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3 Gen Strategy

whyareyoutunnelingme
whyareyoutunnelingme Member Posts: 35
in General Discussions

Been a survivor main since the start, but I'm just starting to play killer. One thing I learned as a survivor is how difficult it can be to counter a killer using the 3 gen strat at the end. Especially on maps like Pale Rose, where you can have the last 3 literally beside each other.
As a new killer, is this a viable strategy? Keep my presence around a select few generators and set up for an intense end game?
I can confirm that as a survivor main facing this it can be infuriatingly difficult to finish that last gen. Is it considered toxic to use this strategy? Or is it just not worth it at all to put most of the heat on your end game and just try to keep as few generators from getting powered as possible? TIA

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  • Doom_Punk
    Doom_Punk Member Posts: 371

    If the Killer you're using can benefit from it, like Doctor or sometimes Trapper, I'd say it's worth it. You'll have to juggle between hooking people and protecting the gens though, but it's completely viable.

    The Survivors will likely produce a salt mine if you keep the gens on lock and kill them all though, but if you feel like giving it a go, go for it.

  • Mr_Jay_Stark
    Mr_Jay_Stark Member Posts: 539
    I read on steam forums that there was a HUGE debate on this and you can possibly be banned? (doing a 3-gen strat) Is that true? (asking for a friend)
  • whyareyoutunnelingme
    whyareyoutunnelingme Member Posts: 35

    I'm switching to killer to get away from those toxic killers. I don't intend to play this way, just as a survivor, I'm wondering why this isn't used more by killers (that don't care they're ruining someone's gameplay by camping 30 seconds into the match).

  • whyareyoutunnelingme
    whyareyoutunnelingme Member Posts: 35

    @only1biggs said:
    DON'T do this. It's absolute cancer and it will not improve your game.

    Please, for the love of god, don't do it.

    It's essentially holding the game hostage, especially with a Doc and the ######### build.

    I understand where you are coming from, but from another perspective, is this not actually more fair to the survivor who would normally be tunnelled and camped 2 minutes in? At least this way the survivor team can get a fair amount of bp within the time frame of getting 4/5 gens up.

  • whyareyoutunnelingme
    whyareyoutunnelingme Member Posts: 35

    @Mr_Jay_Stark said:
    I read on steam forums that there was a HUGE debate on this and you can possibly be banned? (doing a 3-gen strat) Is that true? (asking for a friend)

    Interesting, I'd like to know as well, I don't see how it would be bannable unless you're simply not allowing survivors to leave the game. And since allowing the last gen to pop is obviously very counter intuitive to killer goal, I can't see that being punishable.
    Besides, I'm sure you've heard all of the commotion about the streamers who actively admit to lag switching and speed builds with video evidence that still play daily. Banning in a loose term in this game, IMO

  • only1biggs
    only1biggs Member Posts: 1,178

    @whyareyoutunnelingme said:

    @only1biggs said:
    DON'T do this. It's absolute cancer and it will not improve your game.

    Please, for the love of god, don't do it.

    It's essentially holding the game hostage, especially with a Doc and the ######### build.

    I understand where you are coming from, but from another perspective, is this not actually more fair to the survivor who would normally be tunnelled and camped 2 minutes in? At least this way the survivor team can get a fair amount of bp within the time frame of getting 4/5 gens up.

    3 gen strat usually means no chases and it's just boring, no matter how many points you get...you can get more points moving onto another game.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @whyareyoutunnelingme said:
    Been a survivor main since the start, but I'm just starting to play killer. One thing I learned as a survivor is how difficult it can be to counter a killer using the 3 gen strat at the end. Especially on maps like Pale Rose, where you can have the last 3 literally beside each other.
    As a new killer, is this a viable strategy? Keep my presence around a select few generators and set up for an intense end game?
    I can confirm that as a survivor main facing this it can be infuriatingly difficult to finish that last gen. Is it considered toxic to use this strategy? Or is it just not worth it at all to put most of the heat on your end game and just try to keep as few generators from getting powered as possible? TIA

    Usually it works against those teams you would have beat by playing normal too.
    IT doesnt work agianst coordinated SWF which would have bullied you in a normal game anyway

    So it doesnt change anything, but from my perspective it is a really boring strategy

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Mr_Jay_Stark said:
    I read on steam forums that there was a HUGE debate on this and you can possibly be banned? (doing a 3-gen strat) Is that true? (asking for a friend)

    No you cant get banned

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    You can get banned if all your're doing is just chasing them off the gens but not actually trying to harm them.. That's considered holding the game hostage by the devs themselves. I was on the Pale Rose map against a Doctor that used that strategy where the 3 gens were really close together. He always keep people off those with a super extended terror radius. While he did hook and sac 1 person he always made sure he kept those 3 from being done.

