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Survivor is Boring frankly
To be frank,
It's boring gameplay and not varied enough for me personally. I play both sides rather consistently. Survivor gameplay doesn't have much to it, it's just the same old same old and it gets repetitive tbh.
At least with killers you get a unique power and something new, with Survivors you get perks probably no one's going to use after the first week or two of them being new.
I don't even feel dread as a survivor anymore because of the fact that you know 90% of the time you're going to escape....there are no consequences... It's bland really. Just my opinion but they need to shake things up for Survivors.
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I would love to see you escape 90% of your matches.
Please post videos for us all to see this amazing skill of yours 🌝. Or better yet, why not stream it? We could all learn from these superior skills.
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the fact that you know 90% of the time you're going to escape....there are no consequences...
Whew, you had me there for a second.
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That's one problem a 2nd objective could help with. It would bring something new to the game. (And of course, it would help with balance.)
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@Visionmaker 90% of the time at least 1 person escapes would be a better more accurate statement.
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HAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA I'm not even gonna take you seriously xD
You're funny though, I'll give you a vote up
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I would love it they created other “ways” to escape the trial, like fixing gens but something entirely different.
I can’t think of examples at the moment but just imagine if they had 3-4 “escape modes” and they randomize per match. I think it each match would feel fresh.
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Hatch I guess?
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Guys, admit it. This game as Survivor can be very boring if you know what you're doing. The devs need to spice it up honestly. It's been what, 3 years and we're just now getting something a little different for the endgame. I will be an wrinkly person by the time we get a new game mode or a different objective.
This is in no way saying Survivor is easy all the time, but for the majority of the time it kinda .....is?
Why do you think people taunt the killer to chase them? Because the chase is fun and outside of that you're just holding M1 for the majority of the time, add to this some killers that are not a threat (looking at you Legion, Freddy, Trapper maybe)
It's no wonder swf exists because that's really the only thing objectively keeping the majority (Survivors) here to play.
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You say you can escape 90% of your matches. Prove it.
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Exactly, agreed 100% something that's not holding down a mouse button too preferably lol
Oh and can we get some new music please? At least new chase music
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Fun is subjective and I think both sides are equally fun.
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I don't have anything to prove when the escape rate has been revealed 80% at rank 1 in data by the devs. Also, who are you!? I don't owe you anything lol How much proof do you need, get out your feelings and stop taking it so personal when I just literally said this was my opinion in the Original Post. Begone.
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Well I'm glad you're having fun, you should it's a great game it just needs improvements and tbh on Survivors side It could use a bit more "umph" for me :3
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That 80% isn't real, it has to do with how the data was acquired. That said, the real average escape rate at that time was between 60% and 80%. It only changed to roughly 40% when they made it easier for survivors to pip and flooded high ranks with bad survivors.
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Those stats have been explained numerous times 🤦🏻♀️.
Peanits has explained it countless times on this forum. To be rank 1 when those stats were taken you pretty much HAD to escape. It skewed the results.
Ive been playing since beta. No solo player escapes 80% of the time, period. You're full of it.
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Tbh, Idc stop getting mad over my opinion regardless if the stats were accurate or not, you can't dictate what's fun or not to me. If I feel Survivors kind of boring that's fine, but you're trying to make a side argument over semantics based on some fraudulent data when you can't argue with one thing. You might disagree with me, but the original post about Survivors gameplay being boring is my opinion and frankly I'm not wrong on that as there are some who feel the same and want something different. Good Lord, mad just to be mad I see.
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I will respectfully say to you, idc much about the data. It feels boring, and cold hard numbers doesn't always transfer into how gameplay feels. Similar to what's on paper it may not feel right in game. It's just my opinion.
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I asked you to prove your claim.
You claimed to escape 90% of the time.
I asked you to show us. Videos, streams, anything.
I am not mad. You made a very outrageous claim without any evidence.
I have played about 60 hours since December, I agree the game is overall Boring now.
But you’re trying to avoid providing evidence to your outrageous claim by saying I am mad? Lol. No. I am not mad in the slightest.
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If you'd read past the first sentence, you'd see I'm agreeing with you about survivor being too easy if you know what you're doing, but OK.
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OK.
You don't make sense. How can you say to prove my claim, even though it's just been revealed to be inaccurate? When you yourself were talking about the same data I'm talking about?
So you know what numbers I'm referring to, regardless if they're accurate or not. So then what do you want, there's the so called "evidence".
And regardless if it's been explained to be accurate data or not, idc.
And further more I didn't claim I myself escaped 90% of the time. I said it generally. Regardless if it's 90% or 70% it doesn't matter, you're nitpicking and missing the bigger message of my opinion.
Get off my areola.
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You actually made me lose brain cells.
If YOU play Survivor and YOU claim to escape 90% of your matches, please provide proof of YOUR 90% escape rate.
We are not talking about skewed data.
We are talking about YOUR claim that YOU made regarding your OWN matches.
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Okay??
I didn't say or do anything to malicious to make it seem as though I disagreed with you. Y'all are emotional on this forum.
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pretty sure i already know what kind of survivor player you are based on boasting about your incredible 90% sUrViVaL rAtE
please stick to killer i don't need more teammates like you
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Wrong. I DIDN'T claim I escaped 90% of the time. Re read the passage you might have lost more braincells than you thought. The point I'm trying to make is that your picking an argument over something irrelevant just to stay mad and pretend you have a point when your point overall is moot because it's a post based from opinion not based on factual information. Especially when you said the data was skewed. Please leave.
