Please consider adding Wake Up to the Hotfix before it gets worse
As it stands Wakeup is just a flat +15% buff to ALL speeds, making it one of the best perks in the game due to the bug from version 3. There's already a hotfix planned around the corner and I worry if fixing this bug doesn't happen soon, it'll soon spread further and further making games end even sooner.
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I didn't want to make a thread about it, but I wholeheartedly agree. That's very bad if it stays that way.
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I tried it out myself. It seriously affects all action, even the vault.
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Yes. Its being a flat 15% buff to gen repair speed is probably the worst part about it though.
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Are these bonuses active all game or just after the gates are powered?
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They're all game, it works even if the perk isn't lit up.
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It helps you do gens faster.
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Huh, so it's a Resilience that's almost twice as strong without needing to be Injured.
I find Resilience to be a tad on the weaker side in general, but this is nuts if all 4 run it.
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how does something like this even happen in the first place?
if im correct, this bug had not been present in the PTB, so what happened?
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Maybe some dev we don't know wanted to troll us. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Lol I imagine if you use this + Resilience the Killer will basically never be able to touch you if you are even remotely decent at vaulting loops.
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This isn’t what happens when the QA team is too small and there is too much to test on too little time, especially too little time to fix everything
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Lol, makes you wonder how anyone even discovered this bug. Who runs Wake Up?
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Spaghetti code is how. Its why every time the devs release an update it breaks a bunch of things that were previously functional. The game is a never ending bugfest because of it.
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Yeah I had this at base tier 3 on my Quentin yesterday and was healing, unhooking, doing totems in 3-5 seconds, doing gens as if I had prove thyself (without anyone else needing to be there) and it's active all game. It was completely overboard, ended up switching characters anyway. It's nice the perk felt more useful for once, but not like this.
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Issue that negatively affects killers, and buffs survivors, so wont be fixed anytime soon. Low priority.
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I have always run wake up. I still will but I do feel like I've suddenly have an unfair advantage of I'm using it now. It's no beuno. I hope they don't come out and say "if you've used wake up since the new update, you are banned" I don't play seriously anyway. Fix it queen
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If they can't fix Wake Up in time they should at least disable it until they work out the bug.
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do what they did with legion knife bugs, anyone who’s uses it faces bans
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This seems pretty well known too. I ran into a 3-Man SWF who all had this perk at tier 3. They failed spectacularly, but they T-bagged and did unsafe unhooks with BT all throughout the match. At this point I'm just reporting everyone who runs it for exploiting. Those who realize what this perk is doing should stop using it immediately or face the consequences.
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I knew there was something fucky about all these quick gens, vaults, and the like. Almost everyone that's survived me has been running Wake-Up. That's the perk that stands out in particular.
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With how close the doors spawn together on most maps, its a decent perk to run when the end game hits.
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That's so funny. Who knew Wake Up would finally become meta?
The Tinkerer 2 and infinite Legion mend bugs took too long to fix. Let's see how long this takes.
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Wow. I really hope this gets put into the hotfix. If they can’t fix it in time, then I hope the perk gets disabled or becomes a bannable offense.
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It's much worse that ghost face is still broke and just gets to get his exposed active while you staring at him in his f ing face. That's 2 times more broke
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it doesn't touch misc actions like drinking from a fountain or snapping out of it, and it doesn't seem to affect healing either, aside from unhooking
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I do hope they fix it. It is super Op right now, but banning for using it isn't any more feasible than when killers used the tinkerer perk or wraiths used sloppy butcher while they were broken. Hopefully, the hotfix comes sooner than those did.
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The sad thing about this is that this perk is even broken in this way. How spaghetti does a games code have to be to break a perk that wasn't even touched in this update. Its kind of worrying tbh.
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I....I mean....how? We're 3 years in. I'm just trying to conceptualize how Wake Up was altered by any updates. This is some next level spaghetti. I was wondering why so many teammates were running Wake Up. Perk needs to be locked until the bug is fixed. Of course, the act of locking the perk might cause Slippery Meat to pre-heat our ovens to 350.
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Does it stack with resilience? If so, gonna run wake up, resilience, prove thyself and no mither. Lol
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They should absolutely get banned for that. It's an obvious exploit and easily tracked, so they should be consistent with their policy.
If people got banned for abusing Tinkerer 2, then they should absolutely get banned for abusing Wake Up.