    Myself and the other 2 solo queue survivors kept trying to do 1 of the 3 to ge gates powered and it took us over 20 minutes of going back and forth of being chased and occasionally hit 1 x but never chased far to get the gen done. The doctor could've easily just chased 1 of us and gotten way more points by doing that and queuing up.

  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,600
    edited July 2018

    I don't purposely go for this unless I happen to notice I have potential for one when I'm down to 4 generators on the map. Then it just makes more strategic sense to let the outlying generator go so I can defend the last 3.

    If I'm going to do a 3 gen strat, my intention is to indeed go for the kill. I know eventually they will run out of pallets and I'll catch somebody in a mistake and get that down I'm after.

    The 3 gen strat is totally preventable - survivors just refuse to take this into consideration when they are popping gens. Listen, you are given every piece of information you need to prevent this situation. Every generator has lights up on a pole so you can see them front a distance - every house that has a generator has flickering lights, The Game has closed doors next to every generator. Use that information to "leap frog" the gens you pop and you'll almost never find yourself in this situation.

    This is especially important in Asarov's Resting Place and Suffication Pit which splits the map into easily defined areas. Don't do all the gens in one area on those maps, you are just asking for the killer to get a 3 gen nest and ruin your day.

    Is it toxic? No - it's a failure on the part of the survivors who hold all the power in this game to prevent this from happening in the first place. If you allow this to happen, you deserve to have a long and torturous end-game.

  • only1biggs
    only1biggs Member Posts: 1,178

    @azazer said:
    only1biggs said:

    DON'T do this. It's absolute cancer and it will not improve your game.

    Please, for the love of god, don't do it.

    It's essentially holding the game hostage, especially with a Doc and the ######### build.

    This better be hyperbole. If you fall into this trap it's the survivor's fault. Like almost everything in this game its on the survivors to make the mistake. If anyone is holding the game hostage, its survivors making the choice not to do the objective. No one is preventing you from doing anything like a killer body blocking the basement. Go back to the survivor forum.

    I main killer and don't complain about everything and I don't 3 gen.. If a killer wants to 3 gen, they find 3 gens and guard them...how are the survivors supposed to get to those 3 gens?

    Go back to the mental health forum.

  • Someissues
    Someissues Member Posts: 1,604
    edited July 2018

    3 gens can be easily countered though, once he picked or focus on someone you can work on the other 2 gens.

    He won't be able to hold out nor stop 3-4 of you doing gens at all time, eventually, the progress of gens will only rise up

    A Killer can't really do much nor stop all of you from doing a single gen, unless the gens are literally next to each other

    Protecting generators is not bannable as long as he's willing to hit someone and is still killing people. 3 gens is a strat and it is a poor one

    @Doom_Punk said:
    @whyareyoutunnelingme @Mr_Jay_Stark In regards to that, it is not at all bannable, UNLESS you take it so far as to not even attempt to kill anyone.

    Then all Killers who were farmers should be perma-banned

    I have slug and leaves all surviors on the ground bleeding to death for Derank over hundred of times if not thousands, it's not bannable in any means since it's how the game is meant to be played with a slug build and slugging is legit, you don't have to hook them

  • azazer
    azazer Member Posts: 446
    only1biggs said:

    @azazer said:
    only1biggs said:

    DON'T do this. It's absolute cancer and it will not improve your game.

    Please, for the love of god, don't do it.

    It's essentially holding the game hostage, especially with a Doc and the ######### build.

    This better be hyperbole. If you fall into this trap it's the survivor's fault. Like almost everything in this game its on the survivors to make the mistake. If anyone is holding the game hostage, its survivors making the choice not to do the objective. No one is preventing you from doing anything like a killer body blocking the basement. Go back to the survivor forum.

    I main killer and don't complain about everything and I don't 3 gen.. If a killer wants to 3 gen, they find 3 gens and guard them...how are the survivors supposed to get to those 3 gens?

    Go back to the mental health forum.

    So you're claiming to be a killer main which means you have limited time as a survivor. It sounds like you and the rank 20s you're playing with need to git gud. If 4 survivors can't complete 1 of 3 gens it isn't because of some god tier killer 4D chess, you just suck as survivor and lack the situational awareness to not fall for a 3 gen strat
  • only1biggs
    only1biggs Member Posts: 1,178

    @azazer said:
    only1biggs said:

    @azazer said:

    only1biggs said:

    DON'T do this. It's absolute cancer and it will not improve your game.

Please, for the love of god, don't do it.

It's essentially holding the game hostage, especially with a Doc and the ######### build.

    This better be hyperbole. If you fall into this trap it's the survivor's fault. Like almost everything in this game its on the survivors to make the mistake. If anyone is holding the game hostage, its survivors making the choice not to do the objective. No one is preventing you from doing anything like a killer body blocking the basement. Go back to the survivor forum.

