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Competitive Play

JammyJewels
JammyJewels Member Posts: 611
in General Discussions
Let's talk a bit about the average mode. It is directly linked to rank and by this it seems to be competitive. Well I'd like to suggest some changes. 

CASUAL MODES
Of course KYF exists. But it isn't rewarding to play it. So perhaps why not add a new way to play? The average 1v4 but with no rank attached. You'd only be able to enter Casual Play if your rank is above 10/13.

COMPETITIVE RULES
A new competitive option would be available. But all perks are disabled for both survivor and killer. As you climb the ranks the challenge increases, slower gen progress or more required gens for survivors. The challenge wouldn't be one sided as Killers would have fewer hooks spawned into the map. Again, no perks for either side so no DS or SC and items would only be able to be accessed through chests.

Comments

  • det0xxp
    det0xxp Member Posts: 121
    I would love to play a barebones version of the game, but survivors love their perks too much so it would be practically dead.
  • JammyJewels
    JammyJewels Member Posts: 611
    det0xxp said:
    I would love to play a barebones version of the game, but survivors love their perks too much so it would be practically dead.
    What about being able to use only one perk then? The Devs would be able to analyse the perks that are overused in the competitive mode and then be able to see which ones are the most powerful survivor perks. Plus Killer perks too, though I think the Devs know that BBQ + Chilli and Ruin are the meta... Though I doubt they'll be making any changes to those.
  • ThePloopz
    ThePloopz Member Posts: 1,010
    edited July 2018
    Wait so if you’re rank 1-9 you’d have to derank just to play casually? 
  • JammyJewels
    JammyJewels Member Posts: 611
    ThePloopz said:
    Wait so if you’re rank 1-9 you’d have to derank just to play casually?
    You'd be at those ranks for a reason. I reached Rank 5 last season because I stuck to doing my gens and playing stealthy.
  • ThePloopz
    ThePloopz Member Posts: 1,010
    edited July 2018
    JammyJewels said:
    ThePloopz said:
    Wait so if you’re rank 1-9 you’d have to derank just to play casually?
    You'd be at those ranks for a reason. I reached Rank 5 last season because I stuck to doing my gens and playing stealthy.
    That would defeat the purpose having a casual mode. If no rank is attached then anyone should be able to play it,just like any other game where there’s a ranked mode and a regular one
  • Compton
    Compton Member Posts: 1

    @det0xxp said:
    I would love to play a barebones version of the game, but survivors love their perks too much so it would be practically dead.

    I read this as borderless windowed mode and was confused.

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    SenzuDuck said:

    As if match making isn't horrendous enough - lets split the player base, that'll work.

    your hilarious butthurt at the concept of your bad swf group not being able to compete when the ladder comes out, leading you to rage against the ladder itself, is really funny.

    if you just git gud, you wont have to be so embarrassed.
  • JammyJewels
    JammyJewels Member Posts: 611
    SenzuDuck said:

    As if match making isn't horrendous enough - lets split the player base, that'll work.

    The current matchmaking (I imagine you're speaking of how unfair it can be (Rank 1 survivor with Rank 18 Killer or team mates)) is horrible, I'll give you that. But I play as someone would if they were #fullyimmersed. I don't play for the rank and just try to have fun yet I'll be thrust into situations I can't deal with because I'm not that good at the game yet.
  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    edited July 2018
    JammyJewels said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    As if match making isn't horrendous enough - lets split the player base, that'll work.

    The current matchmaking (I imagine you're speaking of how unfair it can be (Rank 1 survivor with Rank 18 Killer or team mates)) is horrible, I'll give you that. But I play as someone would if they were #fullyimmersed. I don't play for the rank and just try to have fun yet I'll be thrust into situations I can't deal with because I'm not that good at the game yet.
    senzu is only speaking out of concern that the ladder wont have swf, resulting in him ragequitting cuz he cant solo and making the following post... Senzuduck: “######### ladder sucks i quit”
  • JammyJewels
    JammyJewels Member Posts: 611
    Lowbei said:
    JammyJewels said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    As if match making isn't horrendous enough - lets split the player base, that'll work.

