[CONSOLE] Viable Killers At High Ranks 5-1
Is Doctor seriously the only killer worth using at high ranks? He's the only one I can consistently get 4ks and 2 pips with at those ranks due to the fact that all you have to do is 3 gen strat until the survivors all just give up. Any other killer just gets embarrassed. The only thing slightly good is Leatherfacecamp. But that only works against SWF since they hook rush.
Anyone else having this issue or have any suggestions for builds with other killers?
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Doc is trash at high ranks and only works against inexperienced survivors whose true rank would be way lower than their actual one.
But luckily the emblem system allows anyone to climb into the high ranks and thus gives chance for some refreshing noob games (at least on pc)
The only true viable killer is nurse, if you can't play her on console go to Billy because huntress is a chore on console probably^^
Oh and leather face is even worse than doc, such strategies only work if survivors throw themselves at the hook which is not the case in high rank anymore (maybe it still is on console, idk)1 -
@Zixology If you truly believe what you just said, you may need to rethink how you play the game and get better. I'm not being rude, I assure you.
Those who use the 3 Gen strat on Doc are pure cancer. Learn to play correctly and win chases. Use Billy.
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Nurse Main here on PS4. Really, if you want to be viable, you’ll have to invest in her. Billy is a solid second choice.
My Nurse build is : BBQ, Make Your Choice, Nurse’s Calling, Ruin. Add on’s I use are Ataxic Resperation and Catatonic Boys Keepsake for the absolute maximum Blink Range.
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I love using Shadowborn though, it helps me with orientation after blinking.SovererignKing said:Nurse Main here on PS4. Really, if you want to be viable, you’ll have to invest in her. Billy is a solid second choice.
My Nurse build is : BBQ, Make Your Choice, Nurse’s Calling, Ruin. Add on’s I use are Ataxic Resperation and Catatonic Boys Keepsake for the absolute maximum Blink Range.0 -
@only1biggs said:
@Zixology If you truly believe what you just said, you may need to rethink how you play the game and get better. I'm not being rude, I assure you.Those who use the 3 Gen strat on Doc are pure cancer. Learn to play correctly and win chases. Use Billy.
"Play correctly" wow you survivors really know how ruin a game. The 3 gen strat is a strategy that is favorable when behind asking someone to play the loop game and telling them its the only way to play is incredibly unhealthy as it makes killers predictable and games easier for survivors. But that's what you want right.
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@Zarathos said:
@only1biggs said:
@Zixology If you truly believe what you just said, you may need to rethink how you play the game and get better. I'm not being rude, I assure you.Those who use the 3 Gen strat on Doc are pure cancer. Learn to play correctly and win chases. Use Billy.
"Play correctly" wow you survivors really know how ruin a game. The 3 gen strat is a strategy that is favorable when behind asking someone to play the loop game and telling them its the only way to play is incredibly unhealthy as it makes killers predictable and games easier for survivors. But that's what you want right.
I actually main killer and don't complain about everything or hold games hostage
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@Zarathos said:
@only1biggs said:
@Zixology If you truly believe what you just said, you may need to rethink how you play the game and get better. I'm not being rude, I assure you.Those who use the 3 Gen strat on Doc are pure cancer. Learn to play correctly and win chases. Use Billy.
"Play correctly" wow you survivors really know how ruin a game. The 3 gen strat is a strategy that is favorable when behind asking someone to play the loop game and telling them its the only way to play is incredibly unhealthy as it makes killers predictable and games easier for survivors. But that's what you want right.
Playing correctly = being bullied at the loops and letting the survivors win
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@Master said:
@Zarathos said:
@only1biggs said:
@Zixology If you truly believe what you just said, you may need to rethink how you play the game and get better. I'm not being rude, I assure you.Those who use the 3 Gen strat on Doc are pure cancer. Learn to play correctly and win chases. Use Billy.
"Play correctly" wow you survivors really know how ruin a game. The 3 gen strat is a strategy that is favorable when behind asking someone to play the loop game and telling them its the only way to play is incredibly unhealthy as it makes killers predictable and games easier for survivors. But that's what you want right.
Playing correctly = being bullied at the loops and letting the survivors win
playing correctly = not being mindless and just following the survivors. (certain tiles and loops can't really be mind gamed though)
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@only1biggs said:
@Master said:
@Zarathos said:
@only1biggs said:
@Zixology If you truly believe what you just said, you may need to rethink how you play the game and get better. I'm not being rude, I assure you.Those who use the 3 Gen strat on Doc are pure cancer. Learn to play correctly and win chases. Use Billy.