    I main killer and don't complain about everything and I don't 3 gen.. If a killer wants to 3 gen, they find 3 gens and guard them...how are the survivors supposed to get to those 3 gens?

    Go back to the mental health forum.

    So you're claiming to be a killer main which means you have limited time as a survivor. It sounds like you and the rank 20s you're playing with need to git gud. If 4 survivors can't complete 1 of 3 gens it isn't because of some god tier killer 4D chess, you just suck as survivor and lack the situational awareness to not fall for a 3 gen strat

    I main killer, I also play a lot of survivor. Both at high ranks.

    I know how to stop a 3 gen strat, others might not. I queue alone. Countering a 3 gen set up is possible, but if a killer picks 3 from the start and guards them, it becomes tedious really fast.

    But please, assume away.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @powerbats said:
    You can get banned if all your're doing is just chasing them off the gens but not actually trying to harm them.. That's considered holding the game hostage by the devs themselves. I was on the Pale Rose map against a Doctor that used that strategy where the 3 gens were really close together. He always keep people off those with a super extended terror radius. While he did hook and sac 1 person he always made sure he kept those 3 from being done.

    Myself and the other 2 solo queue survivors kept trying to do 1 of the 3 to ge gates powered and it took us over 20 minutes of going back and forth of being chased and occasionally hit 1 x but never chased far to get the gen done. The doctor could've easily just chased 1 of us and gotten way more points by doing that and queuing up.

    It is not and we have confirmation, I dare to provide official source stating otherwise.

    The killer objective is to kill survivors and to prevent them from doing gens.
    Protecting his gens is not holding the game hostage

    In fact, survivors that dont try to do gens if the doc 3-gen strats them, are holding the game hostage becuase they are not doing their objective and are just hiding somewhere

  • azazer
    azazer Member Posts: 446
    only1biggs said:

    @azazer said:
    only1biggs said:

    @azazer said:

    only1biggs said:

    DON'T do this. It's absolute cancer and it will not improve your game.

Please, for the love of god, don't do it.

It's essentially holding the game hostage, especially with a Doc and the ######### build.

    This better be hyperbole. If you fall into this trap it's the survivor's fault. Like almost everything in this game its on the survivors to make the mistake. If anyone is holding the game hostage, its survivors making the choice not to do the objective. No one is preventing you from doing anything like a killer body blocking the basement. Go back to the survivor forum.

    I main killer and don't complain about everything and I don't 3 gen.. If a killer wants to 3 gen, they find 3 gens and guard them...how are the survivors supposed to get to those 3 gens?

    Go back to the mental health forum.

    So you're claiming to be a killer main which means you have limited time as a survivor. It sounds like you and the rank 20s you're playing with need to git gud. If 4 survivors can't complete 1 of 3 gens it isn't because of some god tier killer 4D chess, you just suck as survivor and lack the situational awareness to not fall for a 3 gen strat

    I main killer, I also play a lot of survivor. Both at high ranks.

    I know how to stop a 3 gen strat, others might not. I queue alone. Countering a 3 gen set up is possible, but if a killer picks 3 from the start and guards them, it becomes tedious really fast.

    But please, assume away.

    Then don't claim to be a main. It sounds like you are changing your story just to try and justify your garbage perspective. If you know how to counter, why ask how a survivor is supposed to beat it? You know how, or at least claim to. You've invalidated your own argument. 
  • only1biggs
    only1biggs Member Posts: 1,178
    edited July 2018

    @azazer said:
    only1biggs said:

    @azazer said:

    only1biggs said:

    @azazer said:

only1biggs said:

    DON'T do this. It's absolute cancer and it will not improve your game. Please, for the love of god, don't do it. It's essentially holding the game hostage, especially with a Doc and the ######### build.

    This better be hyperbole. If you fall into this trap it's the survivor's fault. Like almost everything in this game its on the survivors to make the mistake. If anyone is holding the game hostage, its survivors making the choice not to do the objective. No one is preventing you from doing anything like a killer body blocking the basement. Go back to the survivor forum.



I main killer and don't complain about everything and I don't 3 gen.. If a killer wants to 3 gen, they find 3 gens and guard them...how are the survivors supposed to get to those 3 gens?

Go back to the mental health forum.

    So you're claiming to be a killer main which means you have limited time as a survivor. It sounds like you and the rank 20s you're playing with need to git gud. If 4 survivors can't complete 1 of 3 gens it isn't because of some god tier killer 4D chess, you just suck as survivor and lack the situational awareness to not fall for a 3 gen strat

    I main killer, I also play a lot of survivor. Both at high ranks.

