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General Discussions
No one play Ash anymore ?
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Because mom is dead.
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I do because I need buckle Up >_>
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Its because the devs killed Mettle of Man. It was in need of a change, but they overdid it, like they did it with Legion.
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I do. Considering I bought Ash to play as Ash, why wouldnt I?
People saying its bc of MoM are probably the ones who only bought him for a potentially op perk.
Hail to the King, baby!
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Nice assumptions. Never used mom because I considered it unbalanced and op. Still I think people don't use him because mom is useless now.
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I'm glad MOM is dead. It was an incredibly BS perk. Same reason i'll never use decisive strike. it just makes me feel dirty. Why do people think decisive strike was nerfed? That's a buff people. Complete Immunity for 60 seconds after an unhook. How pathetic do you have to be yo use that perk? and now people are abusing it with lockers.
I don't personally play ash because he doesn't have his boomstick, or chainsaw.
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I don't understand why anyone rags on people for buying survivors based on their perks. They don't have powers, their perks are literally their content. And how many people bought Leatherface for his perks?
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It got reworked, not buffed. Exactly, DS is only active for 60 seconds after getting unhooked, it is in no way a “buff”. Honestly, nobody is “pathetic” for using a perk in the game. XD
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Before he got released I said I would main him just because I like the actor, but I grew attached to my boy Jake, I will never betray him
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Yeah I hardly ever see him anymore. RIP MoM
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I actually just checked out of curiosity; his usage just gradually dropped over time. There is no moment where people suddenly stopped using him (e.g. perk gets nerfed, everyone switches).
Basically it's just what normally happens for survivors. When a new one comes out, a lot of people play them to get their perks (and try them out ASAP). As they unlock the teachable perks, they switch back to their main survivor where they already have every other perk. The older a survivor is, the more people typically play them.
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You're right pathetic is the wrong word.
Also why exactly can't a rework be considered a buff? If It's stronger than the older version? You saying Freddy wasn't buffed?
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The reworked version isn’t stronger, honestly I preferred old Freddy.
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Yes, but rework Freddy has better design and is healthier for the game
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I agree
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Like most of the survivors. Maxed him out quickly, got all 3 teachables, he wasn't my main. Finished using the rest of the offerings and items on him. Don't need him anymore
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Got his adept, unlocked his perks, and then went back to my Dwighty boy.
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I used MoM for 2 or 3 weeks. Honestly it was a strong perk, but was it really any stronger than dead hard? MoM was a one use perk with a significant drawback (aura reading). Dead hard can be used multiple times throughout the game.
Ash's perks are terrible.
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I would main him if I could buy DLC stuff. I don't care much about his perks.
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Correct, it did the same thing Dead Hard did. Except you could use it only once. Instead of running Mettle Of Man you could have just used Dead Hard to negate many attacks instead of just one. The only time it really made a difference was when you run Mettle Of Man and an exhaustion perk to simulate having that exhaustion perk and being able to Dead Hard once per game
It was never as insanely strong as people claimed it was. And yes now all of his perks are absolute garbage and will never be relevant instead of just two of his perks being garbage that will never be relevant
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I personally hate Ash. There always the most cocky out of the group and it always ends up getting them killed.
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he is the loudest survivor while injured. his grunts are so noisy its annoying.
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Cause mom is dead which is great
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Most people don't want to dump points into prestiging/learning all perks on new survivors and just stick to their mains
I played Jane for Head On for a while but switched back to Kate/Quentin right when I got the teachable.
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Well that depends. Most of people say MoM but the fact is, first is annoying to hear "What now?" Everytime you choose him. Don't missunderstand me, I am glad a survivor have voice in the main lobby, but is a bit overwhelming as the time pass, like hearing the same song for weeks.
As another user said, he's one of the loudest survivors wich makes hard for you to to be stealthy, yes we have a perk but is better to choose a more silent survivor than using a perk slot just to be silent.
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needs more customisation items, same reason I don't play any of the licencsed dlc survs
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Probably because most people can't move away from Meg and Claudette (or their favourite in general, but I swear 90% of people use only those two)
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@White_Owl I think you have a point. Like Peanits said ppl have their faves and I cba to grind out a new bloodweb
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Life’s been tough without her.