    The current matchmaking (I imagine you're speaking of how unfair it can be (Rank 1 survivor with Rank 18 Killer or team mates)) is horrible, I'll give you that. But I play as someone would if they were #fullyimmersed. I don't play for the rank and just try to have fun yet I'll be thrust into situations I can't deal with because I'm not that good at the game yet.
    senzu is only speaking out of concern that the ladder wont have swf, resulting in him ragequitting cuz he cant solo and making the following post... Senzuduck: “######### ladder sucks i quit”
    I don't see why SWF isn't removed. It's a huge hindrance to constantly remake the group and it causes a major disadvantage to the killer. Not to mention ruining the experiences of the solo players.

  • steezo_de
    steezo_de Member Posts: 1,211

    There aren't enough players above rank 10 to support this competitive mode.

  • ThePloopz
    ThePloopz Member Posts: 1,010
    edited July 2018
    JammyJewels said:
    Lowbei said:
    JammyJewels said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    As if match making isn't horrendous enough - lets split the player base, that'll work.

    The current matchmaking (I imagine you're speaking of how unfair it can be (Rank 1 survivor with Rank 18 Killer or team mates)) is horrible, I'll give you that. But I play as someone would if they were #fullyimmersed. I don't play for the rank and just try to have fun yet I'll be thrust into situations I can't deal with because I'm not that good at the game yet.
    senzu is only speaking out of concern that the ladder wont have swf, resulting in him ragequitting cuz he cant solo and making the following post... Senzuduck: “######### ladder sucks i quit”
    I don't see why SWF isn't removed. It's a huge hindrance to constantly remake the group and it causes a major disadvantage to the killer. Not to mention ruining the experiences of the solo players.

    Because they cannot afford to remove it. Also it’s done a lot of good for this game and continues to do so
  • JammyJewels
    JammyJewels Member Posts: 611
    steezo_de said:

    There aren't enough players above rank 10 to support this competitive mode.

    I think it's because it's too easy to pip, at the moment... Rank 5 reached yet I don't know half the stuff of a high ranked player. Hell, I'm pretty sure I still get caught by BBQ + Chilli (despite crouching behind a gen.) I still need to learn a lot of things like how to make my chases longer, how to juke, if OoO can be used without being detected by hiding behind a gen, like BBQ...
  • OGlilSPOOK20
    OGlilSPOOK20 Member Posts: 716
    Yea ppl have been wanting this for awhile. Casual should be when you wanna have fun with crazy perk builds and add-ons and Rank should be a mode where you go in as killer or survivor with no perks or add-ons. It's so simple to make that the Devs won't even bother creating it. Also at the end of every season for Rank... There should be rewards for making it to certain ranks
  • OXY
    OXY Member Posts: 68

    Jesus christ, can you imagine the amount of toxicity that will spew out of competitive games on DBD? It's bad enough in casual.

  • JammyJewels
    JammyJewels Member Posts: 611
    OXY said:

    Jesus christ, can you imagine the amount of toxicity that will spew out of competitive games on DBD? It's bad enough in casual.

    But there isn't a casual mode at the moment, given how it's a ranked system...
  • deadwolfwalking
    deadwolfwalking Member Posts: 624

    swf is the biggest draw to this game. take it away and you can go ahead an uninstall to free up space.... they need 4 happy ppl and 1 person thats not quite mad enough to quit.... thats just how it is....

  • steezo_de
    steezo_de Member Posts: 1,211

    @JammyJewels said:
    steezo_de said:

    There aren't enough players above rank 10 to support this competitive mode.

    I think it's because it's too easy to pip, at the moment... Rank 5 reached yet I don't know half the stuff of a high ranked player. Hell, I'm pretty sure I still get caught by BBQ + Chilli (despite crouching behind a gen.) I still need to learn a lot of things like how to make my chases longer, how to juke, if OoO can be used without being detected by hiding behind a gen, like BBQ...

    From rank 9-1, during the times I play and especially after rank reset, I can wait a LONG time for a game. Even then, it might be against the same survivors with their same perk loadout and playstyle or redping survivors that complain about lag (from me too!!!). I'd rather just have a regular game with different players than a new mode that would make it that much harder to find.