    I know how to stop a 3 gen strat, others might not. I queue alone. Countering a 3 gen set up is possible, but if a killer picks 3 from the start and guards them, it becomes tedious really fast.

    But please, assume away.

    Then don't claim to be a main. It sounds like you are changing your story just to try and justify your garbage perspective. If you know how to counter, why ask how a survivor is supposed to beat it? You know how, or at least claim to. You've invalidated your own argument. 

    You really need to learn to read.

    By your logic, a "killer main" can't play survivor at all.

    I said, "I know how to counter...others do not". By others I should say most, considering the majority of the playerbase is brain dead, as you have so wonderfully proven just now.

    I didn't and have not changed my story. 3 gen strat is boring.

  • Chi
    Chi Member Posts: 781

    @whyareyoutunnelingme said:
    I'm switching to killer to get away from those toxic killers. I don't intend to play this way, just as a survivor, I'm wondering why this isn't used more by killers (that don't care they're ruining someone's gameplay by camping 30 seconds into the match).

    Because of a few reasons... It can be countered and it can make the game take triple the time it would normally take. I don't really think anyone wants that. I hate accidentally getting a 3-gen as killer. One time I was stuck in the match for 30 minutes...

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Chi said:

    @whyareyoutunnelingme said:
    I'm switching to killer to get away from those toxic killers. I don't intend to play this way, just as a survivor, I'm wondering why this isn't used more by killers (that don't care they're ruining someone's gameplay by camping 30 seconds into the match).

    Because of a few reasons... It can be countered and it can make the game take triple the time it would normally take. I don't really think anyone wants that. I hate accidentally getting a 3-gen as killer. One time I was stuck in the match for 30 minutes...

    Now you know how a killer feels when the last survivor is holding you hostage^^

  • Sehkmet
    Sehkmet Member Posts: 127
    edited July 2018

    its just a strategy, as survivor you should scout the map and try to sneak into generators that are close together.. they are reworking a new perk JUST FOR THAT, AKA IS LEGGIT.

    (check PTB Kindred deja vu rework)

    Post edited by Sehkmet on
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Master said:

    @powerbats said:
    You can get banned if all your're doing is just chasing them off the gens but not actually trying to harm them.. That's considered holding the game hostage by the devs themselves. I was on the Pale Rose map against a Doctor that used that strategy where the 3 gens were really close together. He always keep people off those with a super extended terror radius. While he did hook and sac 1 person he always made sure he kept those 3 from being done.

    Myself and the other 2 solo queue survivors kept trying to do 1 of the 3 to ge gates powered and it took us over 20 minutes of going back and forth of being chased and occasionally hit 1 x but never chased far to get the gen done. The doctor could've easily just chased 1 of us and gotten way more points by doing that and queuing up.

    It is not and we have confirmation, I dare to provide official source stating otherwise.

    The killer objective is to kill survivors and to prevent them from doing gens.
    Protecting his gens is not holding the game hostage

    In fact, survivors that dont try to do gens if the doc 3-gen strats them, are holding the game hostage becuase they are not doing their objective and are just hiding somewhere

    There was a dev stream can't remember the one but I'll try and find it where they discussed that because you're not actually trying to hook survivors. It's similar to simply blocking someone in the basement but not whacking them.

    By the argument of not letting them do gens only and not actively even trying to kill them then the killer isn't fulfilling their objective are they? If the killer only does 1 of the 2 in'st that the same as simply blocking them in the basement abut not hitting them? Both actions keep them from doing gens and both actions don't fulfil the objective of hooking.

    We know for an absolute fact that in 1 dev stream they've said that blocking the basement strategy is bannable. So again why would you say 1 is okay when the other isn't? Now if I'm wrong then I apologize about the 1st strategy since i might've misunderstood them.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @powerbats said:

    @Master said:

    @powerbats said:
    You can get banned if all your're doing is just chasing them off the gens but not actually trying to harm them.. That's considered holding the game hostage by the devs themselves. I was on the Pale Rose map against a Doctor that used that strategy where the 3 gens were really close together. He always keep people off those with a super extended terror radius. While he did hook and sac 1 person he always made sure he kept those 3 from being done.

    Myself and the other 2 solo queue survivors kept trying to do 1 of the 3 to ge gates powered and it took us over 20 minutes of going back and forth of being chased and occasionally hit 1 x but never chased far to get the gen done. The doctor could've easily just chased 1 of us and gotten way more points by doing that and queuing up.

    It is not and we have confirmation, I dare to provide official source stating otherwise.

    The killer objective is to kill survivors and to prevent them from doing gens.
    Protecting his gens is not holding the game hostage

    In fact, survivors that dont try to do gens if the doc 3-gen strats them, are holding the game hostage becuase they are not doing their objective and are just hiding somewhere

    There was a dev stream can't remember the one but I'll try and find it where they discussed that because you're not actually trying to hook survivors. It's similar to simply blocking someone in the basement but not whacking them.

