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Freddy thoughts

What does being in the dream world actually do now? there was no info on that given on the stram. Only that the debuff no longer is in affect. so unless the aura reading is still there, whats the point of the dreamworld? I will try my best to wait for my proper response until i have actually tried it, but i fail to see the point of the dream world if the debuff isn't there, also if freddy is going to be in the dreamworld with that terrible ashy fog. And survivors can see him while awake he will be stripped of one of his most powerfull and fun power.

I know we dont know everything yet, but going from what was said on stream this new freddy is not better than the old one.

I know many will say freddy is weak, but that is because they have not mastered the way to play him effectively, something i have. And current freddy is uniqe in a way no other killer currently has. The sense of power you feel knowing where survivors are without them knowing, even if you can't actually get to them right away. And his proper playstyle promotes going from target to target, spreading chaos fear and confusion. Something i feel will be stripped away from him in this new version, but i might be really wrong.

And what happened to the idea of making him stronger for each survivor put in the dreamstate like powering him up if the survivors are reckless. I think it was Mclean who said that in one of his streams awhile ago. I really liked that idea.

Also is there any chance of maybe keeping the old one as an alternative? i highly doubt this would happen, but would love to have the choice.

Comments

  • ApeOfMazor
    ApeOfMazor Member Posts: 471

    Honestly dream world is probably just a thematic thing now. I missed how survivors even enter the dream.

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,873

    He's gonna be S tier now. Like ridiculously good. I love it.

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    Being in the dream world makes Freddy's Heartbeat become the Lullaby, and it makes you suceptible to either Fake Pallets and/or slowdown traps, depending on which one the devs implement.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671
  • madsweeney84
    madsweeney84 Member Posts: 31

    Honestly in the right hands and right build (or hell , even without perks), even with the complaints against him, Freddy can be OP AF and with the rework I believe I can break him even further.

  • typervader
    typervader Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 513

    We dont know for sure what it will do complety.


    Because its not Direical and its harder to tell where he is coming from.

  • RIP_Legion
    RIP_Legion Member Posts: 428
    edited June 2019

    He honestly sounds fun now, a real dream demon. If they bring all 3 he's gonna be stupid strong, if one of them gets cut I figure it's gonna be the gen teleport. I'm rubbing my hands together, placing snares at loops, putting a fake pallet in the shack at the start to make them guess which is real and if they guess wrong they're totally screwed, and gen teleporting to chase someone and then immediately snap around and teleport to a gen where a dude is.

  • Karltastisk
    Karltastisk Member Posts: 529

    I don't see how fake pallets that you most likely have to manually setup. And be near a survivor for 60 seconds before you can take advantage of said fake pallets are better than 50% reduced action speed (even the gate) and map wide aura reading outside your terror radius that can be dimished by perks and addons even furter. I mean doctors addons does the same thing, but automatic. And can be used instantly. And used as a way of tracking survivors just by going around in threatment mode. The only redeming power they showed was the teleport, but i swear if it has a 1 minute cooldown and slowdown and stun on teleportation i will be so so dissapointed.

  • DBD_Pinhead
    DBD_Pinhead Member Posts: 763

    Fake pallets that you have to set is a waste of Freddy's time. Where would you have time to set up such things on top of everything else? The Doctor's pallet setup is better.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    Neither the TR or lullaby is directional so neither one is giving you a better direction or distance.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    I was thinking this as well. Killers already don’t have enough time, much less to set pallets. I’d rather just have the decreased action speeds back to slow the game down increasing the more you were asleep. Seeing as how it’s even easier to wake up now I don’t see the issue in that.

  • KaoMinerva
    KaoMinerva Member Posts: 451

    We'll just have to wait until he's out. I'm still scared.

  • Karltastisk
    Karltastisk Member Posts: 529

    This is exactly what i think, but still before we get our pitchforks out we should see how he plays :P

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    The devs allege it's not as easy to pinpoint Freddy's whereabouts based on random lalalas. I guess whether that's true or not remains to be seen

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    I think we need to see the fake pallets in action. I know they said that the pallets explode into blood when they are used, so we'll see if that ends up doing anything or if that's just a purely visual thing.

  • TheGhostofZgor
    TheGhostofZgor Member Posts: 334

    Can his rework add his proper red and green sweater? I don't think it is right now, it looks red and black.

  • Karltastisk
    Karltastisk Member Posts: 529

    It is red and black. And the license holders wanted it that way (i heard)

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647

    I'm stoked about him... the work they put in to Freddy appears to be awesome!... I have yet to buy him and I've had the game for over a year and I wont buy it until the rework goes live and I see the condition hes in

  • DBD_Pinhead
    DBD_Pinhead Member Posts: 763

    If he has to set up fake pallets, it's not worth seeing in action. If it takes less than a second maybe. But meanwhile, you're getting gen rushed.