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    steezo_de said:

    There aren't enough players above rank 10 to support this competitive mode.

    yes there are. you wouldnt know.
  • ShrimpTwiggs
    ShrimpTwiggs Member Posts: 1,181

    @JammyJewels said:
    Lowbei said:


    JammyJewels said:


    SenzuDuck said:

    As if match making isn't horrendous enough - lets split the player base, that'll work.

    The current matchmaking (I imagine you're speaking of how unfair it can be (Rank 1 survivor with Rank 18 Killer or team mates)) is horrible, I'll give you that. But I play as someone would if they were #fullyimmersed. I don't play for the rank and just try to have fun yet I'll be thrust into situations I can't deal with because I'm not that good at the game yet.

    senzu is only speaking out of concern that the ladder wont have swf, resulting in him ragequitting cuz he cant solo and making the following post... Senzuduck: “######### ladder sucks i quit”

    I don't see why SWF isn't removed. It's a huge hindrance to constantly remake the group and it causes a major disadvantage to the killer. Not to mention ruining the experiences of the solo players.

    If the devs remove it, it might kill the game. I agree that it's overpowered, but I don't think it's going to be removed.

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @JammyJewels said:
    Lowbei said:


    JammyJewels said:


    SenzuDuck said:

    As if match making isn't horrendous enough - lets split the player base, that'll work.

    The current matchmaking (I imagine you're speaking of how unfair it can be (Rank 1 survivor with Rank 18 Killer or team mates)) is horrible, I'll give you that. But I play as someone would if they were #fullyimmersed. I don't play for the rank and just try to have fun yet I'll be thrust into situations I can't deal with because I'm not that good at the game yet.

    senzu is only speaking out of concern that the ladder wont have swf, resulting in him ragequitting cuz he cant solo and making the following post... Senzuduck: “######### ladder sucks i quit”

    I don't see why SWF isn't removed. It's a huge hindrance to constantly remake the group and it causes a major disadvantage to the killer. Not to mention ruining the experiences of the solo players.

    If the devs remove it, it might kill the game. I agree that it's overpowered, but I don't think it's going to be removed.

    it wont be removed. it simply wont be able to be used for the ladder system.
  • Envees
    Envees Member Posts: 370

    @ThePloopz said:
    JammyJewels said:


    Lowbei said:


    JammyJewels said:


    SenzuDuck said:

    As if match making isn't horrendous enough - lets split the player base, that'll work.

    The current matchmaking (I imagine you're speaking of how unfair it can be (Rank 1 survivor with Rank 18 Killer or team mates)) is horrible, I'll give you that. But I play as someone would if they were #fullyimmersed. I don't play for the rank and just try to have fun yet I'll be thrust into situations I can't deal with because I'm not that good at the game yet.

    senzu is only speaking out of concern that the ladder wont have swf, resulting in him ragequitting cuz he cant solo and making the following post... Senzuduck: “######### ladder sucks i quit”

    I don't see why SWF isn't removed. It's a huge hindrance to constantly remake the group and it causes a major disadvantage to the killer. Not to mention ruining the experiences of the solo players.

    Because they cannot afford to remove it. Also it’s done a lot of good for this game and continues to do so

    The only good swf does is more sales of dlc and cosmetics for already hooked survs. SWF does more harm than good. Look at the state of the forums. Nothing but bitching about swf and swf crews defending it so they can keep cheating.

  • ThePloopz
    ThePloopz Member Posts: 1,010
    edited July 2018
    Envees said:

    @ThePloopz said:
    JammyJewels said:


    Lowbei said:


    JammyJewels said:


    SenzuDuck said:

    As if match making isn't horrendous enough - lets split the player base, that'll work.

    The current matchmaking (I imagine you're speaking of how unfair it can be (Rank 1 survivor with Rank 18 Killer or team mates)) is horrible, I'll give you that. But I play as someone would if they were #fullyimmersed. I don't play for the rank and just try to have fun yet I'll be thrust into situations I can't deal with because I'm not that good at the game yet.

    senzu is only speaking out of concern that the ladder wont have swf, resulting in him ragequitting cuz he cant solo and making the following post... Senzuduck: “######### ladder sucks i quit”

    I don't see why SWF isn't removed. It's a huge hindrance to constantly remake the group and it causes a major disadvantage to the killer. Not to mention ruining the experiences of the solo players.

