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Nerf Killer Collision

PinkEricka
PinkEricka Member Posts: 1,042
edited July 2019 in General Discussions


This video has 2 clips in it, I just pieced them together. She had us blocked in the corner 5 minutes more than what is being shown. So we spent at least 15 minutes being piled up in a corner?

It was absolutely ridiculous. Report system is also trash on here so there’s no point.

They need to nerf it to where if the killer is standing in one place for x amount of seconds/minutes or whatever, you should be able to go right through them or would that be too unrealistic?

but not as unrealistic as having aura reading bugs, sprint burst bugs, etc etc etc. 🙃

end of the video is when we get out, enjoy.

Comments

  • martin27
    martin27 Member Posts: 700

    No they don't need to nerf anything, nerfing isn't the answer to every problem. i will say that the reporting system could be better and bans need to be harsher

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,684

    The bugs of this game are abit rediculous, but...you KINDA cornered yourself right infront of the killer. Im not trying to defend a killer who's taking a game hostage, but that was an obvious move. Wouldnt really call it a nerf, but if they removed collision after pressing against a killer for...a minute... I think that would be fine. Would allow someone to wait out the timers of DS or BT, but avoid moments like this.

  • PinkEricka
    PinkEricka Member Posts: 1,042

    @martin27 I play on PS4 and I have never ever seen a single person get banned on there.

    There used to be farmers running around and they never got banned for it.

    They need to set up some sort of system where a majority of people that play the game vote and get to decide who’s innocent and guilty on reports if the devs don’t want to implement bans themselves. I’m sure people who actually care about this game will find the time

    Its hard to explain but I saw it on this old game I used to play called Town Of Salem. I don’t think it would work right with this game though, there’s a lot of bias people.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,684

    @Redcum I feel like that would last like a week. Ppl would rejoice at first at killers not being able to block them in a corner. Then theyd realize they cant loop for ######### anymore and remember that other survivors have been sandbagging them in the corner for years with THEIR hitbox sizes and it didnt actually change anything there.

  • PinkEricka
    PinkEricka Member Posts: 1,042
    edited July 2019

    @LordGlint I understand it’s my fault for going in the corner but at the same time it really isn’t.

    She was chasing the random and the random decided to get into the corner with me.. that I don’t know why they would do that since the corner isn’t big enough for both of us to hide stealthy... but yeah, the killer turned back and saw her standing out from the corner.

    Thats still not an excuse to take the game hostage though. She could’ve just hit us out, not block it.

  • martin27
    martin27 Member Posts: 700

    You're right it wouldn't work, we can't even keep a dislike button. My point still stands nerfing everything isn't the answer, people need to stop with the nerfing post and be doing them to improve stuff.

  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Member, Administrator, Mod Posts: 17,924
    edited July 2019

    @PinkEricka Did you report in game and contacted support or did you just report in game?

  • martin27
    martin27 Member Posts: 700

    The post sounds like they didn't bother with reporting which in it's self makes things worse

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,684

    @PinkEricka I clearly said it wasnt an excuse to take the game hostage. If your collecting crows, something is wrong.

  • Saitamfed
    Saitamfed Member Posts: 1,622

    I was going to say "maybe the killer was away from keyboard" but it seems that the killer was there, I mean he even moved.


    @LordGlint well, you can get cornered yourself but that doesn't mean a killer should take a game hostage and we are not even talking about DS or BT (meaning the timer run out) because the killer cornered them for more than 5 mins or so.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,684

    @Saitamfed And I already said in the post you linked that it wasnt an excuse to take the game hostage.

  • PinkEricka
    PinkEricka Member Posts: 1,042

    @Sairek I already said it was a bad idea, but it could become a good idea if it had a few tweaks to it.

    Maybe they could handpick people on here to do reports and gradually expand. There’s not that’s many veterans on here as there used to be but that doesn’t mean all the non bias people are gone!

  • martin27
    martin27 Member Posts: 700

    If 50% of the playerbase decided to ignore using the report system then the devs are going to think the problems aren't as bad as they are. Then they're going to focus their efforts on what looks like the bigger problems. Letting people like that killer get away with it for longer.

  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Member, Administrator, Mod Posts: 17,924

    There's a procedure to follow, you report in game, if you have additional evidence about something reportable you contact support here: support.deadbydaylight.com .

    What happened to you was reportable and you had video evidence, you only had to follow the procedure.

  • Alfred
    Alfred Member Posts: 272

    But if they nerf it how will you loop killer?

  • Dustin
    Dustin Member Posts: 2,321

    In my opinion when you get crows you should get soft collisions where as a survivor you're able to just phase through the killer like when they M1 you. I'm sure a lot of people could say it's unnecessary but it would prevent rares cases like these from happening.

    Absolutely zero logical reason you'd want to box a player in one spot for more than 15 or so seconds. Maybe for BT or Pig RBT shenanigans but there's absolutely no other reason for it and those two niche situations are negligible.

    Also my counter argument to this not being necessary because we have the report system. In the current system yes you can report but your game is already ruined because you were held hostage. If AFK crows removed collision with killer you wouldn't have these specific hostage scenarios where the report would be necessary.

  • PinkEricka
    PinkEricka Member Posts: 1,042
    edited July 2019

    @Sairek I don’t think there’s any possible way this game could get better then. Endless bugs that take way too long than it should to be fixed and queue times that are pretty much ######### at times.

