Spirit OP? Let's ask the audience...
Is she fun or is she Op?
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I am a P3 spirit main who pours all their bloodpoints into her so that I always have a ridiculous amount of add-ons and offerings that many on these forums consider op. Things in the realm of Prayer Beads, Yakuyoke Amulets, Ebony Mori, Ivory Mori, Mother Daughter Ring all with perks such as A Nurse's Calling, BBQ And Chili, Monitor'n'Abuse, NOED, Whispers, Ruin, Devour Hope, etc. Added upon that, I can equip a BLS, GG, SBOfP or a ward to keep it all for longer. Double blood point weekends just replenish my stock. I'm in red ranks consistently and average a 3-4k with hatch plays being the primary means of escape.
I can reliably hit survivors healthy or injured due to hearing the loud breathing and other sounds in and out of chase. Scratch marks are not as useful as sound so using stealth perks such as Iron Will, Urban Evasion, and others that deal with scratch marks aren't so effective. After that, if I suspect that Premonition or Spine Chill is in use, I am using phase erratically all over the map to effectively haunt hotspots all while not looking at my intended target.
I really enjoy the overpowering mindgames and intense agro playstyle that the spirit has to offer in the high ranks of dead by daylight where more run complete builds and strata.
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I don't think she us op but rather just a coin flip then a actual read
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Base spirit no. Prayer beads spirit yes
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I don't think she is however I may be biased because I main her as well :P
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I think she’s a a good killer and a standard of where other killers should be at imo
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I don't enjoy her for the same reason I don't play nurse, all the chases with her are one-sided. doesn't matter if the survivor is good or bad, you have many options to help u determine exactly where the survivor is while phasing (scratch marks, sound, collision) while the survivor has none. she's boring to play against
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No she's fine just difficult to play against
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she's not op, end of it
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Run Iron Will, watch the majority of Spirits start pulling their hair out.
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I love facing against Spirits and playing Spirit aswell, and yes, i feel she is OP aswell, and with the right perks? oh man
Best of it is that if you can play her well, you can be good with every other killer aswell due to your newly developed sonic-ear
I realized almost no one knows how does she behaves, sometimes if you try to bait people, they think you dc'd and then call you "lag switcher" when you appear behind them lol
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wouldn't call her op but i would call her poor killer design
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Spirit is not OP, even with addons. Only addon that would be considered OP is Prayer Beads, since there is really no counterplay.
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Please, we don't need spirit to be touch again by BHVR, nothing is OP about her
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Prayer beads
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Prayer Beads have to get changed, everything else is fine.
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Prayer beads
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We have ears
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OP? No, I think she's the most overrated killer in the game. Her base kit is a bit lacking and stealth/juking perks such as iron will and spine chill turn her into a joke.
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Not everyone can hear them.
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hearing a fast moving killer 3 seconds before she hits you is not helpful
if you're on a generator, her footsteps are not audible over the gen's sounds
prayer beads is not counterable through normal gameplay
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She's just a viable and fun killer to play as and against
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How well do you do without any add-ons?
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She's not even remotely op.
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She's definitely not fun to play against, I'd put her in A tier with Hillbilly just a step below Nurses S tier. Like hillbilly or nurse the match just turns into an unhook fest back and forth.
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I like her. In the right hand she definitely can be fearsome, but that can apply to other skilled killers too. 🙂
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she is where she should be. all these comments about prayer beads. ######### man. what because she can get the drop on you with one item? ######### lol ... and to those who are on about a nerf with one item like that. no. more killers should be her level.
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a base spirit with good ear is scary, but just like a nurse, but then the addon is what make both of these killers broken
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Spirit is boring to play against and gets an insta DC every time like certain maps.
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Without Iron Will, you're done for. Even with Iron Will, it becomes a coin toss in favor of The Spirit.
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I dont like her, she is boring and annoying so i always DC as survivor when i see her.
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I don't mind going against her, and when I play her I try to avoid being that annoying
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She is in the right position and no changes are required to her.
She is the only killer that bhvr managed to now screw over.
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thats why you run spine chill with those ridiculous amount of Spirit in high ranks :D
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I dont think she's op but I don't like going against spirits. It takes the fun out of the chase and makes it a guessing game which is fine for some but I dont enjoy it.
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Lots of people bringing up prayer beads. I assume a lot of them are truetalent sheep.
Not to say they are wrong, prayer beads are insane. And this is going to sound quite silly, but if you are having a hard time against a gen grab spirit, just gen tap. Even if there is no ruin. Just gen tap.
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I like playing vs Spirits.
If Spirit is using Prayer Beads, thats when I kill myself on hook or dc depending the situation.
Edit: Just had a game vs Spirit with Prayer Beads and kinda expected result in post game lobby.
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Overall no, I don't think so. With Wakizashi, Prayer Beads, and Amulet though, I would say she becomes overpowered.
And yeah the fact that so many people hate facing her I would say makes her not fun to face either.
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The problem is she is not consistent.
Its all a guessing game with her.
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Alright, I am going to speak for a lot of Spirit mains when I say this, but they have to predict your movement to get a hit. Depending on some circumstances, that can be easy or hard. Sorry to tell you the bad news, but the reason why you are getting hit is because you are being really predictable.
Imagine this scenario: You are in a chase with a Spirit, and you dropped a pallet in front of her. Uh oh, she is not moving after you dropped the pallet, so you are left with these options:
- Stay where you are.
- Vault the pallet.
- Walk away from the pallet.
- Run to the next pallet loop.
The Spirit player can do these things:
- Stay where she's at and not phase.
- Phase around the loop.
- Phase to the next loop.
- Break the pallet.
Somethings like being injured will make it harder to conceal yourself, but most survivors run Iron Will anyways. You have to adapt to her playstyle as the game continues on. For example: If she always picks option 2, then you'll know later on to pick option 2.
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cool but i was specifically referring to gen grabs/hits against prayer beads spirit so i dunno why you typed this to me
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"just gen tap" lol thanks for the advice
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Look for crows flying away and grass moving. Those are signs that she is coming. On the game map, she makes a stomping noise. Not as loud when she's phasing but you can still hear it if you listen closely. Spirit is fine as is and so is Prayer Beads. Don't start trying to nerf killers again, otherwise, we'll do the same to your add-ons.
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spirit doesn't make grass move and crows are unreliable
her footsteps are barely audible and cannot be heard next to gen sounds
prayer beads are not fine, stop defending them
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I just had to use them long enough for the gen grab achievement to realise how bullshit they are lol. I just ended up letting everyone go when doing it, it's one of the cheapest builds I've ever played.
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They should remove prayer breads and then maybe will be balanced
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Try Spine Chill and Iron Will against a Spirit.
See how much fun you can have.
She is a good killer and the only thing that makes her op are survivors unwilling to adjust or trying some non meta perks.
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using perks is not counterplay
if something cannot be countered through in-game means, it is not balanced
prayer beads has no counterplay
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Deny her the mindgames and she's weak as hell.
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I think most people agree that some of her add ons are BS.
Also, apparently Spirit can see grass/corn moving but survivors cannot.
I would be open to changing it so that neither the Spirit or survivors can see grass moving.
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