Why did you nerf Legion so hard?
So I appreciate the couple fixes that you did for him, so thank you. I don't understand why you decided to make his Feral Frenzy only be used when it's full. I can't tell you how many times I was able to put more pressure on a survivor as they pull the pallet down and I immediately jump it then turn it off. Your Deep Wounds threat is a joke. I understand not seeing the timer, but if I can't apply consistent pressure with it, it's nothing. Not to mention for some reason it doesn't activate nurse's calling, and that's been an issue for forever. Another big issue with the nerf, is if I miss my Frenzy ends. That, by itself, actually makes me not want to play the only killer I like anymore. Sometimes you have wonky hotboxes or autoaim. Sometimes the survivor just makes you go brain dead and you miss. That shouldn't make it end, that's atrocious. Coupled with the "I can't use it until it's full" issue, there is barely any reason to play him. You are punishing the person for using his unique ability. So I ask why did you make those choices. They seem poor.
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the silent majority hates the legion according to the polls so those of us who are vocal cant do a thing we are outnumbered and will never tip the scale in our favor
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Because survivors whined the house down, as they always do every time killers find a way to counter their toxic and abusive playstyle.
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Simple, because legion has little counter-play. And the full bar thing, if the Legion can Frenzy whenever he/she likes, what about the spirit, she can't, how is that balanced.
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But I want to understand why. He isn't broken, he isn't S tier, he isn't common. There is no reason to punish him that bad though. He was easily my favorite killer besides trapper, but they gave him a disgusting animation now. It's gross to watch. That's off topic though
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With all due respect, the Billy can. He was a fantastic hybrid of him. His whole character is MANEUVERING and yet they took that away. The Billy can do it on command and a hell of a lot worse. It had easily counter play, I hardly ever get caught, much else killed by a Legion. People aren't afraid of Deep Wounds, if you are your lying. It's not threatening.
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@PeenutsButt3r Spirits power downs you so it needs more limitations compared to Frenzy which does not.
Even before it wasn't fast enough for the legion to be viable unless you used Franks mixtape.
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You cannot just look at a single aspect of a kit in order to determine balance. The Spirit's power requiring full charge and the legion's not is hardly enough information to declare an imbalance.
Inconsistency? Maybe, but balance means you need the strength of the kit as a whole matched up against the opposing kits (the survivor's)
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I actually thought it was really good before. I hardly ever lost a chase, I loved it. But what I addressed is really putting some bad tastes in my mouth for him
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I do understand that it was necessary to fix the Deep Wound state, since it was almost impossible to escape the Legion while he was moonwalking. But guys, I am shocked about what you've done to him. I know he is one of the most hated killers, but still there was no reason to nerf him that much. Even without taking a look at the changes on Feral Frenzy itself, I got to say that even the changes on the terror radius were wrong, but okay.... Looking at those changes on Feral Frenzy now.... you really just did KILL him. Please, re-think what you did.
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What?? They didn't nerf legion, increased feral frenzy time makes it an already hard task to escape (no looping/vaulting) from legion next to impossible.
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They nerfed his speed in ff and his ability to down with it. His terror radius increased his cd on his power is increased. A missed hit triggers cd. He requires full gauge to injure.
In return he has 115% ms and he has a longer duration. But go on i want to hear how he didnt get nerfed. Because i don't see a single thing else thats a buff minus crap add on changes.
Legion is a hot garbage killer who brings nothing unique to the table. Lazy changes no new tools just a basic m1 killer everyone give a clap to the incompetent balance team who couldnt figure out how to create a nuance killer with no redeeming value.
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His base speed was increased now 4.6, with missed attack, you'd still be able to down whoever you're chasing, because the injured survivor needs to mend. So, basically if you're not noob, you have a guaranteed down on whoever you're chasing, which tbh makes it unfair to a survivor being chansed, as there are very few situations in which you successfully get away from a legion.
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You cant be serious your conplaining legion is hard to lose despite being unable to see blood in ff and he has basic killer movement speed. By your logic billy and wraith is impossible to lose.
The mend bar dosent go down while in his tr so you can mend at your leisure did you read the ptb patch properly.
Its seems to me that your complaining legion has a basic killer kit and is op even tho not only does a lot of killers have a similar kit but unlike legion there power is actually threatening in a chase.
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Seriously though, he's underpowered to most. I personally play on console, and luckily my skill with legion helps me still win, but I have to adapt and basically not even use his ability for offense. I have to use it to move, at that point, why not use Billy. They butchered my boy and I miss him. He needed a buff if anything, like I mentioned in the OP. He isn't hard to lose, he is just the same. It doesn't matter on the killer, it matters on the person behind the killer. I'm garbage with nurse and Billy, but since their S tier I must also be S tier. It just doesn't correlate properly. The moonwalking or looking down was a big issue for sure, but they also nerfed more than necessary. Overall bad balancing.
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Okay let's give an update on this garbage balance. I singlehandedly lost the match because of the whole re re idea of "I need to wait until the meter is full" until I can use it again. Seriously they need to go back on this, that's absolutely dog door Doo. I want to use more vocal language but I have no idea how the policy is here. Everyone is talking about it in the feedback why haven't they responded!
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