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Should check on the use of MoM as a perk too. Bet it is at rock bottom. That was a hell of a bait-and-switch move on BHVR's part. Hats of to you, you got your money out of it. How you did not know it would need to be changed before putting it up for sale is beyond me. Either incompetence, or predatory sales tactic. lol
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Maybe they just can’t stand his wheezing anymore! I mean seriously! The Nurse probably has clearer airways than this guy! 😂
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I mean he is loud af. I play him all the time but holy hell I can't play him without Iron Will.
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Jeff and Jane are like that as well. Really loud. I can hear those three from a mile away if I wounded them. Add Jake into the mix, he is a whiner and a half.
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Am I the only one fighting here?!
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I stopped playing him when the Ashy Slashy cosmetic was messing up the accuracy of the flashlight beam, then they "fixed" the accuracy but then the beam had no effect on the killer what so ever. He is also loud which many have mentioned and iron will would fix that but I'd rather just play another survivor that's naturally more quieter. Don't regret buying him but he is my least favorite male survivor at the moment.
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To me, Ash is LOUD. It's the same reason I don't play as Jeff anymore, which is a shame.
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I see Ash a decent amount. He's not the most popular, but you do see him.
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Exactly. MoM was too strong, but this wasnt a nerf. They removed it entirely from the game. It should have had a broken status affect added or something, instead of just completely removing it from the game. Adding a nerf that is dependent on something you know is already a "known issue" (protection hits not registering correctly) was a double slap. You dealt with it as quickly as possible and left it laying in it's own pool of sloppy, lazy programming and game administration, IMO.
Even if BHVR had no intentions of doing a bait and switch, the fact is they still did. I would not have bought him with his current perks.
It was a real ######### thing to do and I won't be buying any other DLC's until that is made right in some way. Give me half my money back or something.
Hey @peanits Can you take a look and tell us what percentage of matches MoM is used now? Bet it's less than 5 percent and that's WITH people trying for adept. Bet it's 0 percent in rank 1-3.🙄
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I don't play him because everyone who does seems to be an ######### for some reason.
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Because people got him to 40 for his perks and then went back to their favourite main to add them.
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For me it wasn’t because of perks but more so disappointment I guess? I was happy ash was in the game especially because Bruce Campbell was going to be the voice and have lines “in game” however what we got was kinda disappointing imo. What I expected was for ash to say “groovy” when completing a gen, saying something like “come on I gotcha” when rescuing, saying “bastard” when getting hit and sorta mocking the killer when getting a stun. But what we got was “wHat nOw?”, “LooK whoS shittIng in thE Tall gRass.” every ten seconds while waiting in the lobby. On top of that ash is Jeff 2.0 with being injured sounding like an alarm going off really makes me not want to play as him unless running iron will. Didn’t care for the perks and I knew MoM was going to be nerfed anyways so I just bought ash because I love evil dead but I guess it was lower expectations then I expected and stealth doesn’t exist with him.
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I still do now and again but he is really loud when injured and I don't have IW for him as yet or I would play him more.
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People keep mentioning the perk, but I just got irritated of hearing him talk in the lobbies and how loud he is on freaking totems.
Then again, I'm a Feng main...... she's loud af
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He is the only survivor I've been playing since he came out other than getting acheivments and doing dailys
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@Chickenchaser Um...I've had plenty of killers bring MYC, wait just outside of terror radius, wait until someone pulls me off the hook, and then come running, hit the MYC and then me(or just wait outside of terror radius until I get unhooked to come hit me again). DS is not "pathetic". It has it's uses, and honestly this has happened enough times to where I finally decided to start leveling Laurie.
Which is more pathetic? DS or that killer who is wanting an easier win?
As for Ash, I've rarely seen him. When I do he's always the one trying to egg the killer on and usually pays for it, like someone else said though.
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Mom is dead. ######### ash!
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So cut the grind in that way we could get a higher variety of survivors to adore in game.
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I played Ash most of the time, but i dropped him because of his constant moaning while injured. Very annoying.
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@Astrash
An easier win? You just gave out the play book on how to lose as a killer. That's just advanced camping. Don't let the killer outsmart you like that.
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@Chickenchaser You're not understanding. It's not me who's being outsmarted. It's my teammates. They're idiots who don't understand how to counter camping, DS counters my idiot teammates and the idiot killer who's trying to take advantage of that.
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