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Looping P3 Doctor for 5 gens in 5 minutes

Someissues
Someissues Member Posts: 1,604
edited July 2018 in General Discussions

Provided if he uses the flash-light this could extend way more/ for the bully
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI7mVVIAJs0

This is why Killers is unfun and frustrating at High ranked hencem any Derank

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  • OXY
    OXY Member Posts: 68
    edited July 2018

    Flashlight, DS and pallet looping the entire game. Such a great combination.

    I bet he complains when a killer camps him though.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Someissues said:
    Provided if he uses the flash-light this could extend way more/ for the bully
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI7mVVIAJs0

    This is why Killers is unfun and frustrating at High ranked hencem any Derank

    using DS too, disgusting

  • lasombra1979
    lasombra1979 Member Posts: 1,142

    Honestly, as a killer, you need to break away and stop getting pulled into it.

  • AshleyWB
    AshleyWB Member Posts: 4,061
    What if there was a perk where killets could flip the pallet towards the survivor and instantly down them.
  • only1biggs
    only1biggs Member Posts: 1,178

    Wow. Another dog ######### killer. Great.

  • OXY
    OXY Member Posts: 68

    @only1biggs said:

    @OXY said:
    Flashlight, DS and pallet looping the entire game. Such a great combination.

    I bet he complains when a killer camps him though.

    He didn't use his flashlight, he missed DS. What else is he supposed to do aside from looping? Give himself to the killer?

    Try and lose him by juking him? All he is doing is just running from pallet to pallet and not even making an effort to lose him but instead waste his time.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068
    edited July 2018

    @OXY said:

    @only1biggs said:

    @OXY said:

    @only1biggs said:

    @OXY said:
    Flashlight, DS and pallet looping the entire game. Such a great combination.

    I bet he complains when a killer camps him though.

    He didn't use his flashlight, he missed DS. What else is he supposed to do aside from looping? Give himself to the killer?

    Try and lose him by juking him? All he is doing is just running from pallet to pallet and not even making an effort to lose him but instead waste his time.

    Right and it worked...because the killer was bad and didn't go after someone else.

    It doesn't matter if it worked or not, it's making the game hell for the Killer. Losing him would've worked too. You're probably a survivor main and wouldn't understand anyways.

    Actually the point is the killer chose to continue to play poorly and made it unfun for themself. The killer could've easily chosen the smarter play and not gone after someone endlessly running them around. I don't ever remember the devs giving survivors the ability to control where the killer moves on the map or when they use their abilities.

    When the killer decides to tunnel or camp it's the killers choice, the survivors don't control them and make them do it remotely. The same is true for the killer in the video, they chose to keep doing that instead of going for a gen.

    I had a game last night on coldswind where a huntresses would tunnel one person and then hard camp them. We focused on gens and try and saved but she got the sac anyways. She continued the tunnel even chasing someone right past me within auto attack range of me in a wide open area working on a gen. She literally chased by me for an entire minute and never once threw an ax, damaged gen nor grabbed me off the gen for an easy hook.

    That was all on the killer being bad and this is at high rank no less so stop blaming survivors for killers playing stupidly.

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,930

    @OXY said:

    @only1biggs said:

    @OXY said:

    @only1biggs said:

    @OXY said:
    Flashlight, DS and pallet looping the entire game. Such a great combination.

    I bet he complains when a killer camps him though.

    He didn't use his flashlight, he missed DS. What else is he supposed to do aside from looping? Give himself to the killer?

    Try and lose him by juking him? All he is doing is just running from pallet to pallet and not even making an effort to lose him but instead waste his time.

    Right and it worked...because the killer was bad and didn't go after someone else.

    It doesn't matter if it worked or not, it's making the game hell for the Killer. Losing him would've worked too. You're probably a survivor main and wouldn't understand anyways.

    I wouldn’t dive into fixing things because they’re unfun, even if viable strategy’s. That’s a slippery slope some killers are gonna slide down. You do that, and I’m sure very close camping would get axed because “it’s making the game hell for survivor”

  • BoxingRouge
    BoxingRouge Member Posts: 606
    So much skill in one video “look I’m a pro”
  • SovererignKing
    SovererignKing Member Posts: 1,273
    Just another day. Looping is still an overpowered game mechanic. It’s like play a fighting game like Tekken and there is a 5 minute timer that you auto lose if it counts down to zero, and all your opponent does is block. You have no unblockables, guard breaks, command grabs. 

