nerf nurse and spirit?
they really dont take as much skill as other killers and 5 blink,omega blink, and prayer beads are probably the best attachments in the game to rank up you should have to get good with vanilla killers (trapper,hillbilly,etc.
but maybe im just salty
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You are indeed just salty.
But leaving that aside, why nerf these Killers when your problem is with those very specific add-ons?
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Oh, "they" will come for Spirit "next."
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Nurse is going to get a slight basekit nerf and add on rework, I don’t think Spirit needs a nerf but I do hate her with a passion.
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I hope they leave spirit alone
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The only thing Spirit needs are:
1) Delete Prayer Beads. Give her something else except audio removal. It's far too strong on her
2) Revert the change where you can see grass moving while she's phasing.
Other than that she's completely balanced.
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- if the spirit didn’t take any addons, she is not even strong as my perspective.
- it is a skill survivors could achieve, they will use the grass to hide their scratch, also they should avoid the grass when facing Rin.
So what breaks the spirit is just the same what breaks the nurse
If they didn’t have any addons
they are both great killers other than power abuse machine
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I believe that spirit is the easiest killer in the game to be "good" with.
Shes brain dead easy.
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I'm glad I don't play the meta 3 killers
I don't have to deal with complaints or worry about people inevitably getting them nerfed
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Spirit and Nurse shouldn't be nerfed (glad for Nurse addon changes, some of them were broken) we need strong killers or the game will become boring and not challenging. Prayer Beads is broken, but that doesn't mean Spirit should be nerfed. I wish survivors stop hitting the nerf button on any killer instantly. (Coming from a 75% survivor main here too)
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If they touch my Spirit...
...All hell will be unleashed.
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Both take a lot of skill to master, so besides changing their add-ons, no buffs or nerfs necessary.
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Wat
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Its already happening mate. Look at nurse nerfs threads, always the same people, saying the same thing, again and again. Mentioning spirit every time.
Gg cryers.
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Nurses addons are getting changed and basekit gets a "minor?" change.
About Spirits Prayer Beads, they shouldnt exist just like many other un fun addons from both sides and I hope one day all these un fun addons get looked at.
From vanilla killers only Billy is viable and all killers should be balanced close to him to give variety of good killers.
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Also I kinda like it when I go up against prayer beads spirit. I like to be scared once in a while.
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Nurse is already getting add-on changes and base kit changes, while Spirit is fine besides some of her add-ons.
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Black box and red paint brush as well
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Told you, now it's spirits time.
Incoming nerfs, survivors have spoken
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Fact : killers are the ones slowly get killed by survivors.
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Some of truest words ever spoken!
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They already are.
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I have seen "Please Nerf Legion, Freddy, Leatherface, Piggy, Nurse, Hillybilly, Spirit, Ghostface" threads in the past few months. None of these killers should be touched besides buffs for the weaker killers and addon reworks for Spirit, Hillybilly, Nurse, and a buff to addons for Legion and Bubba.
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Only Nurse need a nerf. But only for add-ons. Good they said ,,we will not touch base power, but if we will it will be slight changes''.
Spirit is perfect. She is easy to mindgaming.
Legion needs a fuck1ng buff.
Freddy needs a slight buff.
LF needs a rework or OMEGA BUFF.
Piggy needs a buff
Hillbilly needs a nerf for insta-chainsaw, that's it.
Ghost Face needs a bug fixing, but he is perfect :pepeOK:
What do you think.
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Problem is bc people don't see double standards, for example killers screaming 2,5 years "DS OP pls nerf" and in this time survivor say "just run enduring lul", and now, take for another example Spirit, survivor scream " Spirit OP pls nerf" and now killers say "just run iron will lul". even if i agree perks like original DS,BT, Exhaustion perks should be nerfed, now they're in good place, i don't think this should be this way, when you need a perk to counter something, spirit is like opposide to legion if we're talking about first hit, this is hard for her, for legion is easy, but second hit for her is the easiest thing in the game, this shouldn't be this way
Edit: about nurse one thing" addon rework" this comming soon
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All of that seems perfect. I would give Doctor buffs too.
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Spirit has to either move grass while phasing or lose collision while phasing and she needs to lose prayer beads.
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"Welcome to rank 5+, your quintessential Hillbilly experience! All Hillbilly, All the time! Soon to be Killer Bully simulator! (Hillbilly nerfs pending)"
I called this "future of DbD" scenario back in other "Nurse OP, Plz nerf" threads. Currently there are 3 killers that everyone pretty much agrees are High rank viable, and this is often complained about due to the lack of killer diversity in the high ranks. Although Nurses add-on's definitely need some balance adjustments, If she's nerfed too much and loses her high rank viability, all that will do in game is make rank 5+ the Billy and Spirit exclusive ranks, and change the frequency of "Nurse OP, PLZ nerf" posts in these forums to "Spirit/Billy OP, Plz Nerf". Its a slippery slope. This game needs killers who are high rank viable, and actually needs more of them, not less. Otherwise the mid-high ranks become exclusive to only a minority of killers, and if people learn that if they complain enough on these forums they can take down a high tier killer, eventually rank 5+ becomes a boring place where the only people playing are teams of survivors who just want to bully killers who reach those ranks, and try to get any higher. Rank 5+ becomes less of an acknowledgement to the Killer players skill, and more of a testament of their masochism. Killer players want to have fun too after all, and even though these killers have an easier time at the high ranks, they are a far cry from making them the "Survivor bully simulator" ranks.
The reason these 3 killers are high rank viable is simple: Map pressure. All 3 have abilities that allow them to keep pressure on survivors regardless of map size, and even surprise survivors focusing on their objectives. At low ranks this is frustrating to survivors, at mid ranks its a challenge, and at high ranks its the only thing that keeps good survivors on their game. Any killer that can't apply good map pressure is seen as mid viable at best, since good survivors know how to optimally loop and evade them. I'm not saying that most killers can't win at high ranks, just that it takes a hell of a lot of frustration and time to play them at those ranks and win. Killers who can apply good map pressure in their base kits on the other hand are slightly less frustrating to play at those ranks because they are the only ones who can effectively slow down the gen rush meta. If they get nerfed to the point where their tools and kits for map pressure aren't effective against said meta, then what motivation do killer players have for reaching the high ranks? What motivation do survivors have for reaching those ranks if the game loses its challenge, other than to bully killer players?
The majority of the fun in this game is the challenge the killers present. Some killers have an easier time of presenting a greater challenge by design while others only present a more casual challenge, but without the ones who can compete effectively in the high ranks the game becomes boring or a killer bully simulator. You may be salty, and frustrated over a few killers that are high rank viable, but understand that in the long run, constantly complaining about them with the goal of getting them nerfed doesn't help this game, it hurts it.
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Agreed, we need viable killers, or if they are nerfed, the game will eventually become too easy for survivors.
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nurse is weak already so nerfing her would be like taking a shot in foot for devs.
Spirit is very balanced - easy to mindgame / not so hard to escape from her sight.
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