Calling All Shapes, Cannibals, and Pigs!

Pig---Amanda's Secret is useless and has an unnecessary drawback of not seeing Jigsaw Boxes. It stops you from tunneling Survivors searching Boxes but then tells you where they are when they're done which defeats the purpose of not tunneling them.

Combat Straps is redundant since they increased her speed on that so the add-on isn't needed at all.

Pig's roar makes her Ambush almost unusable, when you start charging her power she roars and everyone starts running before you're finished charging so when you actually Ambush they're already gone making any hits with it luck based. I don't use her Ambush, I sneak up to Survivors and then stand back up, because it's stealthy, like she's supposed to be.

What I love about Pig is that she's sneaky, she can play with Survivors, and she can juggle them. I can sneak right up to them and just grab them off the Gen, I can slug one, put a trap on another and then go back and chase the one I slugged. If the match goes the way I want it to they're at my mercy and like Amanda I don't use my traps with fairness in mind.

If you're starting out Pig but you've played the game for a while I will say practice with your Ambush now at loops, that's what everyone else does with her useless ability. When you Crouch they can't hear you and when you stand back up you retain that ability for a few seconds. Her best add-ons are the Timer, the Gears, and the extra Boxes. Don't use the extra skill check add-ons unless you're doing an Impossible Skill check build because more skill checks mean they get those traps off faster.

1) What issues do you have with your main's power?

chainsaw movement speed and the movement speed while charging up.

2) Which of your mains' add-ons do you think have unnecessary weaknesses, limitations, or underwhelming effects for their rarity?

award winning chili. barely noticeable effect for a significant downside.

3) Which add-ons do you think aren't worth considering using even when first learning/leveling your main?

chain add ons , speed limiter, sound reducers, and chili.

4) What would you consider to be the least fun aspect of playing as and against your main? (this can include perk/add-on loadouts, glitches, etc.)

playing on a map with a ton of safe pallets and windows like lerys. and against well I've never played against another bubba but some have said hook camping isn't fun to encounter.

5) What would you consider to be the most fun aspect of playing as and against your main?

landing the chainsaw, downing multiple people, and downing people as they are vaulting a window/pallet. and against I'm not sure perhaps encountering a bad leatherface.

@PigMainBigBrain It’s just mostly that the duration, stalking movement speed, mirrors and tombstones aren’t useful in a normal match and especially if going for competitive ranking. Duration ones sound good but they just make everyone go immersed for longer especially on cornfield/LOS blocked maps. They also require more evil the longer the duration (hair bow is the only one I used early on)

The tombstones require a lot of stalking (if paired with fragrant you need to completely drain approx 2 survivors) plus tombstone piece rips you out of ew3 immediately on a kill meaning it’s likely you’ll get 2 kills on average with this then be stuck in tier 2 (mostly you drain 1 full survivor for 1 kill but doesn’t count who you drain to tier 2) As Judith mentioned above this means without a gen stall build they’ll be done before you even hit it and probably still even if you do stall at higher ranks.

Stalking movement speed is useless because most times you can stalk without them realising at a distance OR they’ll try hiding at a loop/behind a pallet, stalking movement speed means you’ll follow them...as if in a chase...slightly faster. There are just better addons.

Mirrors are mostly a meme build. The slow movement speed in tier 1 and reduced lunge means it’s just not useful on a normal map. (I did have fun with it once on auto haven but I killed one...it was that large of a map I had no pressure despite the 32m aura view), there’s a good reason people only use it on lery’s and sometimes the game, you need insane LOS blockers for it to be mildly useful. For vanity it could be viable on a large map for 16m aura reading, if they removed the unnecessary speed decrease, might make it more useful but is that a crime considering it’s a purple rarity item? Wraith has aura reading addons while cloaked for the same rarity without limitation at 12m, I don’t see why this couldn’t be changed especially when trading ew3 for it. Could make matches more fun but the addon still useful in a normal match.

The most valuable addons for a Mikey are the stalking speed/rate of evil gain (such as J Myers memorial, memorial flowers) because they give you control over your tiers and dead rabbit (reduces TR in tier 2, but increases tier 3) I’d really love to see something that does this, most say they love jumpscare Mikey but he’s not super viable (addons as above) and you need ew3 if you want to create pressure due to time lost in tier 1, especially if trying to rank. If we had more addons for him that reduced TR like dead rabbit or maybe an ultra rare that removes tier 2 red stain, that would be amazing.