    By the argument of not letting them do gens only and not actively even trying to kill them then the killer isn't fulfilling their objective are they? If the killer only does 1 of the 2 in'st that the same as simply blocking them in the basement abut not hitting them? Both actions keep them from doing gens and both actions don't fulfil the objective of hooking.

    We know for an absolute fact that in 1 dev stream they've said that blocking the basement strategy is bannable. So again why would you say 1 is okay when the other isn't? Now if I'm wrong then I apologize about the 1st strategy since i might've misunderstood them.

    The killers objectives are kiilling survivors and slowing down gen progress.
    Fact is taht survivors can do something against a 3 gen strat, but bodyblocking in the basement renders them afk basically. Also by bodyblocking a survivor in the basement you can drag the game to infinity which is not possible with a 3gen strat.

    And yeah, bodyblocking in the basement ist 100% bannable (has to occur quite often though before devs take action I guess)

  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,600

    @powerbats said:

    There was a dev stream can't remember the one but I'll try and find it where they discussed that because you're not actually trying to hook survivors. It's similar to simply blocking someone in the basement but not whacking them.

    By the argument of not letting them do gens only and not actively even trying to kill them then the killer isn't fulfilling their objective are they? If the killer only does 1 of the 2 in'st that the same as simply blocking them in the basement abut not hitting them? Both actions keep them from doing gens and both actions don't fulfil the objective of hooking.

    We know for an absolute fact that in 1 dev stream they've said that blocking the basement strategy is bannable. So again why would you say 1 is okay when the other isn't? Now if I'm wrong then I apologize about the 1st strategy since i might've misunderstood them.

    If I'm not chasing somebody far from the gens, then it means I don't feel I can get them down and on a hook before the last gen pops. My intention is still to down them, I'm just being smart and strategic about it.

    Often, it just comes down to prepping the immediate area with a series of short chases near the gens that get a few pesky safe pallets broken so that I can eventually catch somebody.

    I'm not going afk, my intention is to eventually kill - I'm just playing the long game instead of being a dumbass and letting myself be drawn away from one of my objectives. Only a scrub leaves the objective.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    I can understand playing the long game totally, it's just when you chase for 5 feet or so but don't actually swing or swing without actually caring whether it hits or not. On some maps it's super easy to just camp and leave all the other gens alone Pale Rose being a good one and Lery's is another.

  • Soren
    Soren Member Posts: 369

    Survivors may just as well run Déjà Vu.

  • Yuu_Incredible
    Yuu_Incredible Member Posts: 27

    I have mixed feelings about 3 gen tactics. When I play killer, I sometimes just end up with it, without aiming for it (happens on The Game often). I try to do a 3 gen tactic sometimes with trapper and hag, because they are more defensive killers. I think you can break this tactics easily as a survivor, EXCEPT you're playing against a doc. And this killer is the reason why nobody likes 3 gen tactics. His terror radius probably covers up all 3 gens. You constantly getting madness. He just pushes you madness 3, kicks the generator and starts patrolling again. No chase, no hits, Just endless suffering because you are not able to complete a generator, because you have to snap out first and/or have to do a very small skill check on a gen because he runs orvercharge and overwhelming pressence. I can see the point of "holding game hostage" here. Games shouldn't be an hour long.
    However, I highly recommend to do a 3 gen tactics on long maps (f.e. azaroths resting place), especially if you play a mid or low tier killer. There is no way you can build enough map pressure on these there.

  • Chi
    Chi Member Posts: 781

    @Master said:

    @Chi said:

    @whyareyoutunnelingme said:
    I'm switching to killer to get away from those toxic killers. I don't intend to play this way, just as a survivor, I'm wondering why this isn't used more by killers (that don't care they're ruining someone's gameplay by camping 30 seconds into the match).

    Because of a few reasons... It can be countered and it can make the game take triple the time it would normally take. I don't really think anyone wants that. I hate accidentally getting a 3-gen as killer. One time I was stuck in the match for 30 minutes...

    Now you know how a killer feels when the last survivor is holding you hostage^^

    How? By you refusing to let the hatch go and accept a 3k?

  • Runiver
    Runiver Member Posts: 2,095

    @whyareyoutunnelingme said:
    Been a survivor main since the start, but I'm just starting to play killer. One thing I learned as a survivor is how difficult it can be to counter a killer using the 3 gen strat at the end. Especially on maps like Pale Rose, where you can have the last 3 literally beside each other.
    As a new killer, is this a viable strategy? Keep my presence around a select few generators and set up for an intense end game?
    I can confirm that as a survivor main facing this it can be infuriatingly difficult to finish that last gen. Is it considered toxic to use this strategy? Or is it just not worth it at all to put most of the heat on your end game and just try to keep as few generators from getting powered as possible? TIA

    It's a pretty good strategy.
    As a survivor, however, you're supposed to try to stop that before reaching that situation, which isn't too hard usually since that, as long as you're 4 survivors, it's very hard for a killer to keep all of them in check.

