Who can apply pressure with ease after nurse?
In your opinion
P.S. No addons applied
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Billy>Hag>Spirit
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I have an easy time as Freddy.
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Whoever you play the most, since you would know them inside and out.
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To me its more like Hag > Billy. Cause the reason why Nurse benefits when everyone being injured is because she ignore every defense and Hag kind of does the same partly.
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I'd definitely flip them if Hag had a Dried Cicada add-on.
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Depends a lot on the Map. On some maps its billy by a mile, on some Spirt is way better.
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Hag>>>>>>Nurse>>>>>>>>>Billy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spirit.
Hag has much better pressure than Nurse (@ me if you want to discuss) and it's rather obvious. Billy has decent pressure to, but not as much, and Spirit has a lot less pressure but better chasing than Nurse to compensate.
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And before you say she can only apply pressure with her range addons, that's not true, she has enough room to apply pressure at base.
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Spirit is dead against iron will which is a meta perk by the way
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To the people placing Hag over Hillbilly...
What are you guys smoking and where can I get some?
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Have you seen a good hag?
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Never met one
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@Slayer Well I rarely run into good Hag players but I know they exist. Most of my experiences with Hag are with her trapping the hooked survivor five times and still camping. Saying that you never met a good Spirit is like me saying I never met a good Hag. Just because my experiences are newbie players doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely strong if a good player is playing them.
A godly like Spirit isn’t exactly dead in the water to Iron Will. They can still track especially if they have Stridor then Iron Will is pretty useless.
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@Poweas I wouldn’t say Hag is MUCH better than Nurse at pressure. I’d agree that Hag can pressure the map more than any other killer due to her ability to teleport all across the map, but she isn’t significantly better than Nurse.
Pressure wise: Hag is best with Nurse VERY close behind, then Billy, and then Spirit. No other killer has good map pressure these are basically the only four killers that can pressure all parts of the map. You could argue Huntress due to a ranged attack but it is a guesstimate on where the hatchet will land and she is slow as hell so you aren’t getting across the map anytime soon.
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@MegMain98 I think Freddy will be up there soon. :D
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@TreemanXD By the way they were explaining the rework I’d say Freddy is going to be a pretty solid killer with great map pressure. Teleporting to generators is insane especially with BBQ. It’s surely going to be on a cooldown though and we’ve yet to see how long it is :/
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@MegMain98 I hope the cooldown isn’t too long, I imagine the ghostface perk that blocks gens will be godly on him paired with bbq.
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have you seen a good billy?
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Probably Billy and Huntress (if played optimally).
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Billy is loopable . And with no addons he cant do much no matter how good he is. Hag is more about skill and strategy.
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you're both wrong lol
billy can curve at loops
you've never seen a good billy apparently
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@miaasma Billy is a great killer but he’s just extremely loopable. He’s not different than any other killer that can’t do anything about being looped. Survivors can make his chainsaw useless so he is resorted to doing an M1 attack. Pallet looping and a bunch of windows makes Billy about as useful as Leatherface.
Not saying someone who is good at Billy can’t curve at loops and stop looping, Battleguy is a good example of a really good Billy player. It’s just not as easy as a killer like Nurse, Spirit, or Hag. Billy is A LOT stronger in an open field but if you get a map like Lery’s, The Game, or basically any map with a lot of debris then you are gonna have a tough time unless you have turning add-ons.
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@BloodMoneyMerc lol, you must be unexperienced if you haven't faced a good Hag yet XDDDDD she leaves Billy for dead.
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@Poweas To a lot of players the second spot on the tier list is up for debate. I think it’s obviously Spirit but I wouldn’t really argue with somebody who puts Billy there.
At base, I’d say Sprit and Hag are slightly better than Billy, but at their absolute strongest Billy is no match for Spirit OR Hag. Their strongest add-ons easily destroy anything Billy can do.
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@MegMain98 even their bases are better than a Billy with addons. It's actually insane. I wouldn't be surprised if Hag gets a slight nerf and Spirit gets a slight nerf.
Obviously, they shouldn't since they're amazing. But they might?
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@Poweas If Nurse is still SUPER strong two years later I don’t see why they’d nerf Spirit and Hag. We need strong killers.
I don’t even know what they could do to nerf those two. I honestly believe those two are pretty safe since they are very popular (especially Spirit) and it would cause an uproar. There are more people that would complain than would be happy. Even a lot of survivor mains know they shouldn’t be nerf.
Only thing I’d nerf is Prayer Beads.
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@MegMain98 yeah to be fair, if they reverted Hags changes, she was still top tier, just more difficult to play. Spirit also would not be taken lightly, I'd leave in a heartbeat.
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good billies can account for that pretty easily
again i'm not trying to be condescending but i'm not sure you guys have really watched good billies in practice
he's only loopable to a degree, after which point a good billy will curve you. he's much more punishing at loops than m1 killers
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The order goes Nurse>Billy>Spirit>Hag instant mobility creates massive map pressure. Only problem with hag is her kit relies on survivors being either stupid or not being stealthy.
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i promise it does
even good survivors can acknowledge a scary billy and even an experienced survivor can have a hard time gauging how greedy is too greedy
i've seen very good survivors get curved at normal loops by some of the best billies around. give billy his due, he's much less loopable than m1 killers
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Took the words out of my mouth lol. Literally most of red ranks is matches against a fairly good Billy. You catch a hag in red ranks you best expect every survivor about to exploit the crap out of her weaknesses.
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Just Billy, Spirit and Hag. None of the other killer can reliably apply pressure which is part of why the rest aren't viable.
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What exactly you mean by bugged sounds bro?
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@Slayer Sounds were bugged since the Legion patch. Sound occlusion and not being able to hear people right in front of you really made Spirit unreliable because she heavily relies on sound to be good.
It’s just the fact that you could BARELY hear people who were right in front of you and they did not have Iron Will. If a survivor was behind a wall you couldn’t hear them at ALL if you were on the other side of the wall, same with generators.
I’m pretty sure they fixed those issues though.
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Its not really that . Curving with no addons is not viable
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Ah yes. It seems like sounds are good now . But it may be only in kyf.
Also music seems to be more quiet now which is good for killers
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@Slayer I like the music being quieter on the killer side and the fact that there is no ambient music while carrying a survivor (I think that is a bug though). Really I don’t have to worry about chase music that often because I do main Spirit and most of my downs come from phase walking so I rarely hear chase music for a long period of time unless it’s one of those nights I just play really boosted.
On the survivor side though I do think the music shouldn’t have been toned down. Music should be louder for survivors than killers. Killers need to the music to be a little quiet but survivors do not.
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Footsteps in general or Billy in particular seems to be pretty loud as well
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