advantage. A small one, but it's the best they got. That's why they are using it.
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Lawl....
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No way! your a survivor main? we could not tell, I assure you :P
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I really dislike Ruin, regardless of what side I'm at.
As a survivor I hate seeing that the perk not only has the good skill check penalty but also the regression penalty stacked on top of it, whilst I can do great skillchecks just fine. Most people cannot. So its super frustrating seeing the other survivors running around who can't do that wasting time.
As a killer I absolutely loathe feeling like I need to use the perk on every killer (I think pig can do without it with the rbt) because there's so many other perks I'd rather be running than something that is my inconsistent with how effective it is. It can last 15 seconds or it could maybe last for a hook or two.
There's just no middle ground with perk, it either becomes a none factor when a survivor spawns next to it or it becomes an annoyance that lasts for too damn long.
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And at the same time u say ruin isn't needed? Oh man my head is hurting.
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It slows the game down.
just a ‘lil bit.
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