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Nurse NERF? Stupid Move!🤦

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  • FeelsVeryBadMan
    FeelsVeryBadMan Member Posts: 197
    edited June 2019

    Wraith and Pig can be good if played by good players.

    Plague gets punished by Survivors not cleansing, but at the end of the day, they are 1-hit down for the whole game.

    When did I say mastering looping should make you survive every game? Of course it shouldn't. It's not very good for balance when you have a character that can completely disregard everything the Survivors have and get 4ks just cause you managed to master her. But yeah, there aren't many good Nurses left.

    Sorry bud, but you lost me at "even elite survivors would smash you with FMT". Yeah... no. If you got destroyed with the old FMT, combined with all the Killer meta perks, you need to git gud. Honestly.

    This game has 15 killers. And all can do well in Rank 1, because Rank 1 isn't populated by good Survivors at all. It's populated by people who are dumb enough to go there, aka new players, cause it's insanely easy to rank up.

  • Chi
    Chi Member Posts: 781

    A lot of people find them better now. It just takes a bit of thinking now to use them.

  • Chi
    Chi Member Posts: 781

    A lot of people find them better now. It just takes a bit of thinking now to use them.

  • Judith
    Judith Member Posts: 819

    Yeah we all dumb and can't think. Legion is S tier.

  • lunaticlifter
    lunaticlifter Member Posts: 426

    Her add ons sure needs to be reworked, any noob with nurse even on console can do well just by using range or more blinks.. i'm talking as someone who got way too many hours with nurse.. for toucing her base power i think just like this:

    They will make weaker loops while adding a secondary objective? fine bring the nurse at spirit level while giving her 20 seconds cooldown power bar, 3-4-5 seconds fatigue ( based on 1 blink, 2 blink, 2 blink + hit) 110% movement speed, she will still be the strongest killer in the game

    They don't? Base Nurse is fine, she can still lose against good survivors or swf, who genrush the hell out of you, especially in some maps like corn or lery.

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647

    If it were a few months ago I'd agree with you but it's not.. bhvr made it more difficult to rank up thus the lesser competent survivors are not wearing red anymore so not all killers are viable at rank 1...

  • ReneAensland
    ReneAensland Member Posts: 838
  • lunaticlifter
    lunaticlifter Member Posts: 426

    @ReneAensland trust me, unless it's a 10 hours nurse, omegablinks, will make a decent/bad nurse looks good even on console.. we know about the fps issues, but since the latest pacht, more nurses are coming out on ps4, most of them running range add ons, even only the yellow one wich i consider yet op.

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647

    Nah ... I dont feel you have too much experience on console.... I've only ever played DBD on ps4 I've invested well over a thousand hours into the game and been playing few months before pig dropped.... I've only ever seen 1 nurse that was somewhat competent... since the optimization is still bad for the killers nurse is hit harder because of how shes intended to be played... she cant turn like she can on PC during blink, the fps just gives you headaches while playing her,

    Shes prettymuch nonexistent... the only nurses I ever see are just doing dailies

  • KaoMinerva
    KaoMinerva Member Posts: 451

    Yeah but let console players tell it, Nurse is stomping. I play nurse on console too. She doesn't stomp lol. Survivors are just way way worse and actually will try to loop her.


    Loop a nurse, yes lol

  • Micheal_Myers
    Micheal_Myers Member Posts: 1,147


    Uh... someone didn't watch the Q&A...


    I believe they were talking about Freddy's addons or Something about buffing leatherface or tweaking Addons of different Killers...


    And they said Nurse is one that was going to get an addon or 2 Tweaked.


    They also said Some killers need an ultra rare addon. So... Tweaking doesn't mean Nerfing, it doesn't mean Buffing.


    Just calm down and be patient. You don't have to be toxic towards the Devs because you don't like something. Heck Every Freddy Main WANTS Freddy's rework. Myers? He's fine. The Pig I understand the Frustration.


    But, you can't just blame every little change on the Devs. Some of the community wanted those changes and you are now being toxic about it.


    I get it "Ghostface Weak"

    "Pig Weak"

    "This and This Nerfed"


    Like we all get it. we hate certain things in the game but this post seems overly Toxic and doesn't provide them any feedback to get better.


    Like, we all know somethings are an issue. Just try to be calm and actually explain things you want to get changed for the better in constructive feedback, instead of blaming the Devs for most changes that the Community wanted.