  • Sehkmet
    Sehkmet Member Posts: 127
    edited July 2018

    As killer i used this strategy three times.. two times it worked and the third time two sneaky survivors could repair a generator while i was chasing another guy (although i came back and smashed the generator two times, by leaving my prey free or after hooking him/her)

    (At the first time i got a kill before they realized i was patrolling only 3 gen and 3k while they were trying to repair them)
    (The second time i used it i could win the match with any other strategy cuz the guys were noob)

    ps: also i was running a hex totem build and my totems were close to the generator in two of those matches :) )

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Chi said:

    @Master said:

    @Chi said:

    @whyareyoutunnelingme said:
    I'm switching to killer to get away from those toxic killers. I don't intend to play this way, just as a survivor, I'm wondering why this isn't used more by killers (that don't care they're ruining someone's gameplay by camping 30 seconds into the match).

    Because of a few reasons... It can be countered and it can make the game take triple the time it would normally take. I don't really think anyone wants that. I hate accidentally getting a 3-gen as killer. One time I was stuck in the match for 30 minutes...

    Now you know how a killer feels when the last survivor is holding you hostage^^

    How? By you refusing to let the hatch go and accept a 3k?

    There are some special snowflakes out there who dont want to get hatch/leave gates and instead get their joy by holding the killer as long hostage as possible :wink:
    The amount of survivors I have seen tbagging in front of me while I was afk..... you dont even wanna know

  • Chi
    Chi Member Posts: 781

    @Master said:

    @Chi said:

    @Master said:

    @Chi said:

    @whyareyoutunnelingme said:
    I'm switching to killer to get away from those toxic killers. I don't intend to play this way, just as a survivor, I'm wondering why this isn't used more by killers (that don't care they're ruining someone's gameplay by camping 30 seconds into the match).

    Because of a few reasons... It can be countered and it can make the game take triple the time it would normally take. I don't really think anyone wants that. I hate accidentally getting a 3-gen as killer. One time I was stuck in the match for 30 minutes...

    Now you know how a killer feels when the last survivor is holding you hostage^^

    How? By you refusing to let the hatch go and accept a 3k?

    There are some special snowflakes out there who dont want to get hatch/leave gates and instead get their joy by holding the killer as long hostage as possible :wink:
    The amount of survivors I have seen tbagging in front of me while I was afk..... you dont even wanna know

    Ah yeah that sucks. :/
    I just dc if they stay in the game longer than 5 minutes. But then again, I don't really care for ranking up as killer.
    It doesn't happen to me often though, does it to you?

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Chi said:

    @Master said:

    @Chi said:

    @Master said:

    @Chi said:

    @whyareyoutunnelingme said:
    I'm switching to killer to get away from those toxic killers. I don't intend to play this way, just as a survivor, I'm wondering why this isn't used more by killers (that don't care they're ruining someone's gameplay by camping 30 seconds into the match).

    Because of a few reasons... It can be countered and it can make the game take triple the time it would normally take. I don't really think anyone wants that. I hate accidentally getting a 3-gen as killer. One time I was stuck in the match for 30 minutes...

    Now you know how a killer feels when the last survivor is holding you hostage^^

    How? By you refusing to let the hatch go and accept a 3k?

    There are some special snowflakes out there who dont want to get hatch/leave gates and instead get their joy by holding the killer as long hostage as possible :wink:
    The amount of survivors I have seen tbagging in front of me while I was afk..... you dont even wanna know

    Ah yeah that sucks. :/
    I just dc if they stay in the game longer than 5 minutes. But then again, I don't really care for ranking up as killer.
    It doesn't happen to me often though, does it to you?

    Happens in roughly 70-80% of my deranking games. That a single survivor is holding me hostage in a normal try hard game, yeah that doesnt happen too often.

  • Bradcore
    Bradcore Member Posts: 68
    One of my best games ever was against the huntress. One survivor bailed as soon as the game loaded. Three against one  We worked to repair the generators and accidently made the last ones very close together. Another survivor was hooked leaving only us two and we still had to repair two more generators. It took a while but we got one. My partner was hooked trying to repair the last one. I escaped by the skin of my teeth 

    Most intense match I ever played in this game, and the most fun too. Killer did a great job and I thank them for it.
  • thekiller490490
    thekiller490490 Member Posts: 1,164
    only1biggs said:

    DON'T do this. It's absolute cancer and it will not improve your game.

    Please, for the love of god, don't do it.