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READING COMPREHENSION
I didnt claim my survival rate was 90%, do you all not read before posting?
Re-read the passage please. Or do you prefer to go with this narrative?
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If you still wanna play Survivor I would just recommend playing solo or using no perks at that point.
Survivor is boring only cause you have to M1 most of the time. The only time the game is interesting is during a chase, which you have a 1/4 chance of getting in to at any given time.
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the point is nobody cares about escape rate
you can hide all game, hold m1 on generators, open a gate and leave in most games that aren't against a competent nurse or spirit
if you want to shake up how survivor is played try focusing on getting other people out of the game rather than yourself
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I actually do, you're implying or assuming I don't?
I'm actually very altruistic in solo. Sorry but I just find it boring and I want them to add something to spice it up.
That's my point.
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Exactly, that's what I'm saying. That's the major reason it's so boring for me, that darn holding M1 lol xD also yes I also said the same thing, it's why Survivors get in chase because that seems like one of the only truly interesting or intense things as Survivor in this game I know for me at least.
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they don't need to add anything
maybe you just aren't suited for survivor play. plenty of people prefer killer, that doesn't mean survivor needs to be changed
escape rate doesn't mean anything so if you care about that then that's a little sad. escaping itself isn't hard at all. it's 5k points
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The escape rate isn't the focus of my post so idc about that.
And are you really saying the devs don't need to add anything to Survivor gameplay to make it more interesting?
Really? Because there are tons of threads and people also asking for secondary objectives.
Are they too not suitable to play Survivor?
C'mon, it's been 3 years. A whole three. Something new aside from EGC should be added. Something to spice it up for me and others personally.
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I just want more events like the summer BBQ event
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Same, more events would be nice.
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people are asking for secondary objectives because they think the games go too quickly, not because survivor is boring
the reason i brought up the escape rate is because you mentioning it indicates to me what kind of survivor player you are, and tells me why you think it's boring (because you play it in the most boring possible way in order to value escaping so highly)
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I will agree after 3 years the game hasn't changed significantly aside from the EGC. That's the most major change the game has received aside from just balance adjustments, pallet nerfs etc etc.
I know I personally don't prefer Killer. I've played this game long enough to know that.
I've also played long enough to know that I sometimes almost fall asleep playing Survivor.
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First off, how do you know that's the only reason people are suggesting another objective?
Oh. You don't.
Secondly, me mentioning the escape rate was ancillary and also exaggerating because it was a generalization of the overall message:
"AS SURVIVOR IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, MOST TIMES YOU WILL ESCAPE."
And this is in both SWF and solo. So me mentioning the escape rate indicates nothing about how I play to you. You're just assuming.
Oh you must think I'm a blendette that hides at the first sound of heartbeat....?
No?
Oh you must think I'm a meghead just hookrushing.
Still no.
Stop trying to make it out to seem I only care about escaping when I literally said in one of my replies confirming holding M1 is boring so that's why people get into Chase's?
What else you got, I can go all day hunny~
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Same to be honest, I like playing Survivor I just wish there was more to do besides gens, saves, and Chase's.
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how to miss the point in such a way that it becomes incredibly embarrassing
you literally don't need to know what you're doing to escape as survivor because you can sidestep most dimensions of this game while still escaping the trial
as a survivor you literally have the agency to determine how "boring" the game is for you unless the killer is afk or sucking so hard that the game is a joke
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No, I didn't miss a point. You just agreed with me actually on a couple points. It all comes down to opinion which is what mine is, and it still doesn't negate the fact that a vast majority wants new things added in survivor gameplay.
So once again
I appreciate it.
👍
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I have mixed feelings on this. Yes survivor can be repetitive but often the people complaining of being bored have played for 3 years and a 1000 hours. I don't think many games have that lifespan. Would a second objective or whatever really make that much difference. Maybe time to move on to a new game?
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Meh, at the end of the day, you do you. If you don't find it fun, try killer as changes can be slow to make, especially with other things that are coming, and maybe come back when those changes are implemented.
I still find survivor interesting. I like being surprised by killers that aren't all ruin and NOED (and before you shoot me no i'm not condemning those perks but it does get wearing after several games) but still retain awesome skills to test my play style.
I like meeting the crazy but awesome survivor players who you just meld with as a team without needing to say a thing, as opposed to the lemmings you see go down around the hook 1, 2, 3.
I adore the once in a while silly killers who obviously got bored being the bad guy and just meme around the map with you.
I'm not saying new objectives wouldn't be fun, but I will say that fun is subjective, and I'm the kind of person to find fun where I can or make my own. So I'm still having a blast as survivor, even if i don't make it to the exit gates.
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I agree, but not for the same reasons.
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if that's what you gathered from this discussion then discussing anything with you is a black hole
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You escape in 90 out of 100 games (90%)? Are you sure about that? 😂
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I still find Solo Surv fun.
Maybe frustrating after getting 90 braindead teammates in a row,but making fun builds,never knowing how the match is going to be ,what map,what killer,ecc...
It's still pretty fun to me.
You can play both,you are not forced to play survivors all day,if you like killer more,maybe that's your playstyle.
I agree that survs need an other objective that its not M1 all day .
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