"Play correctly" wow you survivors really know how ruin a game. The 3 gen strat is a strategy that is favorable when behind asking someone to play the loop game and telling them its the only way to play is incredibly unhealthy as it makes killers predictable and games easier for survivors. But that's what you want right.
Playing correctly = being bullied at the loops and letting the survivors win
playing correctly = not being mindless and just following the survivors. (certain tiles and loops can't really be mind gamed though)
"certain" ..... not sure whether to laugh or cry
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@Master said:
@only1biggs said:
@Master said:
@Zarathos said:
@only1biggs said:
@Zixology If you truly believe what you just said, you may need to rethink how you play the game and get better. I'm not being rude, I assure you.Those who use the 3 Gen strat on Doc are pure cancer. Learn to play correctly and win chases. Use Billy.
"Play correctly" wow you survivors really know how ruin a game. The 3 gen strat is a strategy that is favorable when behind asking someone to play the loop game and telling them its the only way to play is incredibly unhealthy as it makes killers predictable and games easier for survivors. But that's what you want right.
Playing correctly = being bullied at the loops and letting the survivors win
playing correctly = not being mindless and just following the survivors. (certain tiles and loops can't really be mind gamed though)
"certain" ..... not sure whether to laugh or cry
A lot? That better for you?
Certain meaning "some not all", which is correct -.-
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@only1biggs said:
@Zixology If you truly believe what you just said, you may need to rethink how you play the game and get better. I'm not being rude, I assure you.Those who use the 3 Gen strat on Doc are pure cancer. Learn to play correctly and win chases. Use Billy.
I don't like playing Doc, I hate playing against him too. The only reason I use that strat is because it seems to be the only one viable. I would use billy. But it seems that there's a bug with billy in the 2.0 console update that myself and friends of mine have noticed where the chainsaw just sort of stops when you hit someone. No damage. Just comes to a complete halt. Even happened in corners and has never happened before. I used to enjoy billy at high ranks. But, until they fix this, I cannot.
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@SovererignKing said:
Nurse Main here on PS4. Really, if you want to be viable, you’ll have to invest in her. Billy is a solid second choice.My Nurse build is : BBQ, Make Your Choice, Nurse’s Calling, Ruin. Add on’s I use are Ataxic Resperation and Catatonic Boys Keepsake for the absolute maximum Blink Range.
I main Nurse on the PC version and try to use her when possible on console. I have her at P3 with all perks (except clown). But the framerate lag is just too much for me to handle when going against high ranking survivors.
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@Zixology said:
@only1biggs said:
@Zixology If you truly believe what you just said, you may need to rethink how you play the game and get better. I'm not being rude, I assure you.Those who use the 3 Gen strat on Doc are pure cancer. Learn to play correctly and win chases. Use Billy.
I don't like playing Doc, I hate playing against him too. The only reason I use that strat is because it seems to be the only one viable. I would use billy. But it seems that there's a bug with billy in the 2.0 console update that myself and friends of mine have noticed where the chainsaw just sort of stops when you hit someone. No damage. Just comes to a complete halt. Even happened in corners and has never happened before. I used to enjoy billy at high ranks. But, until they fix this, I cannot.
It's not the only viable strat. What are you talking about?
If you're referring to the false chainsaw hits, that happened before and does not happen that often. It's happened to me a few times, but is not enough to make me stop playing Billy or play cancer Doc LOL
Jesus
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@only1biggs said:
@Zixology said:
@only1biggs said:
@Zixology If you truly believe what you just said, you may need to rethink how you play the game and get better. I'm not being rude, I assure you.Those who use the 3 Gen strat on Doc are pure cancer. Learn to play correctly and win chases. Use Billy.
I don't like playing Doc, I hate playing against him too. The only reason I use that strat is because it seems to be the only one viable. I would use billy. But it seems that there's a bug with billy in the 2.0 console update that myself and friends of mine have noticed where the chainsaw just sort of stops when you hit someone. No damage. Just comes to a complete halt. Even happened in corners and has never happened before. I used to enjoy billy at high ranks. But, until they fix this, I cannot.
It's not the only viable strat. What are you talking about?