    It's essentially holding the game hostage, especially with a Doc and the ######### build.

    Do it!!!!! Hold the game hostage because it is you job as a killer to do so and drag out the game. It will definitely improve your game! I turned a 1 man into a 4 man because of a three gen strat where I could stand in one spot and see all gens. Don't listen to this guy.
  • SnakeSound222
    SnakeSound222 Member Posts: 4,467

    @thekiller490490 said:
    only1biggs said:

    DON'T do this. It's absolute cancer and it will not improve your game.

    Please, for the love of god, don't do it.

    It's essentially holding the game hostage, especially with a Doc and the ######### build.

    Do it!!!!! Hold the game hostage because it is you job as a killer to do so and drag out the game. It will definitely improve your game! I turned a 1 man into a 4 man because of a three gen strat where I could stand in one spot and see all gens. Don't listen to this guy.

    Holding the game hostage is bannable. You're the one we shouldn't be listening to.

  • thekiller490490
    thekiller490490 Member Posts: 1,164
    SnakeSound222 said:


    Holding the game hostage is bannable. You're the one we shouldn't be listening to.

    Ok, I seriously didn't know that until now. Jeez
  • Zarathos
    Zarathos Member Posts: 1,911

    @powerbats said:

    @Master said:

    @powerbats said:
    You can get banned if all your're doing is just chasing them off the gens but not actually trying to harm them.. That's considered holding the game hostage by the devs themselves. I was on the Pale Rose map against a Doctor that used that strategy where the 3 gens were really close together. He always keep people off those with a super extended terror radius. While he did hook and sac 1 person he always made sure he kept those 3 from being done.

    Myself and the other 2 solo queue survivors kept trying to do 1 of the 3 to ge gates powered and it took us over 20 minutes of going back and forth of being chased and occasionally hit 1 x but never chased far to get the gen done. The doctor could've easily just chased 1 of us and gotten way more points by doing that and queuing up.

    It is not and we have confirmation, I dare to provide official source stating otherwise.

    The killer objective is to kill survivors and to prevent them from doing gens.
    Protecting his gens is not holding the game hostage

    In fact, survivors that dont try to do gens if the doc 3-gen strats them, are holding the game hostage becuase they are not doing their objective and are just hiding somewhere

    There was a dev stream can't remember the one but I'll try and find it where they discussed that because you're not actually trying to hook survivors. It's similar to simply blocking someone in the basement but not whacking them.

    By the argument of not letting them do gens only and not actively even trying to kill them then the killer isn't fulfilling their objective are they? If the killer only does 1 of the 2 in'st that the same as simply blocking them in the basement abut not hitting them? Both actions keep them from doing gens and both actions don't fulfil the objective of hooking.

    We know for an absolute fact that in 1 dev stream they've said that blocking the basement strategy is bannable. So again why would you say 1 is okay when the other isn't? Now if I'm wrong then I apologize about the 1st strategy since i might've misunderstood them.

    Ok so hold on a cheery picking minute are you saying if i choose to guard the gens instead of chasing the legacy Claudette who just sprint bursted away to a heavily loopable spot like the tree that I'm holding the game hostage. Now that some entitled bullshit. you need to bait the killer away not give him a reason to return to the gens. I was in a game with a billy who we got 3 gen strated and one of us deliberately put her ass in danger to buy us enough time to complete the gen. This was a huge gamble that payed off and we got the exits and got out. Did she die, yes she did. But someone has to take the fall for that mistake. If every survivour is too scared to go for gens then you can't beat the strat but if you all risk your lives you can win a 3 gen strat provided you have at least 3 survivors.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Zarathos said:

    Ok so hold on a cheery picking minute are you saying if i choose to guard the gens instead of chasing the legacy Claudette who just sprint bursted away to a heavily loopable spot like the tree that I'm holding the game hostage. Now that some entitled bullshit. you need to bait the killer away not give him a reason to return to the gens. I was in a game with a billy who we got 3 gen strated and one of us deliberately put her ass in danger to buy us enough time to complete the gen. This was a huge gamble that payed off and we got the exits and got out. Did she die, yes she did. But someone has to take the fall for that mistake. If every survivour is too scared to go for gens then you can't beat the strat but if you all risk your lives you can win a 3 gen strat provided you have at least 3 survivors.

    As long as you're actually trying to hit and or down to hook it's not but if all you're doing is running back and forth that's different. In several of my games one of us has sacrificed to get the gens done. But if you're not actively trying to hit survivors you're holding the game hostage. It's no different than blocking in the basement and yet not going for anyone.

  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256

    @Doom_Punk said:
    @whyareyoutunnelingme @Mr_Jay_Stark In regards to that, it is not at all bannable, UNLESS you take it so far as to not even attempt to kill anyone.