  • KaoMinerva
    KaoMinerva Member Posts: 451

    This type of logic is why these devs are so out of control. We've been patient bro. We've bought all this dlc and glaring issues are still present! 4 or 5 killers can stand a chance at red ranks despite there being 15 killers! That's an issue bro.

  • Nick
    Nick Member Posts: 1,239

    They have to change or remove the add ons. But DONT(!!!!!!!!!!) touch her base power. Mathieu said "Not all killers are supposed to be strong, but they have to be fun" (#########). Atleast give us 1 viable killer, like Nurse.

  • Ticoz
    Ticoz Member Posts: 20

    Freddy is literally getting buffed...

  • gantes
    gantes Member Posts: 1,611

    Wraith's changes literally made him MORE viable.

    He's not viable at rank 1? He can be with add-ons which is better than most killers.

    And complaining about new Legion is definitely not valid. Wow, you have to work for your chases now and you still pip for free even if you kill only one person. I feel so bad for you.

    If you want to complain about Legion or Plague not being fun to play, that's highly subjective, and in Plague's case I tend to agree. But neither of them are weaker than most of the other M1 killers.

  • KaoMinerva
    KaoMinerva Member Posts: 451

    Dude, they literally NERFED legion in every single way and you're going to just ignore that? You don't understand WHY nurse & Billy are the best killers. Let me say it for you slowly...


    THEY... DO NOT.... NEED... ADD ON TO STOMP!!!!!!


    Saying that a killer is good because add on isn't s good argument. Yes, Wraith can stomp, but against elite survivors, even with the best add on, he's fodder. Billy & Nurse can stomp ELITE survivors without add on... Easily!

  • Pike_Trickfoot
    Pike_Trickfoot Member Posts: 437

    I'm ranking just fine with legion. Do I use the power? Not really. Doesn't mean I can't play around it and still do well. Does it take longer with a non-viable killer? Yes. Is it frustrating? Yes. But I'll be damned if I'm forced to play something that isn't even remotely fun for me (Billy is not. I want to bash my head against the wall when I play him). Just put in the work and develope a play style.

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    Can you stop being pessimistic and instead of blaming devs give some arguments and feedback why nurse shouldn't be nerfed?

    I'll take this post as a bait

  • lunaticlifter
    lunaticlifter Member Posts: 426

    @Bravo0413 lol i have hundred of hours with nurse on console, she's the first killer i played when i downloaded the game about almost 1 years ago.. when i sucked ass with nurse, those add ons made me feel like a god... once i prestiged her, and wasn't be able to use add ons, the difference was noticable... went from 3-4 k average for game at red ranks to an average of 0-2k .. i re-learned her. You can check my account on youtube lunaticlifter then come here and tell me she is not viable on console again.. inconsistent, yes because of the limitations with console, still god tier if the fps are decent.

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647

    I dont need to watch someone who is prettymuch speaking nonsense..... like 90% of the ps4 population for DBD knows that the optimization sucks and hinders the nurse to borderline unplayable... the blink range are not going to fix the optimization of the game......

    I never said that she wasnt viable..... you must thinking of someone else..... nonexistent yes its extremely rare to come by a nurse on ps4 because optimization still sucks.... has it improved yes but it still sucks....

  • lunaticlifter
    lunaticlifter Member Posts: 426

    @Bravo0413 wow so if everyone say god exist i should take that as an absolute truth? bruh, i have too much experience with her so i know what i'm talking about. I agree she is inconsistent ,some games you stomp other you just can't play properly, maps, slow turning, fps drops, mental focus, but the optimization actually improved her, and we are still not reaching 50-60 fps, unless in kyf.. only because you suck with her or most of the people in the community don't want to put time to improve, doesn't mean she is unplayable on console...higher skill cap less rewarding than pc of course. I found other good nurses on ps4 too recently, unless the one who are using omegablinks(i can't tell if they are good or not by using crutch add ons) and yes, omegalinks make it everything easier, faster movement speed and charge, fps drops less annoying, less time for survivor to react or juke, insane map control etc... But you know in 2019 some people still don't know how to play against nurse also on pc, still try to loops, without losing los or mindgame.