If you're referring to the false chainsaw hits, that happened before and does not happen that often. It's happened to me a few times, but is not enough to make me stop playing Billy or play cancer Doc LOL
Jesus
Myself and 2 of my friends are usually Billy mains. We stopped when this bug has started ruining all of our matches.
At Ranks 5-1, I have to use Doc. As much as I hate to admit it. You have to fight scummy plays with scum of your own. I can 4k literally every single match at Doc 3 gen. It never fails. It's more OP than anything those high ranking survivors can throw at me.
-Madness 3 counters flashlights.
-Unnerving Presence and Madness counters DS.
-Distressing, Unnerving, and Madness all counter SC, and just doing gens in general.
-Doc's existence counters hiding.
-Ruin counters BNP at the start of the game.I can't get the "Adept Clown" Trophy at these ranks. So I've already resorted to de-ranking myself. It's the only way.
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@Zixology said:
@only1biggs said:
@Zixology said:
@only1biggs said:
@Zixology If you truly believe what you just said, you may need to rethink how you play the game and get better. I'm not being rude, I assure you.Those who use the 3 Gen strat on Doc are pure cancer. Learn to play correctly and win chases. Use Billy.
I don't like playing Doc, I hate playing against him too. The only reason I use that strat is because it seems to be the only one viable. I would use billy. But it seems that there's a bug with billy in the 2.0 console update that myself and friends of mine have noticed where the chainsaw just sort of stops when you hit someone. No damage. Just comes to a complete halt. Even happened in corners and has never happened before. I used to enjoy billy at high ranks. But, until they fix this, I cannot.
It's not the only viable strat. What are you talking about?
If you're referring to the false chainsaw hits, that happened before and does not happen that often. It's happened to me a few times, but is not enough to make me stop playing Billy or play cancer Doc LOL
Jesus
Myself and 2 of my friends are usually Billy mains. We stopped when this bug has started ruining all of our matches.
At Ranks 5-1, I have to use Doc. As much as I hate to admit it. You have to fight scummy plays with scum of your own. I can 4k literally every single match at Doc 3 gen. It never fails. It's more OP than anything those high ranking survivors can throw at me.
-Madness 3 counters flashlights.
-Unnerving Presence and Madness counters DS.
-Distressing, Unnerving, and Madness all counter SC, and just doing gens in general.
-Doc's existence counters hiding.
-Ruin counters BNP at the start of the game.I can't get the "Adept Clown" Trophy at these ranks. So I've already resorted to de-ranking myself. It's the only way.
In all the "counters" you have listed, you literally did NOTHING. The game does it all for you. Well done. You must be amazing.
You are winning the Doc games because the people in the game are bored and want to leave.
Go back to Billy and get better.
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Myers and Pig are solid fun, but may not be as strong as Billy and Nurse. Huntress is viable but not as stone unless you’re expierienced. The problem with Nurse and Huntress is that they require accuracy, and with a controller that’s not too easy. I’d say Billy, Clown (When you get him) and maybe even Huntress is you put in the effort0
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More proof that Doc 3 gen is broken garbage that needs a nerf. You are admitting you hold games hostage until survivors just give up and let you kill them. That shouldn't be a thing anymore than having a super immersed survivor when hatch is open that absolutely refuses to show themselves. If a certain strat has potential to make a game last indefinitely then it needs to be fixed.
Also Nurse, Billy, and Huntress are entirely viable at high ranks. They take a lot of skill though, which judging by the fact you hold games hostage with Doc 3 gen suggests to me that you aren't to that level of killer. Yet you still are high rank. That says something too about the strat.
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According to the official dbd console tournament freddy is the most fitted killer for competitive play
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@only1biggs said:
@Zixology said:
@only1biggs said:
@Zixology said:
@only1biggs said:
@Zixology If you truly believe what you just said, you may need to rethink how you play the game and get better. I'm not being rude, I assure you.Those who use the 3 Gen strat on Doc are pure cancer. Learn to play correctly and win chases. Use Billy.
I don't like playing Doc, I hate playing against him too. The only reason I use that strat is because it seems to be the only one viable. I would use billy. But it seems that there's a bug with billy in the 2.0 console update that myself and friends of mine have noticed where the chainsaw just sort of stops when you hit someone. No damage. Just comes to a complete halt. Even happened in corners and has never happened before. I used to enjoy billy at high ranks. But, until they fix this, I cannot.
