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Why isn't Pinhead a killer yet?

HumanNefarious
HumanNefarious Member Posts: 6
in General Discussions

Title says it all... Talk about a perfect fit for a new killer.🤘

Comments

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    Only if the Survivor is Dirty Dan.

  • toxic_clown
    toxic_clown Member Posts: 318

    You act like there arent hoops to jump through to add a licensed killer to the game

  • Feycromancer
    Feycromancer Member Posts: 19

    Why isnt slenderman or jason or a deadite or alien or candyman or carrie or it. Tbh id rather have a throwback horror icon survivor like Vincent Price

  • ArecBalrin
    ArecBalrin Member Posts: 636

    Pinhead as a concept/character from The Hellbound Heart is owned by Clive Barker. Pinhead of the Hellraiser films is currently owned by Dimension Films on license and they only make new films to hold on to their film license. The actor Doug Bradley is so strongly associated with the character, he might have a stake in the likeness from the films as well. It seems a remarkable coincidence that Freddy, as the one unmasked licensed killer, is the 2009 Jackie Earle Harley one rather than Robert Englund- the actor synonymous with Freddy. That's more than just issues with rights to the character; JEH can't argue that it's his likeness in that burnt-face, but Englund's make-up explicitly allowed for his expressions and likeness to come through.

    Freddy didn't need the actor and the writer's permission: they didn't use the Englund version and Wes Craven is RIP. They just needed the current rights-holders permission: New Line Cinema and Warner Bros. Pinhead from the films would need the permission of the writer(Barker), the studio(Dimension) and possibly the actor, but Doug Bradley has been sour on not being cast in either of the two straight-to-video films released since he last starred as Pinhead in 2005.

    So they would probably be left using one of those other Pinheads, who apart from the head are almost total re-designs. The director of the most recent film 'Hellraiser: Judgement' said the re-design was out of 'respect' for Bradley, to distinguish his Pinhead from the new one. To me, it seems more likely this was done for legal reasons because Bradley might have a valid claim to be a co-creator of the classic design of Pinhead. Bradley had been offered pittances to return to the role, but turned down the latest one because he would have had to sign an NDA just to read the script. He's been treated appallingly, so really might just veto any use of classic Pinhead and no one will want to risk settling it in court.

  • HumanNefarious
    HumanNefarious Member Posts: 6

    Love the full answer. Appreciate it 👍

  • HatCreature
    HatCreature Member Posts: 3,298

    Arec's answer was perfect but I would like to add that we can always have Pinhead esq Killer, someone who is a lot like that character but definitely not him.

    He'd have to be wearing bondage attire and have hooks as a power, have everything that really makes this character a sinister cold torturous idol but still not be Pinhead. Hillbilly is basically their version of Leatherface as in he is a deformed hillbilly with a chainsaw. I'm positive that the Hillbilly we have would be Leatherface had they been able to get those rights at launch and the Leatherface we have now would not exist. I could be wrong of course but it's hard not to think that.