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A tier list of what type of buffs each killer needs

Seltas0208
Seltas0208 Member Posts: 1,056
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  • se05239
    se05239 Member Posts: 3,919

    Huntress and Shape don't really need a buff, to be honest. They're really balanced. I'd say neither Hag and Spirit needs changes as well.

  • Seltas0208
    Seltas0208 Member Posts: 1,056

    I think myres and huntress needs a slight buff to keep up with the newer maps and line of sight blockers.

    I think hag needs the deafening add on tweaking and maybe a few of her gimmick add ons to be less niche

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 9,789

    I think this whole chart is completely useless, since it gives no indication on how each killer is lacking.

  • Seltas0208
    Seltas0208 Member Posts: 1,056

    Well I'm sorry that I can't spend hours writing down how to buff every killer without making them too strong. If you want to do better then go ahead, make your own tier list with explanations on every single placement if you have the time :)

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 9,789

    If you dont intend on taking the time to present anything meaningful, why bother presenting a completely pointless chart?

  • Seltas0208
    Seltas0208 Member Posts: 1,056

    Because maybe I want to see peoples reactions to it? And maybe when I do have more time I'll make a more in depth post with reasonings. Spekaing of which what is your opinions on the placements?

  • ArecBalrin
    ArecBalrin Member Posts: 636

    What standards are we applying?

    If we're applying survivor-standards; the Nurse needs to be in the top and Trapper needs heavy nerfs.

    I agree partially with @LordGlint in regards to the chart not giving detail, but I guess the purpose is to generate discussion about that and whether characters should be moved around.

    If we apply fair standards(killer-standards), then what seems clear from the chart is how it represents the need for a higher skill-ceiling on most killers: they should all be harder to play, but there should be a proper return on the investment.

    This would help low-rank survivors that are struggling(against low-effort killers that have it easier by default) but give killers back some control of the matches at higher-ranks.

  • Seltas0208
    Seltas0208 Member Posts: 1,056

    I couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks :)

    And I'll make another post going into detail but I didn't even notice that the easier killers were nearer the top of this tier list thanks for pointing that out

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 9,789

    Thats just because the "easier" killers tend to be pretty shallow. Theres only so much you can do when your bag of tricks so to speak is non-existent. Ppl have been talking about even small things. like letting cannibal be able to feather his chainsaw at pallet loops like Billy can. This would allow him to play some mind game, instead of being stuck in an animation when he puts the saw back down.

  • DrDeepwound
    DrDeepwound Member Posts: 2,557
    edited July 2019

    edited

  • Ember_Hunter
    Ember_Hunter Member Posts: 1,693

    THis tierlist is actually really accurate, though not sure about addons (except Nurse? I don't know)

  • Seltas0208
    Seltas0208 Member Posts: 1,056

    Difugured ear and he grandma's heart. That's all I wanna mess with please don't crucify me

  • Seltas0208
    Seltas0208 Member Posts: 1,056

    Spirit - prayer beads

    Billy - the add ons that nobody uses and maybe the charge speed add ons and please give him two ultra rares (ocd)

    Hag - disfigured ear and grandma's heart

    Nurse - see litteraly every complaint thread about a high skill cap killer being strong. And 2 ultra rares (ocd strikes again) in addition to making plaid flannel a common add on

  • xChrisx
    xChrisx Member Posts: 917

    Nurse need a tremendous nerf

  • mistar_z
    mistar_z Member Posts: 857
    edited July 2019


    Yeah why don't we just start off the matches with the survivors already being downed.


    Huntress just got a buff with the lullaby change. Not going into why the killers need a buff lame and lazy.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 9,789

    @mistar_z Not a bad idea, would help make deerstalker more meta... JK, lol

  • mistar_z
    mistar_z Member Posts: 857

    @LordGlint oh gosh.

  • ArecBalrin
    ArecBalrin Member Posts: 636

    No, she needs huge buffs: most players are in low-ranks and Nurse has the worst performance in low-ranks consistently.

    The only way nerfs for Nurse can even conceivably ever be on the table is if:

    1. A consensus forms that the game should not be designed and balanced around most players, but at the top-level, where Nurse dominates.
    2. That this applies to the whole game, not just killer selectively; the same standards apply across the board, including survivors.
    3. All the implications of that are followed-through with consistently.

    This means huge buffs for most killers, re-designs of base game features and survivors finally being forced to change their playstyle away from extended chases, killer-stalling and killer-griefing.

    Survivors have been against all of this for 3 years. They're quite comfortable with double-standards and unfairness.