    Because they cannot afford to remove it. Also it’s done a lot of good for this game and continues to do so

    The only good swf does is more sales of dlc and cosmetics for already hooked survs. SWF does more harm than good. Look at the state of the forums. Nothing but bitching about swf and swf crews defending it so they can keep cheating.

    List of good things swf had done/ is doing:
    Extends the longevity of the game for players 
    Brought/Brings in new players
    Raised game sales
    Raised dlc sales
    Gives a better experience for those in the swf
    Will cause more cosmetics to be sold
    On PC groups who have good experiences with swf may be more likely to buy Death Garden 

    People hate swf and complain about it but it brings in money. Swf will get bhvr more money than a balanced game where swf doesn’t exist and at the end of the day money is more important than a balanced game. People need to just get over it tbh it’s been in the game since 2016 and it’s not leaving. Also these forums do not represent how much of the playerbase want swf gone and it also doesn’t represent how much want it to stay

    Post edited by ThePloopz on
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    JammyJewels said:
    Let's talk a bit about the average mode. It is directly linked to rank and by this it seems to be competitive. Well I'd like to suggest some changes. 

    CASUAL MODES
    Of course KYF exists. But it isn't rewarding to play it. So perhaps why not add a new way to play? The average 1v4 but with no rank attached. You'd only be able to enter Casual Play if your rank is above 10/13.

    COMPETITIVE RULES
    A new competitive option would be available. But all perks are disabled for both survivor and killer. As you climb the ranks the challenge increases, slower gen progress or more required gens for survivors. The challenge wouldn't be one sided as Killers would have fewer hooks spawned into the map. Again, no perks for either side so no DS or SC and items would only be able to be accessed through chests.
    So beginners are not allowed to play casual and have to face the death squads bullying them, seems like a good idea

    Also SWF must be banned from ranked mode
  • Doom_Punk
    Doom_Punk Member Posts: 371

    This game is the exact opposite of competitive, no point in wasting time making a mode like this.

  • Runiver
    Runiver Member Posts: 2,095

    This game is WANNABE competitive. So far it's a rather casual/meme game.
    Going in the right direction tho, but it will take a good amount of time before it reaches the point you can call this game competitive.

  • Envees
    Envees Member Posts: 370

    @ThePloopz said:
    Envees said:

    @ThePloopz said:

    JammyJewels said:

    Lowbei said:



JammyJewels said:



SenzuDuck said:

As if match making isn't horrendous enough - lets split the player base, that'll work.



The current matchmaking (I imagine you're speaking of how unfair it can be (Rank 1 survivor with Rank 18 Killer or team mates)) is horrible, I'll give you that. But I play as someone would if they were #fullyimmersed. I don't play for the rank and just try to have fun yet I'll be thrust into situations I can't deal with because I'm not that good at the game yet.

senzu is only speaking out of concern that the ladder wont have swf, resulting in him ragequitting cuz he cant solo and making the following post... Senzuduck: “######### ladder sucks i quit”

I don't see why SWF isn't removed. It's a huge hindrance to constantly remake the group and it causes a major disadvantage to the killer. Not to mention ruining the experiences of the solo players.

    Because they cannot afford to remove it. Also it’s done a lot of good for this game and continues to do so

    The only good swf does is more sales of dlc and cosmetics for already hooked survs. SWF does more harm than good. Look at the state of the forums. Nothing but bitching about swf and swf crews defending it so they can keep cheating.

    List of good things swf had done/ is doing:
    Extends the longevity of the game for players 
    Brought/Brings in new players
    Raised game sales
    Raised dlc sales
    Gives a better experience for those in the swf
    Will cause more cosmetics to be sold
    On PC groups who have good experiences with swf may be more likely to buy Death Garden 

    People hate swf and complain about it but it brings in money. Swf will get bhvr more money than a balanced game where swf doesn’t exist and at the end of the day money is more important than a balanced game. People need to just get over it tbh it’s been in the game since 2016 and it’s not leaving. Also these forums do not represent how much of the playerbase want swf gone and it also doesn’t represent how much want it to stay

    I am not opposed to swf. I am opposed to swf using coms.