General Discussions
General Discussions
Freddy's old playstyle will be missed.
I think im not alone, but there are still not many of us that have mastered Freddy in his current state. And i cant but to feel sad that we are losing our most enjoyable killer in this game to this new rework. If this rework had been a completely new killer in addition i would be thrilled, but since it is taking away my favorite thing in the game again (endgame piggy). Im not really filled with joy.
Old Freddy had something no other killer in this game had. He had the option to truly be the dreammaster. And to toy with his survivors, without getting punished trough genrush among other things. He was the master of information and the unknown. Always knowing where you where without you knowing where he was. He could be right behind you and suddenly appear infront of you. No other killer gave you this much control and choices in the trial.
A true dreammaster was near impossible to escape without a bit of luck or strong cooperation. And even then it could simply not be enough if he chose to kill you.
This new reworked Freddy has nowhere near the potential old Freddy had. And his power also no longer rewards the so much desired playfulness that old Freddy provided. He simply joins the rank of so many other killers where a chase must be followed trough or you will lose.
I know many people disagree, but to be frank. Those people have never seen or played Freddy the way he excels at. Those that come with the argument that he is weak because of the dream transition. Simply do not know where his strenghts lie, but we who do can morn about the passing of our dreammaster...
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It sucks that the new Freddy doesn't get global aura reading on sleeping survivors. That's what made him unique and fun.
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gonna play the hell out of him these next two weeks and use all his good addons, since his new ones are mostly crap :(
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"Always knowing where you where without you knowing where he was. He could be right behind you and suddenly appear infront of you. No other killer gave you this much control and choices in the trial."
Myers can do this to a certain extent and in some ways better than old freddy could. Freddy has a lullabye so you knew when he was near, T1 Myers is completely silent and can appear without any indication whatsoever. Not even players with OoO can see him. The only drawback to a permanant T1 scratched mirror myers is he is slow and his lunge is terrible so he won't win chases. But sneaking up on survivors and grabbing them off generators is never easier.
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I certainly won't miss the 7-second delay & some maps being dark asf.
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I know im gonna have problems like trying to put people to sleep with freddys old power thats no longer there
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It was boring
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As i mentioned. Many people will disagree, but we who know, knows there is noone better, Freddy also has permanent invsibility so you never know where he is, just the area he is in. He will see you long before you know where he is. And while in the dream it is so easy to let your target go, and then predict his movement to make him run into you instead of chasing after him.
Myers altough also fun, has no stall. And much more diffulty of finding people after tier 1. And you can't juggle survivors like you can with freddy. You have to chase the one you find.
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the 7 second delay mean nothing when you play as the dreammaster :P If you play noobstomper Freddy it can be annoying, but that is a very boring playstyle to me tho.
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That's a matter of perspective.
I disliked it heavily, but i really liked how Nightmare played.
Doesn't matter if it means nothing.
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I'm going to really miss stacking my add-ons and Perk Build to slow the game down considerably and then torment/toy with the Survivors. Sure the whole delay to hit them and unable to grab em or hit em on unhooks...but Ive played current Freddy so much I have muscle memory and strategies down pretty well...it....gonna take a long time to get rid of that old style :/
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My main concern is that old freddy was the only killer that could "play" with the survivors new one is a standard killer with a hybrid of all the other killers powers. That does not reward you for letting your prey go.
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Freddy was not fun on either side, i for one, am rather glad about the changes. Goodbye tunnel monster, hello Nightmare.
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Rest in peace to the Freddy I learned to play, and learned to enjoy. You will be sorely missed.
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that is because you don't know how to play him and neither did the person you played against.
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Yeah unfortunately you're going to need to use perks and actual skill to find survivors instead of map wide aura reading.
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......if a survivor was THAT far that you're claiming map wide, you don't chase them. More than likely they're going to fail a skill check before you get there. Claiming that Freddy didn't require skill on live......riiiiiiiight. Let's see all of your Freddy 4k vids.
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Honestly with old Freddy, actions should have made the transition happen faster. The number of people who just sat on a gen while the transition happened was ridiculous much less hex totems.
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I'm not a Freddy main but I see why you might be upset. Not sure why they didn't simply buff him to have the teleport and to set fake pallets as a base power.
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The UR ones are much better, but I don't see BB going live as is. Permasleep makes an obsession hurt the team.
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Mmm, I taste some salt 😏🎣
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I didn't say he didn't require skill. I said he didn't require skill in keeping track of and finding survivors. It's the same problem I have with the Doctor.
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Why did they remove the down vote button? I need it for this type of sh** :P
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No amount of knowing how to play against him made it fun.
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You aren't alone. Haven't played him into much lately because I wanna git gud with other killers amd it's been faster to play survivor bit when I want to pay it forward when someone play swetty, I bring out freddy for my 4k
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Fun to play*
Global aura reading is obviously oppressive to play against, required very little skill, and needed tremendous setbacks to his kit to offset.
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What I liked about old Freddy was how unique he was. Sure he was the "worst" killer in game but that didn't make him useless. If you play him as you would anyone else you are sure to lose but play to his unique strengths and you can really wreck the team.