It's not the only viable strat. What are you talking about?
If you're referring to the false chainsaw hits, that happened before and does not happen that often. It's happened to me a few times, but is not enough to make me stop playing Billy or play cancer Doc LOL
Jesus
Myself and 2 of my friends are usually Billy mains. We stopped when this bug has started ruining all of our matches.
At Ranks 5-1, I have to use Doc. As much as I hate to admit it. You have to fight scummy plays with scum of your own. I can 4k literally every single match at Doc 3 gen. It never fails. It's more OP than anything those high ranking survivors can throw at me.
-Madness 3 counters flashlights.
-Unnerving Presence and Madness counters DS.
-Distressing, Unnerving, and Madness all counter SC, and just doing gens in general.
-Doc's existence counters hiding.
-Ruin counters BNP at the start of the game.I can't get the "Adept Clown" Trophy at these ranks. So I've already resorted to de-ranking myself. It's the only way.
In all the "counters" you have listed, you literally did NOTHING. The game does it all for you. Well done. You must be amazing.
You are winning the Doc games because the people in the game are bored and want to leave.
Go back to Billy and get better.
That's the exact point that I was making. Glad you finally understand. The only thing viable is broken mechanics.
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@thesuicidefox said:
More proof that Doc 3 gen is broken garbage that needs a nerf. You are admitting you hold games hostage until survivors just give up and let you kill them. That shouldn't be a thing anymore than having a super immersed survivor when hatch is open that absolutely refuses to show themselves. If a certain strat has potential to make a game last indefinitely then it needs to be fixed.Also Nurse, Billy, and Huntress are entirely viable at high ranks. They take a lot of skill though, which judging by the fact you hold games hostage with Doc 3 gen suggests to me that you aren't to that level of killer. Yet you still are high rank. That says something too about the strat.
Doc 3 gen is completely broken. I agree. It's terrible that that's the only thing that is viable at high ranks on console. We can agree on that.
But no, I'm not "holding the game hostage". The only real way for a killer to do that is to block the last survivor in a corner and not hit them (has happened to me before). I've been able to kill all 4 survivors without them giving up several times. But they don't give up EVERY match.I'm more than capable of reaching Rank 1 without Doc. I've done it many times. But once I hit around Rank 5, it's just a chore. After consecutive matches of 4 DS, Flashlight using, Sprint Burstdrealine Care Invisible Claudettes, you can't say that I wouldn't be annoyed.
Also, Please read the OP. As much as I love Nurse and Huntress on PC, they are not viable on console. And, if you read the previous comments, you would've seen that I mentioned the current Billy bug with his chainsaw. Otherwise, you'd be sure as hell that I'd be playing him.
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Lmao to Valhalla with thee!Dragonredking said:According to the official dbd console tournament freddy is the most fitted killer for competitive play
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Why in gods name are you letting him set up the strat. You need to spread out your gens I have had dozen of games where survivors 3 gen strated themselves because I as a killer was to threatening to be near. Someone has to risk their neck to get these gens if you leave 3 gens close by and not done you have screwed yourselves. Its no different then picking a survivor up off the ground and getting flash lighted you could have played around it if you risked searching for the potential threat.thesuicidefox said:More proof that Doc 3 gen is broken garbage that needs a nerf. You are admitting you hold games hostage until survivors just give up and let you kill them. That shouldn't be a thing anymore than having a super immersed survivor when hatch is open that absolutely refuses to show themselves. If a certain strat has potential to make a game last indefinitely then it needs to be fixed.
Also Nurse, Billy, and Huntress are entirely viable at high ranks. They take a lot of skill though, which judging by the fact you hold games hostage with Doc 3 gen suggests to me that you aren't to that level of killer. Yet you still are high rank. That says something too about the strat.
If i see a dangerous gen and someone's getting chased I get on it and risk my own ass to prevent the strat. No killer will willingly give up four gens to secure 3. Even then 3/2 survivors can get it done if they risk their own assess. Its a horror game anyone familiar with the noble sacrifice. Why not ask bill and find out what it means to put your ass on the line for the team.1 -
@Zixology said:
@only1biggs said:
@Zixology said:
@only1biggs said:
@Zixology said:
@only1biggs said:
@Zixology If you truly believe what you just said, you may need to rethink how you play the game and get better. I'm not being rude, I assure you.Those who use the 3 Gen strat on Doc are pure cancer. Learn to play correctly and win chases. Use Billy.
