Dear BHVR...How about

The changes they made will indeed affect the balance of Solo Players

SWF will still do well with the changes but for solo players not really

x2 gen time is too strong, an extra Generator would be enough

as for fixing SWF, gives an extra perk slot for Killers when there is a group of 4

@RemoveSWF said:
Do both.

Nerf solo players and remove SWF.

SWF is the issue, Solo players aren't

@Tsulan said:

@Grey87 said:
you do something about SWF instead of nerfing solo survivor players?
All those survivor nerfs and killer buffs will be almost useless agains the good old 4 man swf group and then what, you'll increase the generator repair time x2 to fix the "gen rush"?
Jesus christ...

I don´t see the issue as solo survivor. Never had a problem playing solo on high ranks. Even the nerfs won´t affect me, since i don´t use any of the nerfed perks. Survivors got so used to their crutches, that they can´t imagine playing without them.

Same for me. I always play solo survivor and i didn't get to rank 1 by using any of the OP perks. My build was bond, windows of oppurtinity, iron will and borrowed time. Was sprint burst nerfed too much that you can't use it anymore? guess what wake up is in the same condition and most killer perks. Just like you don't use them, don't use Sprint burst if it is too much for you. The devs finally started to see the unbalance in the game and they are going to the right direction.

Delfador said:

@Tsulan said: l

@Grey87 said:
you do something about SWF instead of nerfing solo survivor players?
All those survivor nerfs and killer buffs will be almost useless agains the good old 4 man swf group and then what, you'll increase the generator repair time x2 to fix the "gen rush"?
Jesus christ...

I don´t see the issue as solo survivor. Never had a problem playing solo on high ranks. Even the nerfs won´t affect me, since i don´t use any of the nerfed perks. Survivors got so used to their crutches, that they can´t imagine playing without them.

Same for me. I always play solo survivor and i didn't get to rank 1 by using any of the OP perks. My build was bond, windows of oppurtinity, iron will and borrowed time. Was sprint burst nerfed too much that you can't use it anymore? guess what wake up is in the same condition and most killer perks. Just like you don't use them, don't use Sprint burst if it is too much for you. The devs finally started to see the unbalance in the game and they are going to the right direction.

I use Empathy, WGLF, BT and We'll make it.
Works like a charm.

@fcc2014 said:

@RemoveSWF said:
Do both.

Nerf solo players and remove SWF.

Seriously give up your crusade. If they eliminate swf it will cut a huge chunk out of the player base. You will then complain that you have 10-15 minute wait times for lobbies.

I almost always have 10-15 minute lobbies times as the killer so its ok for meh and funk the groups its op

@RemoveSWF said:
remove SWF.

This game would experience a major playerbase drop if SWF was ever removed.

@RemoveSWF said:

@Someissues said:

@RemoveSWF said:
Do both.

Nerf solo players and remove SWF.

SWF is the issue, Solo players aren't

If one person can loop for five generators, they don't need a team.

They do. Who would do the gens?

@fcc2014 said:
Der_Schatten said:

you wait 10-15min.? Maybe dont skip every SWF Group...

And if you now wait 10-15min. , if SWF will be removed you wait for an Hour. DBD will be sooo Dead if SWF is out.

NOTE: If they Remove SWF, Friends will Nevertheless try to play together... they will try to find each other in Lobbys... so MUCH more skipping lobbys by Surv. MUCH more Waiting for a full lobby.

* i dont think they should do anything to SWF

• For the P*ssy Killers out there, maybe give some Bonus Bloodpoints... Like this ( Group of 2-1-1= 15% Extra BP on Total) (Group 2-2=20% Extra BP on Total) (Goup 3-1=25% Extra BP on Total) (Group of 4 SWF= 30% on All Bloodpoints earned at the Round... )

  For me as a Rank1 Killer (Wraith) i would love to see a SWF Full Team... !

  You became a rank 1 killer with the wraith? +1 to you sir.

I am not saying he is bad but right now, it is difficult to not reach rank 1. You can do it by using any killer. Rank system is kinda broken right now.

Just make this change
2-man SWF - x2 perks disabled (randomly)
3-man SWF - x3 perks disabled (randomly)
4-man SWF - x4 perks disabled
Just a little fix maybe wont fix the whole issue but will help a good part

RemoveSWF said:

Do both.

Nerf solo players and remove SWF.

Sounds like survivors aren’t the issue, you are. SWF is annoying, let’s balance around that, and not solo where there is no communication. If you allow someone to pallet loop you for 5 gens, you’re allowing it. I play the Pig, and have made it to purple ranks, I use mind games and majority of the time I get them. If someone is just that good with looping, move on.