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647

    Maybe its something he can just do on the go like he waves his hand in a pallet spawn location and 1 appears..... or since theres such map pressure for him now he'll need the time waster? .... I'm so stoked for the ptb!!!

  • Karltastisk
    Karltastisk Member Posts: 529

    He is quite good now, don't belive what people say that he is the worst killer. The worst killer in the game is the plague. wich was also proven with the recent statistics where she is placed the second worst on the sacrifice with below 50 % kill rate just above legion. As long as you embrace freddy's current playstyle and don't fall into temptation of camping and tunneling he is great, he has terrible defense so go all offence with him never try to defend hooks. or focusing on a single target.

  • Mochan
    Mochan Member Posts: 2,886

    Could someone give me the lowdown on the Freddy Rework?

    So far what I'm getting is he has 3 possible powers:

    * Teleporting to any gen wtih 5 second delay, making it spurt blood

    * Can setup fake pallets

    * Trapper style slow traps?

    And he is no longer invisible (thank god)


    Overall looks like a huge nerf to me.

  • Karltastisk
    Karltastisk Member Posts: 529

    Yes from what we have been told basically yes, also it is easier to wake up, and no more slow action speed in dreamworld and 60 seconds to get in dreamworld when within the terror radius, but we only know the rough stuff so we shouldn't get to heated until we have seen it in action, im going to bed now im getting to worried :P

  • HavelmomDaS1
    HavelmomDaS1 Member Posts: 1,948

    I'm really excited, I just hope he is at least C tier, has a good skill cap and learning but also is fun to play as AND verse against. Why it comes out he's even better than c tier it's even better

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871
  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647

    It's a whole rework with the potential of him being top tier... he can teleport now to any gen cross map or short and this teleport most lik has addons so cross map in the matter of seconds is a huge buff with the ability to attack with no waiting period on top of it he has the possibility of having to traps at base... this is rework is a ton better the what we have now.... Freddy easily bullied

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671
  • SmokePotion
    SmokePotion Member Posts: 1,089
    edited June 2019

    in the dream world, freddy can set up fake pallets, and snares on loops to slow survivors that use them.

    On top of this, they took my teleporting to generators idea, even the part where i said it could be used to mind game a chase.

    So, I really like what his kit sounds like, and I will probably be getting him now.


    edit: I bet they wanted Fredy to be able to directly manipulate the dream world, like change loop setups, ect. But i bet it didn't work with the code. So adding slows and fake pallets was the next logical step.

  • GhostrickSpecter
    GhostrickSpecter Member Posts: 460


    Low Kill Rate doesn't mean she's the worst killer......

    If that proves, then why Nurse not having the highest kill rate as she's the strongest?!

  • Karltastisk
    Karltastisk Member Posts: 529
    edited June 2019

    Okey maybe saying she is the worst killer is an exaggeration but she is really underwhelming her power gives survivors short free heals and as long as people act like she's a tier 3 myers while on her corrupt purge she is non threatening, I have faced maybe 1-2 plagues that have managed to be scary, but that has been more due to my team being garbage than her character being good. Nurse is a hard killer to master on pc so you will have lots of people that can't play her properly fail. And on console you will never see her at all unless you come across a truly dedicated player who does not get stopped by lagspikes, framedrop or the sluggish controller stick gameplay she has on there.

    Edit: Or a new player that doesn't know she is nearly unplayable on console.

  • Impact
    Impact Member Posts: 89

    I was delighted with the short clip we saw of the Freddy rework.

    I feel that Freddy currently has an OP mechanic (invisibilty) and weak mechanic (putting survivors to sleep). The idea being that they're meant to create a balanced killer, which they don't.

    I love the way he becomes more visible the closer he gets. We also have balance with waking up, in the form of alarm clocks. I think it will be more balanced if he can put survivors to sleep quicker. Perhaps we have different stages of sleep? Such as light and deep?

    But what about the dream world? We should have the current debuff to actions. But Freddy's theme is all about illusion. So I'd like to see doctor-like illusions when asleep - but more! Let's have fake pallets, generators, killer, jump scares, survivors, totems, etc. It could be a real nightmare for survivors! Do you expect anything less from Freddy Kruger? I don't think he should set his own traps though, that would be more like the trapper and would be time consuming.

    I'm not sure about the aura reading aspect though, given the above.

    I'm inclined to think the generator teleport ability is OP. Seems like the hag with a mint rag ultra rare add-on.