    This is just another stock example of how Looping empowers survivors to be able to overpower Killers. You’re not really fighting the Survivor, you’re fighting the busted ass hit box size differences that allow for looping for insane amounts of time. There should never be a point in this game where the Killer has to “give up” on a chase because the Survivor can overpower them. He should only have to give up a chase because he lost sight of them, and can’t find them. 
  • StickyCheese
    StickyCheese Member Posts: 26

    @lasombra1979 said:
    Honestly, as a killer, you need to break away and stop getting pulled into it.

    In all honesty, it's a bandaid fix to a nasty gash in the game's mechanics.
    So he stops chasing this dude and focuses on someone else. What says the other guys won't loop him just as hard as this one did, perhaps even actually hitting their DS or actually using their flashlights.

    The only true solution to overcome this kind of playstyle is to play 1 of 3 killer in a roster of 12
    If only a quarter of the killer cast can even remotely play against this style of play(which can be done by any survivor, to an extent even without perks or items), then you know something is wrong with the game.

  • RagDollps4
    RagDollps4 Member Posts: 40
    Could we just instead discuss that p3 means nothing? I have it on few and all it means is I can dump points and get bloody clothes. It doesn't determine any ones worth has a player only that you have played.
  • Might_Oakk
    Might_Oakk Member Posts: 1,243

    Is this just another look how great Iam video? I'd rather not give the thirsty kid the view.

  • ShrimpTwiggs
    ShrimpTwiggs Member Posts: 1,181

    The killer should've broken off from the chase after a while. Instead, he let himself get distracted.

  • Mashtyx1
    Mashtyx1 Member Posts: 188
    I mean yeah survivors can do that but it still kinda falls on the killer due to the fact that he chased that survivor for 5 gens. He could have just broke off and looked for the others.
  • lasombra1979
    lasombra1979 Member Posts: 1,142

    @StickyCheese said:

    @lasombra1979 said:
    Honestly, as a killer, you need to break away and stop getting pulled into it.

    In all honesty, it's a bandaid fix to a nasty gash in the game's mechanics.
    So he stops chasing this dude and focuses on someone else. What says the other guys won't loop him just as hard as this one did, perhaps even actually hitting their DS or actually using their flashlights.

    The only true solution to overcome this kind of playstyle is to play 1 of 3 killer in a roster of 12
    If only a quarter of the killer cast can even remotely play against this style of play(which can be done by any survivor, to an extent even without perks or items), then you know something is wrong with the game.

    In all honesty, getting sucked into a 5 minute tunnel is not due to a problem with game mechanics. It is solely a bad killer. When you get looped for 5 gens by the same survivor, you are the problem, not mechanics.

    I agree that looping can get very bad at times. I disagree that only 3 killers can overcome looping. All can overcome it, its just that some are better at it.

  • RepliCant
    RepliCant Member Posts: 1,436
    edited July 2018

    The Killer made no attempt at mind gaming at all, he just mindlessly chased the survivor in the path he went. He didn't outplay the survivor at all.

    Next......

  • Outland
    Outland Member Posts: 535

    @lasombra1979 said:
    Honestly, as a killer, you need to break away and stop getting pulled into it.

    Which is fine until you realize that all 4 players are just as good at the shenanigans. So you break off to find someone else who does the exact same crap. Its the crap that needs fixing.

  • deathdoer1
    deathdoer1 Member Posts: 87
    I’ve ran killers around the entire game, I’ve been outsmarted hard and downed instantly. Better killers tend to do better. 
  • EpicFailTryHard
    EpicFailTryHard Member Posts: 1,316
    lasombra1979 said:

    This is one of the best examples of when not to tunnel a survivor. I appreciate you posting this educational video.


     i seldom run around in circles at the behest of some random troll.  i simply go patrol gens.  when a killer "takes the bait", it is their own fault.
  • StickyCheese
    StickyCheese Member Posts: 26

    @lasombra1979 said:

    @StickyCheese said:

    @lasombra1979 said:
    Honestly, as a killer, you need to break away and stop getting pulled into it.

