Holding the game Hostage?
Is this not holding the game hostage.
Just had a game where the survivor got down. Hatch was closed, but the survivor could not open the gate in time so he got downed. Surely this is holding the game hostage if the killer leaves him on the floor waiting for the end game timer to go down at its snails pace because a survivor is down.
If not then. Really fun gameplay devs.
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It is not. It takes four minutes for the survivor to bleed out, at which point the game ends. We only consider it to be holding the game hostage when there is no possible way for the game to end.
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It's not. Holding the game hostage means the game cannot end. With this, the game can end in, at most, 4 minutes.
The EGC is the shiny new toy that people want to try out. This will get better with time.
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How is it taking the game hostage? There's an end coming soon™.
It's not like before where survivors spent 20-60 minutes roaming the level to force the killer to DC to get going with their life.
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The EGC is an improvement but Idk why survivors can't now just press a button to bleed out faster, especially since killers can close the hatch.
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Survivors teabagging the exit gate for 20 minutes is fine but a killer wanting to see a new EGC animation for 3 and 1/2 minutes is not.
Survivorman logic cracks me up
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If they're teabagging at the exit gates for 20 minutes, you should probably hit them and force them out.
Getting back on topic, though, while it exactly ideal, there is at least a hard limit on how long it can go on now. Previously the killer could hold you there indefinitely. You should hopefully see less of that once people have had a chance to see the death animation and the luster wears off. Waiting for someone to be sacrificed that way awards less points, so most people are going to want to hook you instead.
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Think you should listen to the dev mate.
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Sounds like slugging is griefing.
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Even the dev agrees with me.
Plus having to 2 doors does not take dc.
About survivors running around. I will refer to my previous answer about catch them. If they are immersed then, find them. Was how this game was intended.
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Can you please show me where a killer hold the game hostage in a basement or a dead end and you created a topic about it? Just because a lot of people created a lot of this situations doesn't mean putting a timer of 4 minutes now is okay. Some people keep forcing this situation, even if it's just 2-4 minutes, it's still time wasted. It's less time, I agree, but still the same. The problem is not solved, just has a timer now and it looks cool, so it will get forced even more often.
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It literally just came out. Why are you pretending to know the future?
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Because allowing survivors to suicide on hook is bad enough. If you allow survivors to suicide on the ground when there is a killer actively looking for them to hook....this is just another mechanic to rob the killer of potential BPs.
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Your 1k in BP is not worth 4 minutes of my time. Simple solution would be to award the BP if the survivor bleeds out on purpose.
WOAH.
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How can a killer hold a game hostage for 3 hours like Survivor can?
O body blocking the basement? Yeah there's tons of instances of that happening for hours on end /s
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So when new killers are released, do you also assume that every single person who plays killer, from then on until the end of time (or until the next killer is released) will be playing that new killer and nothing else? Or do you assume the logical thing, which is that people will get tired of playing the same thing over and over again and will change it up when they get bored?
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I agree with the OP the timer shouldn't slow down when someone is downed or hooked!
Signed, Killer mains.
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This also happened before end game collapsed, if a killer downed all the survivors before a 2nd gen was finished, there was no hatch to escape to by crawling, so they could let you bleed out.
This definitely happened a lot with nurses because they could down 4 survivors before 2 gens were finished the easiest, so I wouldn't say it was super rare before.
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good point. Just did not face that, saw it happen but did not face it.
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You say that as if you have the power to make it happen....which it won't. Offering a killer the same amount of BPs as 3 hooks and a sacrifice from a survivor controlled "suicide bleed out" and it's gonna be a slugfest. There will be no need to hook. No more flashlights, no more body blocking...your "WOAH" solution, just removed the hook mechanics, entirely. Deerstalker combined with Nurses Calling would be the new meta.
I thought of that inside 2 minutes....imagine what THIS community would do with it in 2 days.
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Well, here's the kicker: we know it will still happen. It will happen less and less each day, however, until it's as rare as letting all the survivors bleed out. Because right now it's the shiny new toy, and everyone wants to play with it.
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No one ever got banned for slugging a Survivor to death.
This is the same, except cool.
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No, your argument was that it will keep happening ad infinitum, or close enough. The reality is that it will go away on its own, in time.
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What are you even babbling about? I'm talking about specifically in the EGC when the killer is slugging you just to get the animation. You should be able to bleed out faster.
Pay attention before you try making smart comebacks.
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Bleeding out faster denies the killer the chance to hook, which denies BPs.
Killers already get denied enough BP.
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I addressed this in my initial reply.
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No problem that I can see....get the Devs to agree to awarding any remaining possible BPs, and yeah, suicide away during EGC.
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If they made you bleed out faster in egc I can promise you you'd see people throwing a fit because it's a nerf to Unbreakable and you'll get tons of people crying about how they bled out before they could pick themselves back up.
This slugging will stop in a week or so when everyone is bored of the kill animation. Just suck it up
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Like I said in my initial comment, you would press a button to make it happen.
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Your reasoning of Survivors did this and this. Is the exact mentality that will destroy this game. you are not eliminating a problem but just adding to it.
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It's not about fixing a problem for some of them it's all about revenge.
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What are you talking about using mods. The guy just agreed with me. Stop whining. He was even here before you and disagreed with my main point.
Looks like someone is a bit jealous.
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You only have a problem when the other side does it. You are not eliminating a problem, just adding to it.
You need to be objective.
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Love how you disagreed when I tried to improve player quality. I can really tell your mentality when it comes to this game.
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Can you blame them, when many people were all about causing the problem in the first place? Now you're asking them to bite the bullet again and deal with double standards again.
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Very hypocritical when you literally just did it.
Also the issue was not the same. This killer could still go and get them. It is just that most killers go off and hide in a corner when they see a door open. Of course the survivor will go for the hatch or just get more bloodpoints.
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Yes I can blame them. As they are too blame?
don't see your point at all. If they are causing it they are too blame. The devs literally implemented this too counter it.
But now you see it as fine when a killer leaves a survivor on the floor with no hope at escaping. Like It needs to just end it when that last survivor is down and the doors are not open.
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Yes I can blame them. As they are too blame?
don't see your point at all. If they are causing it they are too blame. The devs literally implemented this too counter it.
But now you see it as fine when a killer leaves a survivor on the floor with no hope at escaping. Like It needs to just end it when that last survivor is down and the doors are not open.
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Here's one more wild idea: allow survivors to leave the game in the EDC but their character stays behind for the killer to do what they want with. If they want to slug them so they can see the animation, cool. If they want to hook them for the better BP yield, great.
Honestly, I defend the devs a lot but when they come in here and say "it's just 4 minutes, no big deal" it's kind of insulting. Here we got killers and survivors arguing about really petty crap and the devs could easily create a solution. It's insulting that they allowed survivors and killers to hold the game hostage before EGC and now it's insulting to say "just wait 4 minutes." People have lives. If a game is hopeless you should be able to move on to the next one or get on with your day. Cause you're certainly not allowed to DC.
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Man I have never received soo many vote downs just for wanting to improve player quality.
Damn.
Guess this game is doomed.
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Simple solution: reduce the timer to 10 seconds.
No more hostage situations.
You're welcome!
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Y’all keep saying go to the other gate like you realize there’s a timer
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