    One person that I do know for certain that I don’t understand that they don’t remove as a Fog Whisperer is TrueTalent. When Legion got nerfed, he started showing off on Twitter insulting the devs instead of just giving a precise reason of why he disagreed with the nerfs. I don’t watch him but I’ve watched a few of his videos and most of it was just him complaining about things. He set a bad impression for me.

  • martin27
    martin27 Member Posts: 700

    I don't know who these fog whisper's are but i've heard plenty of people complain about them.

  • Dustin
    Dustin Member Posts: 2,321


    Plenty of fog whisperers have said negative things about BHVR. Tru3 does actually explain things in depth on his stream. Issue is he doesn't repeat them at times so when he references what he's talked about before it's lost on some people.

    I don't always agree with tru3 but stuff is definitely taken out of context from his stream.

  • PinkEricka
    PinkEricka Member Posts: 1,042

    @EntityDispleased It doesn’t matter if i set myself up to be cornered, it doesn’t give them a pass to take the game hostage.

    The corner is basically a hiding spot most of the time for totems anyways. Same thing with enclosed walls with a gap.

    If i got trapped in the basement, the comments that everyone is commenting now would still be the same except the fact that I went into a corner.

  • PinkEricka
    PinkEricka Member Posts: 1,042

    @Alfred It’s a suggestion that if the killer is standing still for x amount of seconds/minutes, they will become passable.

    Once they start to move, they will have collision again.

  • DrDeepwound
    DrDeepwound Member Posts: 2,557

    Seems like a good hiding spot


    /sarcasm

  • PinkEricka
    PinkEricka Member Posts: 1,042
    edited July 2019

    @martin27 They stream on Twitch. People look down on them because they’re able to get away with things that the community isn’t supposedly allowed to do like DC’ing.

    Devs say they will ban people from DC’ing but when the fog streamers do it, they don’t do anything to them. Favoritism.

    Most fog streamers stream on twitch. I like JenDenise and Morf_UK. I don’t think Morf ever does anything wrong, though. He’s a very funny British streamer

  • PinkEricka
    PinkEricka Member Posts: 1,042

    @DrDeepwound obviously not. I wouldn’t have gotten found if the random hadn’t decided to squeeze in with me while they were getting chased.

    just because I hid there doesnt give the killer the incentive to trap me in there. they could’ve just hit both of us out.

  • DaS_only
    DaS_only Member Posts: 656

    This is actually not a nerf a at all but a QoL change.

    Killer standing on one are for let's say 60 seconds -> body collision is removed like myers and trapped survivors can get out of the hostage situation. Simple.

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243

    @PinkEricka

    They still haven't opened my support ticket from the last time I played Dead by Daylight. I even have video proof, and I still don't know why it's taking this long. 😭

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807

    Just reduce the Killers base collision. Ez

  • Ashkiin
    Ashkiin Member Posts: 52

    Collision fading after something like 2 minutes without moving could work. For both killers and survivors. it isnt that easy to do but doable. Don't know why you both went there or didnt dc until when she grabbed you tho. But that's besides the poiht I guess

  • Saitamfed
    Saitamfed Member Posts: 1,622

    @NuclearBurrito Is not that easy, in the end you need all the killers have the same base collision and it will be hard because some survivors then can pass through you as a killer wich will make it harder for killers to hit you.

  • ReikoMori
    ReikoMori Member Posts: 3,333

    Yeah chief, you shouldn't try to hide in a spot where you can make a retreat from. They did hold you hostage for a while it seems which is a foul. Though, picking a hiding spot that you can't secure an exit out of if things go wrong is what will get you killed or in this case trapped. Just consider this a learning exercise as DBD isn't going to get any better.

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807

    Just reduce ALL Killers base collision then. I didn't say we would just reduce one of them.

  • PinkEricka
    PinkEricka Member Posts: 1,042

    @ReikoMori @Ashkiin

    They were a random. They were getting chased and then decided to get in the corner with me knowing that the chase hadn’t fully broke yet.

  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994


    On console it is significantly more difficult to perform the steps required to submit this evidence, than it is on PC. It’s much easier to record the entire the match after the fact (press 2 buttons), but the UI in the game absolutely sucks, has been reported an untold amount of times, and all we hear is, “We’ll look into it.” This has been going on for 2 years, so excuse us if we don’t believe that anyone is “looking into it”.

    P.S. We can connect a keyboard to the PS4, we can use the mobile app to act as our keyboard as well, so there is absolutely no valid reason for not allowing us to have the same UI that the PC does and enter text.

    P.P.S. If there was an email sent to us after the report is made, and/or a report number, it would be significantly easier to follow up with the link(s) to videos or other evidence.

  • Clopotel
    Clopotel Member Posts: 98

    Why did you just stay 8 minutes in there, just to dc when he gets you after 5 seconds later? You like to waste your time, i see.

  • PinkEricka
    PinkEricka Member Posts: 1,042

    @Clopotel LOL. I wasn’t wasting my time. I was studying for the ASVAB while playing plus I still wanted my points.

    I also wanted to see how long they would block us in. My time was not wasted at all. If anything, it gave me the opportunity to study more efficiently without having to keep looking up.

  • PrincessPoop
    PrincessPoop Member Posts: 919

    This is the best solution imo and I can’t think of any downsides to it.