  • Sentry
    Sentry Member Posts: 124

    @FeelsVeryBadMan

    Sorry for pointing u out, but your very wrong look at pig main stream ardetha who has stopped playing since the change to her power.

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647

    Okay lol you're the only person that I know of that says nurse is fine on ps4..... inconsistent? No.... PC shows nurse is consistent in killing (yes playing on controller is quite different then M&K but Marth88 used a controller when playing nurse and hes arguably the best in the game) and just because you take that character and put it on a different doesnt mean the character becomes inconsistent... the optimization which hinders the gameplay.... if it wasnt the optimization that hinders the actual gameplay I'm sure plenty of players would be telling console player to git gud.... theres plenty of more threads floating around stating the exact samething..... not just using nurse but the lag spikes when doc uses his power, the fps drop when spirit comes out of phasewalk on certain maps.... and the devs recognize this as well and have stated that it's a problem.... theres deff a reason why nurse is sitting at the lowest kill percentage and least played killer ps4 dude....

  • gantes
    gantes Member Posts: 1,611

    And Nurse is also overpowered with add-ons.

    You were complaining about the Wraith changes, but they were for the better, as he was unviable even with add-ons before.

    And you defending the abomination that was old Legion invalidates your other points. They're fine now.

  • FeelsVeryBadMan
    FeelsVeryBadMan Member Posts: 197

    I'm not saying that the nerfs were deserved. They weren't and nobody asked for them, but it's not like she's unplayable.

  • lunaticlifter
    lunaticlifter Member Posts: 426

    @Bravo0413 i never said she is fine, just inconsistent because of the fps drops, and especially in some maps, where you need faster reaction, you just can't because of the sensitvitiy.. she is fine, when the fps are good. Unlucky on console fps are not always good. That's it. lowest killer ratio you know because she's harder, and she is fps and map dependent, That's it.

  • miaasma
    miaasma Member Posts: 911

    nurse is nonsense but anyone complaining about the changes to legion has a banana boat understanding of this game so i guess that contextualizes the rest of the thread

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807

    Banana boat sounds delicious so I'ma assume that means your claiming anyone complaining about the legion changes is a genius in your eyes.

  • miaasma
    miaasma Member Posts: 911

    you can assume that if it helps you sleep (or play nurse) at night

  • premiumRICE
    premiumRICE Member Posts: 798

    Attention ######### thread.

  • xChrisx
    xChrisx Member Posts: 917

    She deserve a power rework.

  • Micheal_Myers
    Micheal_Myers Member Posts: 1,147

    You mostly complained about the Nurse "Nerf" that might not even be a nerf. And I explained that in their Q&A they didn't specify if it was a nerf or a buff. Because who knows it could be both.


    The devs could release anything at this point after the Ghostface Disaster lol.


    So I said be patient and see what happens.

  • BadMrFrosty
    BadMrFrosty Member Posts: 1,100

    The last time they touched a killer and it resulted in a net gain was Spirit. You'll have to forgive most of the community for shitting on the spot whenever they mention "looking at killers." The burned hand teaches.

  • KaoMinerva
    KaoMinerva Member Posts: 451

    Survivors just want her loopable

  • MasterUff
    MasterUff Member Posts: 78

    They nerfed my pinky finger. its partially numb. Hope they will fix it.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,559

    Dead by Daylight Devs- Were planning on looking at and tweeking some addons for multiple killers

    Dead by daylight community- OMG EVERYONE!!! THEYRE GONNA NERF NURSE!!! WHY DONT THE DEVS EVER LISTEN TO US!!!


    seriously people, you want devs to listen to you while at the same time NOT watching the Q&A and blowing up over a rumor of something that was NOT said.

  • KaoMinerva
    KaoMinerva Member Posts: 451

    The issue is they don't listen. They haven't since Spirit PTB

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110
  • KaoMinerva
    KaoMinerva Member Posts: 451

    It shouldn't have been in the game in the first place. They used it to cash grab Ash

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433
  • Horus
    Horus Member Posts: 850

    Keep this thread up at the top to remind devs on what NOT to do

  • KaoMinerva
    KaoMinerva Member Posts: 451

    I don't trust them to even do that without a shadownerf or something

  • OMagic_ManO
    OMagic_ManO Member Posts: 3,278

    They even said Pig is not RNG, there are keys.

  • KaoMinerva
    KaoMinerva Member Posts: 451
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