Sorry for the long reply, I guess it’s just that I’ve always kind of noticed how limited I am with addon choice. With any other killer I can use up to 3 sets of addons (and use their ultra rare in a normal match) , with Mikey it’s use normal addons or become a meme or get gen rushed while stalking the whole match but be able to kill people, maybe.

past Shape Main here:

I don't have a personal problem with his power, rather his Addons. Many of his addons have unnecessary downsides or are completely useless.

The Jewerly Addons are useless, Boyfriends Memo is only good on Peek a Boo Myers.

Vanity Mirror has this unnecessary movement speed debuff with a ######### Aura Range, just take Scratched Mirror instead, it's 100 times better. I don't really like the other Aura Addons besides the Mirror Shard Addon which gives 5 second wallhack in Tier 2 when stalking someone. The other 2 are stupid. I don't really like any Tier 3 duration addon beside the Hair Bow. The yellow and brown one have the same stalking requirements as the green one but the green one gives 30 seconds extra Tier 3. The purple one has more stalk requirement and gives 40 seconds which isn't that great. I know the stalking requirements are only noticeable on the first time stalking from Tier 2 to Tier 3 and after that you have your regular 5 second stalk.

I normally run both Memorial Addons but I lack on them so I use Hair Bow with Mirror Shard to get that Aura reading on top of that longer stalk to have some side effect.

Okay that’s pretty normal/is a given so I thought you meant something else. Sorry 😔

That’s actually an interesting build considering most think you need purely an anti loop/M1 build (but bamboozle, BBQ and ruin I expected, nurses was the interesting choice)

Hmm I’ve tried nurses but not for me, currently running discordance, BBQ, M&A and H:DH (usually play mid/purple ranks so don’t have to worry about ruin and can have fun with my build, I know if I want to get competitive I’d have to get meta but nope. I should try ranking with discordance, smart survivors tend to figure it out, dumb survivors fail to it, but over confident survivors think they can rush it before I get there with tier 3... )

Yours is a solid build, nurses was just a surprise, it used to be very meta but now with the non healing trend/DH/MoM/adrenaline seems it’s not as useful?

Honestly I know the feeling, I used to actually love dying light because it was the best I had early on, then I moved to overcharge and nurses, then thanatophobia and H:DH and currently discordance, I don’t know what it is about these perks but I’ve gone through phases of absolutely loving them, even if they aren’t regarded as “top tier/meta” perks. Definitely the best way to do it, as you’ve done by finding what works for you.

I’m not a fan of spirit fury/enduring belief that it’s “required” on most killers. Maybe it’s a constant play in red ranks thing but I like using different perks and wasting 2 on pallets...doesn’t sound like it meshes well with my play style, I prefer mindgames and forcing pallets, getting hit on purpose is the least of my priorities. I prefer tracking/aura/gen perks overall (nurses, whispers, surveillance, bbq, discordance etc) brute force perks have never appealed to me personally even though many suggest brutal strength, spirit fury/enduring on Myers.

I love to play the cannibal so here is my take.

1.The issue is how useful the power is over Billy. You slow down significantly when using it that almost any way to look at it Billy has it better, besides camping. So to optimally use it you want to trick survivors to go into the basement or hook.

2.Pretty much all addons are garbage except charge time. Cooldown can be alright. Noise is useless. Speed increases does little and significantly increases charge time. Chili addons are broken and does nothing. Longbar does little to help. The chains are ok but are not really worth it. So your variety it extremely limited.

3.Only consider charge time tbh.

4.The least fun aspect as Leatherface is when you become an m1 killer and forget you have a chainsaw. The lest fun aspect against is when he camps the basement and you either die trying or your team dies trying to save.

5.The most fun thing is either when you walk way from hook just enough to make survivors think its save to unhook then come right back and ruin their day, or when you forget camping and run PWYF. This perk combos really well with your 1 hit power if you can gain the stacks you become an instadown machine. The most fun thing as survivor would be looping a helpless Leatherface into oblivion.