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Meh, the Sloppy Butcher bug was just annoying.
The Tinkerer 2 bug completely took away the TR for the whole match. That's cheating. I'm surprised if people didn't get in trouble for that.
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Using a perk that's absolutely ideal for EGC when working correctly is an obvious exploit? Also, if you think it's easily tracked, you have WAY too much faith in the development team's coding. Which is ironic considering that very coding is exactly why this problem arose.
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... absolutely ideal for EGC...? You're joking, right?
Well, I was under the assumption that they could. If they didn't ban people for obvious infractions, then I guess they can't.
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With the Legion mend exploit they banned anyone who used the broken add-ons when it became common knowledge that they are bugged. They can do the same here, players who haven't used Wake Up regularly before but start using it now in every game are clearly exploiting and should be banned. This is also what they did with Legion, where people who rarely played Legion but then started using Legion a lot and just so "happened" to use the broken add-ons got the banhammer
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"Oh whoops, using all forty of my Dirty Blade addons conveniently when it becomes known that it is bugged and gives me an unfair advantage. My bad BHVR. I didn't know, I just ended up loving the combination because it looked like it works so well!"
... Again, assuming BHVR can track perk use, sudden change in the pattern of a player's behavior should tip them off to intentional abuse. If it were me, I'd issue 3 day bans for 20% of the people abusing it, then 3 day bans for the next 20% once the first runs out, and so on and so forth.
I think you are overestimating how many people intentionally cheat in this game... and how many people "legitimately" decide to equip and "discover" the miracle of Wake Up. Like.. seriously? Isn't that a little too naive?
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while I agree not everyone’s a cheater...
if it was noed bugged and was on all match would you feel the same way?
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didn't they ban people for using double legion blades when that was a bug?
they have some sort of algorithm that tracks how often people used something before it became a known bug vs how often they used it afterwards, from what i can recall
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Slightly less so because NOED is
- A free perk available to everyone
- Commonly used by beginners
- Widely regarded as a powerful perk
This makes the use of NOED less suspicious than say an absolute hot trash rare perk like Wake Up or a strange combination or occurance like Tinkerer 2 or Dirty/Nasty Blade.
But... I mean if you go into game and have survivors dropping dead left and right, and you think to yourself "this is perfectly fine, I'll keep doing this" after your first game or two, then yeah, to the shadow realm you go.
They should definitely send a PSA just for the poor beginners that use it, unsure of what it's actually meant to do. But like hell you'll convince me that anyone is using Wake Up as intended right now.
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If u go into the game and knock gens out in 25 seconds u gonna tell me that’s not obvious too?
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i think they're saying it is obvious
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You make it sound like this is personal.
Hmmmmm.... :)
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I normally wouldn't say anything about this, but why is the OP being downvoted because they are asking the devs if they can fix a major exploit? Is that person just trying to prevent knowledge of the exploit from spreading or are they salty that their "advantage" is going to be removed?
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That possibility was there. I remember when the bug was around, and the devs dropped an in-game announcement informing people to not use the combination. They also stated why they didnt just disable the perk. The reason was, and I quote: "[...] this would require a game update."
They didnt disable it, because their spaghetti code didnt allow it.
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Now who's laughing! Wake up is meta now! In all seriousness let this thread die because devs most likely know I don't want to wake up tomorrow to seeing every survivor running wake up.
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I didn't even know how Wake Up was bugged until this post. I wouldn't be surprised if more Survivors start to run it, probably to make up for the loss of their precious MoM.
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Are you telling me that you honestly can't figure out why people would want to use Wake up after the end game collapse feature was added with the constant threads popping up on the forum about how hard it is to open the gates after killer closes the hatch? The level of arrogance behind that statement is mind boggling.
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One day they will make bug of No-Mither and somehow make it unable to put you downed or killed
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Not a single person got banned for using tinkerer, are you even here when that happened?
Legion addons were bannable because you can legitimately let the whole survivor team mend for 10+ minutes, and its back btw, yes its back, tried in KYF and it works
Survivor is the main playerbase, also why Ghostface is getting nerf despite all of us been saying, banning them will only increase my queue time
Clown exploit on infinite movement speed were not banned, people abusing infinite wasting my time for 20 minutes not banned, people staying on Exit Gates refusing to leave and just hides not banned etc
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