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What is an "M1 Killer"
The forum has a bad habit of categorizing any killer that isn't top tier as an M1 Killer, but I'm curious to hear exactly what people think that term means, since it really doesn't make sense. What do you think is an M1 Killer and why is that bad?
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A M1 killer (for me) is a killer that cannot down a survivor with their power, essentially. A killer that need to chase a survivor down.
Examples would be Trapper, Freddy and Clown.
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They are referring to killers who don't have a power that helps with loops,I think
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Example Plague no corrupt M1 killer.
Plague with corrupt not M1 killer.
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I was wondering this myself. My best guess (and this is by no means an official answer) is that it came from the players on PC. M1 probably refers to Mouse-button-1, which would be the button for the standard attack. Therefore an M1 killer is one that can chase and hit, but otherwise has no usable benefit from an M2 special power.
Now for anyone out there, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong!
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Ah, so killers like Nurse and Spirit who also don't directly deal damage with their powers would count too. Which is why I don't understand why M1 is typically synonyms with weak.
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I have always take it as this.
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For me, an M1-Killer is someone who has 115% Movement Speed, benefits from Spirit Fury/Enduring and has to do normal Loops.
So: Trapper, Wraith, Billy, Legion, Leatherface, Clown, Doctor, Plague, Freddy, Ghostface, Pig, Myers
No M1-Killer: Nurse, Spirit, Hag, Huntress
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They don't because they can attack out of their ability. The Nurse would be a M1 killer if she couldn't attack out of a blink.
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@ClogWench The difference would be that those attacks are even recognized by the game as being different. You can just float up to someone as nurse and hit M1, or you can land ontop of them with a blink and hit them, which would reward more points. The 2 hits are abit different, even if they both involve M1.
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Being an M1 killer is good for emblems.
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M1 isn't synonyms with weak. Myers is one of the stronger Killers despite being M1.
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So then Wraith, Freddy and Clown aren't M1 either by that logic
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M1 means standard chase mechanics and loops apply.
Chases with any M1 Killers play out in a similar way. Yes their power maters but it's only about the details rather than your fundamental approach.
M2 Killers are fundamentally different in how you approach a chase against them in one way or another. How depends on the Killer.
Hillbilly is the strongest M1 Killer. And yes he's an M1 Killer, he has to deal with all of the standard chase mechanics/
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@ClogWench it’s not about downing survivors with their power but rather about the strength or perceived strength of the power. Also the ability to use that power efficiently and in more situations either makes them m1 or not.
i.e. Nurse can use her power anytime to counter most survivor escape tactics without much drawback, it also gives great mobility. Same for spirit.
Trapper requires you to get the trap, place it, not step in it yourself (drawback of the power) and then the survivor has to step in it.
same for leatherface, it’s an instant down but you can’t touch other terrain (drawback) and you have to get right on the survivor to use it. Promotes camping of hooks.
make sense?
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Dont get me wrong, I understand what it means, it's just an arbitrary and misleading term that gives false impressions about various killers snd is wholly unnecessary
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M1 Killers always meant to me that killers can't injure or down with their power.
For example - Spirit is an M1 killer for me because her phasing, while useful, doesn't really injure survivors directly.
Trapper is a bit more in a grey area, since his power does injure and with the right add-ons he can down survivors, even though his traps are garbage.
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See nurse and spirit use their powers and right after the blink is finished or during reappearance timing they follow up with an attack... they're not forced to follow through the loops and M1 like wraith and freddy are.... the perfect example is freddy in his current state or even wraith without addons both have powers that dont benefit them during a chase-----> M1 killer...
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But then that's still an arbitrary definition cause it's vague what does and doesn't benefit a killer in a chase. Does that mean Trapper isn't an M1 cause he can turn off a loop? Is Clown then not M1 because his power slows survivors in chases?
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Killers that HAVE TO use m1 attack to down survivor.
Usually it is used as negative so killers who are good and technically "m 1 killers" (nurse, spirit) are not mentioned.
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the term "M1" comes because the left click of your "Mouse" is determinate as M1 and right click of your "Mouse" is M2, then when we talk about M1 killers means killers that cannot down survivor using "M2" but only with "M1". There exist killer that are stronger enough and are not called as "M1" killer, as the nurse, but they are M1 killers.
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Is that the game recognizing those as different attacks, or is that the game rewarding you for the same attack at a specific point?
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M1 killers are the cluster of 115% ms killers that have no map pressure.
Trapper, Wraith, Myers, Pig, Clown, Freddy, Doctor, Plague, Ghost Face, Legion, Cannibal
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So then why give them a nonsense name like M1 killer
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I just take it as the killers that rely almost solely on their ability to chase and hit survivors normally.
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The name is a bit nonsense but it is trying to describe something genuine.
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I consider a true M1 Killer to be any Killer who, without the use of perks or add-ons, has no way to injure, down, and/or hook a Survivor beyond swinging at them with a normal, unaltered M1 swing of your weapon or by grabbing them while they are busy.
So for me, M1 Killers are:
Wraith
Nurse
Hag
Doctor
Freddy
Clown
Spirit
Trapper is largely an M1 Killer but can technically injure with the Bear Trap and hook if he can make the grab (so he gets away with it on a technicality), Hillbilly has chainsaw, Myers can alter his M1 attack with his power, Leatherface has chainsaw, Huntress has Hatchets, Pig has Ambush, Legion has Feral Frenzy, Plague has Purge (Vile can effectively injure, and Corrupt can injure+down), and Ghostface can alter his attack.
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An M1 killer is a killer whose power doesn't actively help them during a chase.
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m1 means mouse 1 which is the attack button on PC. m1 killer is someone who's power doesn't help in a chase and thus when they chase they have to rely purely on chasing and m1ing. So myers and ghostface are m1 killers cuz their powers only expose. Huntress, billy, and nurse are examples of non m1 killers because they use their powers frequently and to great effect throghout a chase. Clown is widely considered an m1 killer too because while his bottles are used a lot and to good effect in a chase, smart survivors just drop pallets earlier making him a slightly better m1 killer.
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@TAG I have never seen anyone with this definition of M1 killer lol. No one using the term 'M1 killer' will be referring to Nurse, Hag or Spirit.
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Made an account just to agree with Clog here.
As a survivor main, I only ever hear dumb people use M1 as an insult to a killer they don't like that's attacking with their standard attack. Which, you know, makes no sense since all the killers have a basic attack.
"He's just an M1 killer, he sucks, that's why he caught me twice already." - litterally been said
Barely related, but they say survivors complain about everything. All I ever see looking at these threads that Google constantly reccomends are a bunch of killer mains whining. EVERY. TIME.
I barely ever play killer, but when I do I almost always get 3-4 kills. Playing different killers. Playing fairly with no tunnels, camping, etc. Playing NURSE ON CONSOLE. Half the time without blinking but a handful of times. If you're having such a hard time catching people that you're calling for the devs to change how the game works entirely, you're probably doing something wrong.
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There is a person several posts above mine that considers Spirit an M1 Killer.
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Every Killer.
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Any killer who called effectively use their power to down.
For example piggy can down people with her ambush but it's not effective enough to be your main way of inflicting damage. Like nurse blink or hatchets
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