Freddy was the first killer I actually got good with and was able to get to red ranks with. I learned him and his special play-style and just plowed through survivors in a week or so.
I am going to miss old Freddy a lot. New Freddy, as someone above said, is just another M1 killer with reused abilities. I don't mean to hate on the new Freddy, he seems like fun for what he is. He just won't have the same charm and enjoyment as our beloved Freddy now.
Cheers to all the pre-rework Freddy mains out there. Here's to being able to say we played before he was "strong" lmao
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If I were you , I will open a ticket requesting Freddy s money back because that is not what you had purchased. Rise a ticket!
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Freddy was a unique killer and to be honest I usually 4k'd every game I played with him aside from a few DC's and the higher rank SWF teams that knew how to exploit his very broken mechanic with the dream state. He was great against survivors who played against him like a normal killer but there was nothing more frustrating than a survivor healing and purposely missing skill checks to save a friend or unhooking right in front of you, or popping gens while you are trying to put them to sleep. Not to mention the endgame hatch escape that was inevitable. He was fun against mid to low rank players though. I'm just curious to see how this plays out and really hope he isn't any worse because with certain add ons he was pretty good before.
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I won't miss playing against old Freddy at all, but many many people underestimate him and his Potential if played right. I've my fair share of matches against good Freddys. They're nervracking. Not fun at all, for me personally, but it's certain that he isn't nearly as weak as people claim him to be.
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I love playing f
reddyand I think that trend will continue with the rework. I haven't read up on it too much so I dont know if they're changing his perks, but blood warden is a staple for a few of my killers0 -
This type of post is why I enjoy lurking on the forums lol
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I also enjoy old Freddy waaaay more than the new Freddy. Snares ######### suck and so does the teleportation with its 5 second warning...
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Y'all are acting like Freddy was the best killer and if someone doesn't agree they just don't know how to play him.
I for one didn't like playing him because not only are other killers stronger with less effort but he never felt like Freddy, the only parts of his kit that resembled him is knowing where people are in his world and putting people to sleep. It didn't even have much of the aesthetic down.
For me at the moment just watching people smile after hitting someone through a dream pallet is more satisfying than playing non-rework Freddy.
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His nightmare end here new freddy is in a better place but, i will miss action penalty during dream state.
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Am I the only one who wants old Freddy to be back in a form of an add-on ? It would be pretty cool imo.
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Wow, a killer who's only counterplay was to hard loop him and gen rush is gone. How sad.
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I would rather keep old Freddy with some buffs/tweaks than this new abomination. Hell, they could've tagged the teleport on to his old version and that might've made him a legit killer - just that one change. Naw, you get DocHag... cause ideas are hard.
Still can't shake the feeling that the only reason he has traps and fake pallets is because it was easy to reuse some of the ground work from the other killers.
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As Freddy you were suppose to hit,run and sleep. Not take every loop.
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Lol. Every killer except nurse is like that :P
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I'll miss him too. Very enthusiastic about gen teleport, but I wish old version could somehow stay available.
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So, of the people commenting here, who has put some hours in with the Freddy rework. Of those people who have, what is your first impression?
I liked playing OG Freddy but I'm walking into his rework with open arms to see if I can learn his new style. I'm sure he still has lots of potential to mind game and everything, it'll just take time :)
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That happens with ALLLLL Freddys. I've seen it happen to the better streamers constantly so don't try that bullcrap.
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Dream transition was WAYYYYYY to long without add ons. No other killer had to wait that long after finding someone to just M1 them.
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That backpedal that wasn't even right still. The aura reading means you failed at chases, not finding people. Freddy was one of the hardest killers to actually initially locate survivors. If you got found by a Freddy, he didn't lack skill at finding or tracking. The dream state aura punished you for your initial lack of hiding from someone who has a terrible screen state to work with in finding you.
Much less by your logic, Nurse players lack skill at chases; Billy, Myers, LF, and GF lack skill at getting a second hit on players, and the Spirit lacks skill at mind gaming.
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It would be cool if they kept the old Freddy in the game. A mechanic like Legion, having different characters. But instead of different genders you would have Freddy 1.0 and freddy rework to switch between them. I personally liked the old Freddy playstyle. He wasn't strong in high ranks but after rank reset he was really fun. Even without perks and add-ons.
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Idk how it will change by hopefully be for the better .devs have a habit of catering to the survivors. Well just have to wait and see
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Yeah, that's true. But then again, he was invisible with only a TR in form of vague music. Unless you catched some lowkey moving grass, you were oftentimes at a loss as to where to hide or where to run to.
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Well, the usual design move when reworking a character who had appreciated components is to rehash them for a later release. Maybe Freddy's playstyle will come back after a few adjustments.
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It wasn't a backpedal, you are apparently just unable to read what I wrote.
And no, finding survivors when you're invisible is not difficult.
Giving Freddy an ugly filter that makes it hard to see is a poor design decision, not a reason to give him infinite aura reading, which is a cheap, lazy power.
Moving on now.
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I'm excited about new Freddy, but having recently lost Legion, I don't want to lose a second killer I enjoyed playing.
Reskin old Freddy, call him something else, tweak his stats a little and release him back.
Some people don't want old Freddy back because they think he's weak. Don't play him then.
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