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The ghost face problem

Ashcchi
Ashcchi Member Posts: 16

So, out of love for this game I have to not only give feed back but possible solutions to his obvious issues. I personally am confused on how this made it past internal testing as this was clearly given a "All the mechanics work, Make the community test it." Mentality. This is not acceptable, especially when you hype him up so much. Now, I apologize as this post will be kind of long, to talk about a killer's power I must compare him to killers with similar mechanics to get a feel for where they belong in the power level of the rest of the roster.


Comparisons: Starting off we have the three killers he has similar mechanics to. Two are obvious one, Pig and Myers are the big two in that suppression of terror radius and the exposed status effect, Hillbilly being the one I personally think is comparable as a close up chainsaw to guarantee a hit is similar to being close by to stalk and apply exposed. Now Ghost should be in theory more effective than myers while he is in tier 3 as single target rationing of exposed gives him a lot of leeway to get the drop on survivors, similar to a silent chainsaw rather than having loud music announcing your presence. Pig is a bit harder to compare as the terror radius suppression is a big advantage but is easily countered by just looking around so why is it that a killer with a very similar terror suppression mechanic has not only an announcement for it but has a instant cancelation? Myers' stalk can not be canceled by looking at him, nor can Pig's crouch.


The balance of his power: Yes being able to apply the exposed status effect is big, especially choosing when to apply it to an individual survivor for when you get the drop on them. However with his power currently is there is too much risk for too little reward, When you announce you are going into stealth mode you give the survivors a lot of info, 1 that you are playing Ghost face and 2, Look low because I am crouched. This not only makes them prepared to look for you but also makes it so that they can instantly apply whatever strategy they think works best. Summarizing that previous line you are actively punished for using your most basic tools in his kit. Breaking his stealth is important. If the devs want to keep the spot attached to the third person camera instead of applying a new one to the head of the survivor to catch the ghost that is fine, But know that to make his power even remotely playable in time for launch you will need to add a timer to cancel. I suggest a 1.5 second timer that the survivor must look at Ghost face to start, This timer should also reset upon a 5 second timer in my opinion as that is plenty of time for Ghost face to realize he was spotted and move out accordingly.


The quick fix for his ability is obvious to me that a short timer added to his stalk to cancel it out instead of the current pan the camera strategy that would be employed now. A possible much longer but healthier fix is making it so the model of the survivor has a camera attached to it that breaks stealth instead, get rid of the noise notification for stealth as you can assume he is going to be using his power.


I love this game and as a survivor main I want to see more interesting killers. Devs dropped the ball hard here but they should be given another shot at this and hopefully this embarrassment will not happen again. Please post any and all opinions on the matter more complicated than "That is OP" or "Ghost face Sucks." We should be helping to solve the problem as well as complaining.

Comments

  • RoKrueger
    RoKrueger Member Posts: 1,371
    edited June 2019

    Well said. I don't like that he practically screams (pun intended): "I AM GHOST FACE!!! I WILL BE STEALTHLY STALKING YOU NOW!!!"

    Don't make the sound global at least.


    Great mori anymation by the way. I love it!

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,369

    Ghostface, and to a lesser extent Plague, are kneejerk reactions to the original iteration of Legion. Where survivors had no counterplay to the original Legion, Ghostface has no counterplay to survivors simply moving their camera. Survivors are in complete control of Ghostface. That's a problem.

  • FayeZahara
    FayeZahara Member Posts: 965

    Ghost face is such a bootleg and it makes me wish he was scary movie one. XD

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,369

    He is the Scary Movie one. Why do you think he's so weak?