HOW TO COUNTER B&C
If killer has B&C, Infectious Fright, Iron Maiden and M&A?Don't you think it's a meta combination?
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calm spirit and quiet those can counter all of those
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Killer is giving up a lot of perk slots just to get BBQ to work. It's fine.
If you are really scared pack Calm Spirit.
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Get within the bbq range
Get in a locker
Hide behind a gen
Use distortion
Those are the 4 ways to counter bbq from what I can remember.
Or 5, don't be so immersed and hide all game, even if they find you, so what?
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Calm spirit doesn't counter most of those. Monitor & Abuse is a fov and TR altering perk. BBQ is aura reading, Iron Maiden does make you scream, but it also gives a visual indicator. You're only really hard countering Infectious Fright.
Quick and Quiet legit does nothing for any of this.
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Dude, if the killer is taking ALL those perks just to make ONE perk work, I'd laugh. That's not so much "meta" as it is a joke build.
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Calm spirit, sitting inside the terror radius when they pick up, Monitor is simply looking around, Iron maiden get into a different locker and cyberbully(1) the killer every-time they come back
CyberBully(1)-Waste ones time by doing something
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No to make one perk work, to kill us. You can only hide behind a gen against these perks
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Iron Maiden only works once you come out of the locker, not when you go into one. Thus, you can wait until the killer is chasing someone else before you come out of the locker.
You can also be away when the survivor gets downed and only approach when they're getting hooked.
Keep in mind, however, there is no strategy that works 100% of the time.
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The survivor aura is a different shade of red. You're actually brighter than the gen. The other perks give sound and location indicators which are different looking effects that have no chance of blending with gens. Infectious fright gives a full body silhouette for instance.
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You'd have to be a hyper efficient killer to make optimal use of B&C + Iron Maiden. Sure, you could see the scream notification, but unless you have superior mobility, the Exposed timer will have run out or the survivor will have ran away.
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Note that in his example Killer has Infectious Fright and M&A so you can't get within BBQ Range, the M&A also makes the terror radius a lot larger when the survivor goes down. And also Iron Maiden is to screw you when you get out of the locker.
Calm Spirit removes visual indicators of screams, so you won't be seen by Iron Maiden even if you get the Exposure Debuff.
That sort of doesn't counter it now, does it? Because it made you waste your time in the locker instead of doing anything productive. Killer perk's purpose has been served.
Overall this build is not strong that strong and will never be meta. It's good at locating survivors but if you're going up against seasoned loopers it does you little good.
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I run calm spirit so lockers counter it for me.
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How the locker mechanic works? Im using it to counter bbq and chili but I dont understand how entering the locker while running or walking affects it.
i know i have to be inside before the hook goes in, but entering in a locker while running gives the killer a notification?
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You can use distortion but the tokens do get eaten up really fast. Forget it if they have BBQ, Nurses, or they’re Freddy. If you want to do some locker plays and you suspect Iron Maiden or just want to check, get into a locker when someone is in chase to see if it’s active. Otherwise you have to move within range of BBQ, try to hide behind a gen (rarely works thanks to your aura being a different shade of red) or try your luck with the lockers. I rarely see anyone besides Legion using Maiden.
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@premiumRICE yes, quick jumps into a locker give the killer a sound notification as if you'd quick vaulted, unless you have quick n quiet. You have to ease it open, but even if the killer is near with good headphones he can hear the locker squeak open.
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You could also run in one direction for 4 seconds then double back with Urban Evasion if the killer is far enough away you've bought yourself some time if he is following scratch marks.
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Bbq only activate from a hook meaning you don't need to be within TR for Infectious Fright, also M&A would actually make InF worst since you have a smaller TR. Run calm spirit and you will counter InF and if BBQ still gives you problems (despite its plethora of counters) run distortion.
The build you listed above is weak and can easily be countered.
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If it isn't Billy you can bait going to one direction and then going the other direction.
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Just assume all killers have BBQ. If someone gets hooked, I will run one direction for a few seconds, mostly towards a locker and stopping then backtrack away. If they have BBQ, they get there quick enough to see my track marks and open the locker. Now I know and I'll stick close to the killer.
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You should always assume killers have bbq and confide in lockers. Iron maiden has a short duration, and if you can hide quickly enough it won't matter. Distortion is always an option, though I find it to be a waste of a perk slot. You can rush in range of the killer to avoid bbq as well, that way you avoid being revealed, and iron maiden. I find iron maiden to be most common in Huntress players as well, and the odds of other killers having it aren't high in comparison to them using that perk slot for something else. You can also still try to utilize gen aura to the best of your ability, or bring calm spirit. But once again, I see it as more worth it to run other perks, and deal with the killer's as you go. I don't really see this build as being an issue or common in the future.
Killers would waste too many perk slots if they ran that, so I wouldn't consider it a "meta" build, otherwise the player base would have already discovered this and you wouldn't see so many people running bbq, ruin, nurses, noed, and the such. \
PS: As others are saying, baiting bbq and switching directions is an option too, and for me it works 80% of the time.
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Not exactly :
=> Infectious fright work only if you down a survivor and you are in the radius of the killer. If you cumulate it you will be out of 40m (which can be troublesome yes but as i don't know a lot of people who will slug unless end of the game) ... Also without mistake it can be counter by calm spirit (need to be tested).
=> BBQ : can be counter by range, gen and you can use it against the killer.
=> Iron maiden : relly on locker and limited in range and time : not much a problem.
=> Monitor and abuse : not much a trouble.
Also with a build like that you will have quite some trouble ... Remember the three basis of survival : gen rush , loop and stealth. Stealth won't be much a trouble if you don't fail the first stealth, loop won't be a problem and gen rush either at some point.
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