    An example, you've locked three really close gens as Doc that makes getting them really hard. But instead of killing them, you just shock them off of the gens whenever they get close and always stay in Treatment mode. This is bannable, because you can keep the game going for practically forever.

    The Doctor is just cancer to play against in general. Such a ######### design. lol

  • Zarathos
    Zarathos Member Posts: 1,911
    Eninya said:

    @Doom_Punk said:
    @whyareyoutunnelingme @Mr_Jay_Stark In regards to that, it is not at all bannable, UNLESS you take it so far as to not even attempt to kill anyone.

    An example, you've locked three really close gens as Doc that makes getting them really hard. But instead of killing them, you just shock them off of the gens whenever they get close and always stay in Treatment mode. This is bannable, because you can keep the game going for practically forever.

    The Doctor is just cancer to play against in general. Such a ######### design. lol

    I strongly disagree he's a much more varied killer then your standard fare killer. He forces players to adapt their play style making pallet looping less optimum then routing the killer across the map. The doctor encourages smart chase gameplay not simply milking every pallet drop for time. His ability to punish stealth is important as it forces survivors to not rely on a single play style to survive.

    The doc being "cancer" is a good sign that mean his gameplay feels oppressive and is a serious force to be reckoned. Doc forces survivors to adapt a routing play style that punishes survivor's who split gens poorly. Saying all that he is still a mid tier killer. If your losing to him its probably because your struggling with skill checks,gen splitting or rely to much on basic pallet looping mechanic's.

    All this makes the doc a good survivor pub stomper. High tier players will ultimately crush him as he still is vulnerable to the usual killer issues looping is still a problem for the doc as he can be heavily routed across the map. He also losing time shocking survivors instead of just hitting them. The skill checks are hardly a challenge for high tier players.
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Zarathos said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Master said:

    @powerbats said:
    You can get banned if all your're doing is just chasing them off the gens but not actually trying to harm them.. That's considered holding the game hostage by the devs themselves. I was on the Pale Rose map against a Doctor that used that strategy where the 3 gens were really close together. He always keep people off those with a super extended terror radius. While he did hook and sac 1 person he always made sure he kept those 3 from being done.

    Myself and the other 2 solo queue survivors kept trying to do 1 of the 3 to ge gates powered and it took us over 20 minutes of going back and forth of being chased and occasionally hit 1 x but never chased far to get the gen done. The doctor could've easily just chased 1 of us and gotten way more points by doing that and queuing up.

    It is not and we have confirmation, I dare to provide official source stating otherwise.

    The killer objective is to kill survivors and to prevent them from doing gens.
    Protecting his gens is not holding the game hostage

    In fact, survivors that dont try to do gens if the doc 3-gen strats them, are holding the game hostage becuase they are not doing their objective and are just hiding somewhere

    There was a dev stream can't remember the one but I'll try and find it where they discussed that because you're not actually trying to hook survivors. It's similar to simply blocking someone in the basement but not whacking them.

    By the argument of not letting them do gens only and not actively even trying to kill them then the killer isn't fulfilling their objective are they? If the killer only does 1 of the 2 in'st that the same as simply blocking them in the basement abut not hitting them? Both actions keep them from doing gens and both actions don't fulfil the objective of hooking.

    We know for an absolute fact that in 1 dev stream they've said that blocking the basement strategy is bannable. So again why would you say 1 is okay when the other isn't? Now if I'm wrong then I apologize about the 1st strategy since i might've misunderstood them.

    Ok so hold on a cheery picking minute are you saying if i choose to guard the gens instead of chasing the legacy Claudette who just sprint bursted away to a heavily loopable spot like the tree that I'm holding the game hostage. Now that some entitled bullshit. you need to bait the killer away not give him a reason to return to the gens. I was in a game with a billy who we got 3 gen strated and one of us deliberately put her ass in danger to buy us enough time to complete the gen. This was a huge gamble that payed off and we got the exits and got out. Did she die, yes she did. But someone has to take the fall for that mistake. If every survivour is too scared to go for gens then you can't beat the strat but if you all risk your lives you can win a 3 gen strat provided you have at least 3 survivors.

    Such a dev stream never existed, Im still waiting for a proof, in the old steam forums I was told by mods that 3 gen strat is fine :wink:

  • Vortexas
    Vortexas Member Posts: 757

    Yes it is a Viable Strat.

    Some killers can do it better than others though.

    I'd say for 3 Genning you'd want..

    Doc, Huntress, Nurse, or HIllbilly.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Vortexas said:
    Yes it is a Viable Strat.

    Some killers can do it better than others though.

    I'd say for 3 Genning you'd want..

    Doc, Huntress, Nurse, or HIllbilly.

    Depending on the map Doctor is the most strong for it with the gen denial build making it the hardest.