    In all honesty, it's a bandaid fix to a nasty gash in the game's mechanics.
    So he stops chasing this dude and focuses on someone else. What says the other guys won't loop him just as hard as this one did, perhaps even actually hitting their DS or actually using their flashlights.

    The only true solution to overcome this kind of playstyle is to play 1 of 3 killer in a roster of 12
    If only a quarter of the killer cast can even remotely play against this style of play(which can be done by any survivor, to an extent even without perks or items), then you know something is wrong with the game.

    In all honesty, getting sucked into a 5 minute tunnel is not due to a problem with game mechanics. It is solely a bad killer. When you get looped for 5 gens by the same survivor, you are the problem, not mechanics.

    I agree that looping can get very bad at times. I disagree that only 3 killers can overcome looping. All can overcome it, its just that some are better at it.

    But do you see where this is going? Forget about this garbage killer for a second.
    Even if a killer wouldn't hardcore tunnel someone and swap targets, the other survivors can just as easily waste your time.
    ''Oh this guy is just wasting my time, better find someone else!
    Oh this guy also just wants to waste my time, better find someone else!''
    Repeat until all the gens get popped anyway.

    Also let me rephrase: Only 3 out of 12 killers can overcome looping by virtue of their own unique power and the player skill attached to it. Technically Hag and Trapper can too but that is too much reliant on chance and requires a costly time investment to set up (which they seem to address in the PTB at least). The rest of the M1-clicker cast can't do this. Their hopes of catching someone is awfully reliant on the survivors making a mistake, which is ludicrous. You don't outplay them, they just mess up.

  • White_Owl
    White_Owl Member Posts: 3,786
    edited July 2018

    Ladies and gentleman, the average Doctor, that thinks he is only good for finding people and mindlessy chases the first survivor he finds. And then needs NOED to get kills.
    The survivor didn't even loop optimally, didn't use the flashlight and missed DS... the killer was just plain bad.
    And being bad is not an excuse to say survivors are op. That can be said when you play optimally and still get rekt.

  • lucvus
    lucvus Member Posts: 52
    I just want to point something out. First and foremost I play both killer and survivor and push towards rank 1 on both every reset. I have every killer perk learned and survivor too. Ok enough back history. What I see are a few things. 1. The survivor is kinda being a dbag HOWEVER that killer needs to back off. If that survivor is a troll he will follow you. This giving you time to pull HIM off gen duty basically wasting the survivors time. While I will agree looping is really annoying. So is a killer who doesn't know when to back off. Sometimes looping is very necessary,  especially when you start the match and the killer starts right next to you which happened to me 4 times in 10 games yesterday.  Bottom line, look at every horror movie ever. Yes the killer takes out people but there is always a survivor that makes it out. Either by setting traps, tripping, or sometimes even trapping a killer or in the case of Texas chainsaw massicure outrunning and juking leatherface. Point is. No one is unbeatable.  NO ONE. Sometimes you get the kills sometimes you get made a fool of. Sometimes you survive other times you get wreckt.  This is a strategy game. I don't care what you play. You do what you need to do. I have been looped, camped, tunneled, been ganged up on. Never stops me. Is it annoying sure. That's just how horror is. I blame both sides for feeling entitled. I play how I need to. I will say there are reworks that are needed but they are slowly coming. So you got 2 choices. 1. Keep playing and stop feeling like your the only one with issues. 2. Find something suited more your style like carebears or my little pony where everything is fair all the time with pretty rainbows and tea parties.
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    I like how you hided the ranks after the game :wink:

  • chefdave12118
    chefdave12118 Member Posts: 193
    I don't think the survivor was bullying. He was just optimal at pallet looping .  I didn't see any teabags or any bm . Just a good survivor. Should survivors just die? I 50/50 killer survivor . I just saw an optimal survivor there. Go take a peak at ochido for some serious bullshit .
  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,590
    The problem with this game is that this type of looping shouldn’t even be possible. Yeah the killer made some mistakes but nothing that severe. It’s too easy for survivors to do this kind of looping.