I don't like playing Doc, I hate playing against him too. The only reason I use that strat is because it seems to be the only one viable. I would use billy. But it seems that there's a bug with billy in the 2.0 console update that myself and friends of mine have noticed where the chainsaw just sort of stops when you hit someone. No damage. Just comes to a complete halt. Even happened in corners and has never happened before. I used to enjoy billy at high ranks. But, until they fix this, I cannot.
It's not the only viable strat. What are you talking about?
If you're referring to the false chainsaw hits, that happened before and does not happen that often. It's happened to me a few times, but is not enough to make me stop playing Billy or play cancer Doc LOL
Jesus
Myself and 2 of my friends are usually Billy mains. We stopped when this bug has started ruining all of our matches.
At Ranks 5-1, I have to use Doc. As much as I hate to admit it. You have to fight scummy plays with scum of your own. I can 4k literally every single match at Doc 3 gen. It never fails. It's more OP than anything those high ranking survivors can throw at me.
-Madness 3 counters flashlights.
-Unnerving Presence and Madness counters DS.
-Distressing, Unnerving, and Madness all counter SC, and just doing gens in general.
-Doc's existence counters hiding.
-Ruin counters BNP at the start of the game.I can't get the "Adept Clown" Trophy at these ranks. So I've already resorted to de-ranking myself. It's the only way.
In all the "counters" you have listed, you literally did NOTHING. The game does it all for you. Well done. You must be amazing.
You are winning the Doc games because the people in the game are bored and want to leave.
Go back to Billy and get better.
That's the exact point that I was making. Glad you finally understand. The only thing viable is broken mechanics.
You're an idiot
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Hag, Billy.2
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Reading this makes me laugh cry and vomit at once the fact that all killers aren’t rank 5-1 viable is an issue in its own rite. The survivors that are calling 3 gen strat cancer are cancer. Let’s put it this way every thing you bring to a rank 5-1 match is potentially viable (perks) you don’t have “power” that hinders you from a play style. And love how this one guy keeps using the term holding game hostage stop saying that stupid ######### if it were we’d all be banned, considering the pos survivors that don’t walk out the exit gate for 45-60 mins just to t-bag
imo bh needs to rework all killers so they are viable no matter what for high rank games especially considering we are paying real money for them, how does it make sense we pay money for something that is obsolete once we rank up. That is not right and possibly not legal. So you crybaby survivors stfu because you don’t have a power that hinders you in any way every perk you have is viable and because you have no speed reduction powers and missing skill checks don’t stun you for 3-4 seconds, and even when you get hit you get a speed boost instead of realistically it should most of the time slow you down at least. How many years are we going to deal with entitled crybabies controlling what the devs do if we stopped buying their content maybe they will stop catering to the survivor mains and make all killers high rank viable, I mean what’s the sense when the top 3 were free with the default download (on console anyway)
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Aww, did you get your feelings hurt over one singular game because you didn't 4k? Git gud kid, if you dont like the game then take a break or leave.
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there's not really any viable killers on console , this is due to horrific fps, garbage controls, 'aim assist' hitting everything but the survivor(once i swung through a survivor and hit the wall behind them) and blurry visuals.
basically survivors don't even need to loop on console as it is stupid easy to lose the killer due to the above reasons(you can literally lose a killer directly behind you)
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In the rank 5-1 range i find clown and spirit work well most of the time with the right setup. And as far as three gen strats, if the survivors did it to themselves, thats on them, however. If the killer actively camps the three gens with the closest proximity, i personally find that dumb and annoying.
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I'll ignore all the petty insults and go here:
Myers with Monitor and Abuse, Nurse's Calling, Barbecue and Chili and a free slot I learn help, with Hex: Devour Hope, sometimes I crush high ranks or even SWF, lots of times to be real, I'd run Boyfriend's Memo and Dead Rabbit for a stealth build, if EW1 is not working, hit EW2 and have a 4 meter Terror Radius. Crush squads and get yanks off gens and all.
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This thread got necroed guys. Please check dates.
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Nurse, Billy, Wraith, Spirit, Shape, Clown, Huntress, and Hag are all viable in red ranks
Trapper, Doctor, Legion, Plague, Cannibal are possible but a little harder.
Nightmare and Pig aren’t currently.
That’s how I feel based on playing them and winning/losing in higher ranks
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