Getting sick of Prayer Beads

I like the idea of her gen protector build, but in practice it's boring on both sides.

How dare you call ANY good spirit player boosted? Tell that to the ones running Noed, myc, and Haunted Grounds *huff puff*. Prayer beads are awesome. Plus, spirits sound bugs arent fixed so she needs add ons

I mean. It's worth pointing out that in order to get value from prayer beeds you need to somehow know someone's exact location from outside your terror radius, which isn't easy to do.

You would need perks like Surveillance, ToTH and Discordance to make it work. All of which themselves have counters.

"Dude it's almost EVERY GAME at red ranks. It is indeed the norm for Spirits."

Then we are playing two completely different games because I play this game religiously on both sides and this is not at all my experience in a massive amount of hours.

"PB removes a good chunk of those skills because you can just hunt down survivors and they have no idea you are even around"

Good survivors are not caught off guard like this.

"This still doesn't change the fact you have to play super immersed/cautious to counter Prayer Beads."

I disagree. However, even if you had to, is having to pay attention and not afk/watch tv mid game actually an issue? Really? Do you want an easy/chill game with no effort required? Now that sounds boring.

"Iron Will is trumped by Stridor"

This is just incorrect information. This comparison has been debunked on the dev streams multiple times throughout the years.

"Also you can hear footsteps and see grass move to track survivors"

Only an idiot or low rank is actually running from a Spirit and walking through grass. You don't blame the killer for a survivor being stupid. You make jukes and walk opposite directions to throw her off WITHOUT going through grass intentionally.

"Regarding the grass moving because Spirit is phase walking THIS IS FALSE. Spirit does not make grass or corn move while she phase walks."

Once again this is incorrect information. Grass and corn DOES move when she goes through them during phase walk.

"Also I have not ONCE said I have problem being yoinked off a gen. THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE, hence why I question your reading comprehension"

And this is what makes me question your memory..."If you play in any other way you will get grabbed off gens/totems" You implied that you and others are getting pulled off AND that it was indeed an issue, hence why you were playing in the way you laid out to try and avoid it.

"it reduces the game to one where you just play super cautious the whole time and it's really boring"

Having to try hard is boring? That sounds like you just want a relaxed and easy game where you don't need to pay attention..that sounds boring.

"that Spirit players will go out of their way to try and yoink you, leading to this "I just won't do stuff" mentality for survivors"

This is only an issue for bad survivors. I also thought you just told me that survivors getting yoinked off gens "IS NOT THE ISSUE" in your words. You are contradicting your statements.

"it removes a large chunk of the skill require to actually play Spirit because you basically have to assume she is always about to show up"

I would argue the complete opposite. If they are always assuming you are about to show up then you aren't ever surprising them because they are always expecting you. It's just asking for more awareness from the survivors and I don't believe that is asking a lot.

"AGAIN read and understand my actual complaints and stop assuming things about me."

I have not assumed one single thing about you. I have gone completely based on what you have told me and things you have told me that simply do not add up.

"Every strong killer add-on has some sort of drawback. PRAYER BEADS HAVE NO DRAWBACKS. None."

Because Spirit is already one of the most skill demanding out of all of them. I'd also argue that most of the negative effects on a lot of the killer addons shouldn't be there, not the other way around.

"But as it stands, any crap tier Spirit can put on Prayer Beads and INSTANTLY get a huge boost at no cost"

PB are trash if you are a trash Spirit. They aren't making you good if you are bad. They just make a good Spirit even better. It also takes one of their addon slots that could've been used for a myriad of other things that the player would normally get for improving her phasing itself.

"Hence why I am see a lot of boosted Spirit players at red ranks using nothing but Prayer Beads every game"

I'd like to see the video footage showing how "boosted" they are.

"Survivors stand no chance, it's literally EZ mode for me"

If you are playing against complete potatoes or at low ranks.

"Subjective yet I have nearly as many up votes and support comments as I do people defending it (in the killer section of a forum that is very killer biased to begin with)."

The majority of the player base plays at lower ranks giving them a highly skewed perception of what is or isn't actually balanced making those up votes quite meaningless. Also, these forums are completely not killer biased. People in these forums like to throw "killer biased" around just because someone disagrees with them.

"Not to mention, you nor anyone else has really presented any valid reason for it to stay the way it is"

I think you need to scroll up and reread all of my posts then. I have literally laid out countless rebuttals to your arguments and provided MANY reasons why it should stay the way it is.

"You are just defending it for the sake of defending it because it's killer. Admit it."

When someone disagrees with you this is what we resort to I see. No though, that is not why I am defending it. I am defending it because I believe it is balanced and all of the reasons you have provided can be summed up into not wanting to adapt, improve, or actually have to try hard to win. Not to mention multiple mechanics and perks that you simply didn't understand how they work but yet you are complaining about them. This is a YOU issue, not an addon issue.

I'd like to see some of your rank 1 survivor AND killer games with Spirit using this addon to validate this issue.

Yes crows are indeed still disturbed during spirit phase as well. I'd actually be fine with the idea of upping PB to ultra rare quality, but that's about it. Most people agree spirit is quite addon dependent which is important when discussing PB because as we both mentioned it prevents another addon from being in that slot. This means bar 1 slot left you are using a base addonless spirit in terms of her phase speed/recovery/length that you would normally have improved and that most consider mandatory for her to function.

And yeah Spine Chill and especially when combined with Iron Will lets you run her around quite easily even with PB as she is flying completely blind, deaf and with you having a heads up every single time. I just don't have any issues with Spirits as survivor at rank 1 even with PB being ran.

Yeah I wouldn't say entirely either, just simply one of the heavier addon dependent killers in comparison to many of the others in my opinion.