More Strategic Killers?

SpaceCoconut
SpaceCoconut Member Posts: 1,962

Are there killers similar to the Trapper, Hag, and Spirit in the pipeline?

I'm not a big fan of the simple chasing killers and prefer to play chess with survivors with traps and mindgames.

I'm just curious if we can expect a new killer that requires more planning and forethought in the future or if we're just going to keep seeing more killers that simply chase after survivors without much strategy to them.

I'll probably ask this in a Q&A sometime, but I wanted to get this thought out before I forgot about it.

@not_Queen @Peanits

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  • Tru3Lemon
    Tru3Lemon Member Posts: 1,357

    Probably in the future but most ppl already know whos the next killer and thats ghostface

  • Acromio
    Acromio Member Posts: 1,737

    God, no. Set-up killers are terrible.

  • ApeOfMazor
    ApeOfMazor Member Posts: 471

    Probably not. They seem to just boil the game down to waste the survivors time as much as possible while chasing them.


    And yeah because the game is all about wasting survivor time setting up just means genrush and failure.

  • SpaceCoconut
    SpaceCoconut Member Posts: 1,962

    Only if your set up is terrible.

    I mean... Hag is the most lethal killer on PC and second on both PS4 and Xbox...

    I disagree because in this sense it applies to every killer. You can use their power strategically, but it doesn't require foresight and planning to the extent that Trapper and Hag require to do well.

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,872

    I hope they add more strategic killers, they're the most fun. Getting inside the survivors head, outsmarting them is just so satisfying. Whereas killers like Nurse are not, because she's pretty boring- blink hit, blink hit, hook and repeat.

    Btw love how much Spirit you play now.

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807

    Strategic Killers can be great. Not all of them are (looking at you trapper) but Hag is a great example of a good one.

    I wouldn't say Spirit qualifies but I guess that depends on what you mean. Does Myers qualify? He's upper mid tier if he does.

    I want to see a Stealth/Zoner hybrid at some point. That seems like a really cool combo

  • Acromio
    Acromio Member Posts: 1,737

    The Hag is the exception that proves the rule. The other set-up killers are terribad.

    Oh, yeah, because hearing 3 gens pop by the time you've placed 2 bear traps is definitely fun (and fair).

  • BBQnDemogorgon
    BBQnDemogorgon Member Posts: 3,615

    Probably not anytime soon of the licensed killer rumors of pinhead/ghostface are true.

    Can't see gow they'd be strategic

  • SpaceCoconut
    SpaceCoconut Member Posts: 1,962

    I put spirit in the same category because of her built in mindgame of "is she phasing or not". With the right planning, you can push a survivor to a certain location and be able to use this mindgame more effectively.

    Yesterday on the coal tower I hit a survivor on the ground level outside the tower then phased to the second floor where another was healing. She thought I was chasing the first survivor because I planned it that way and scored a pretty fun surprise down.

    With any other killer she'd watch the stairs and run away when she saw the red stain :)

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    Yes! I would like to see more strategic killers

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,222
    edited May 2019

    Spirit's not a strategic killer. She's a mind game killer that's a very different thing. Strategy implies that you have to do some sort of setup to catch survivors. Trapper and Hag are strategic killers. A mind game killer is one where you have to out think your opponent in real time, you're not doing any sort of setup for it. Spirit is really the only killer in this category, though Nurse could qualify too (though IMO she is more of a brute force killer like Billy or Huntress).

    Plague is a semi-strategic killer because of how you have to properly use Vile and Corrupt. Vile is for controlling space and setting up zoning. You puke on some gens and objects to set up for a survivor getting sick, or to deter survivors from doing stuff. Then you have to use Corrupt at the right times, and you need to plan out which fountains you will and will not take. If you take Corrupt every time its available you end up wasting it and you lose. You have to wait for the right time, usually when you have multiple survivors injured/Broken or a basement hook, stuff like that. She's not strategic to the same degree and Trapper/Hag though.

    The problem I see with future strategic killers is that there might not be many more viable abilities. Like what other trap-like power could a killer have that's not just a copy/paste of Trapper/Hag? Maybe if you look hard enough you can find 1 or 2 powers that would work, but I don't see a lot of other ways to make these types of killers.

  • SpaceCoconut
    SpaceCoconut Member Posts: 1,962

    We only need one or two strategic killers I think anyway so...

    But you have an interesting question that I hadn't thought about.

    I suppose another trap using killer could be one that "sticks" to the survivor who triggered it giving them an effect that affects them and any survivors around them with a debuff for a period of time.

    Maybe a killer that talks to the crows and when disturbed the survivor gets the afk crows immediately or the particular crow follows them until they're injured.

    Maybe something like trapping a generator which causes it to explode blinding or slowing the surrounding survivors for a period of time.

    Or similar to the Plague where an interactable becomes trapped and the result is a movement debuff to the survivor. Think sticky tar on a chest, pallet or vault.

    There are ideas, it's just a matter of the right implementation.

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,872

    Ruin helps with with gens popping.

    Also, his snowball is satisfying. You can’t deny it

  • DBD_Pinhead
    DBD_Pinhead Member Posts: 763

    Strategic killers require time. Of which you don't have when gens are popping like Orville Redenbacher.

  • 53nation
    53nation Member Posts: 681

    Pinhead could work as the next strategic killer. Though i'd have to rewatch hellraiser to explain why.

  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,384

    @Peanits Can you get a 3rd one before the end of the day.

    Find out next time on Forum Ball D

  • DBD_Pinhead
    DBD_Pinhead Member Posts: 763

    He or Cenobite would probably work like the Hag, setting up Lament Configuration boxes that survivors trip, releasing hooked chains like a web.