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I wanna know why survs hate Billy and want him nerfed???
To get it out there I main Billy and play the doc, but as a Billy main why do u survs want him nerfed? Cuz he's been here from the start of the game and is the top 2 killer if not first, Can't it just be ur not as good as u think? Cuz Billy is easily juked while reving his chainsaw up and while he is zoom zoom, so why is it y'all can't just loop him? Cuz I can when I play as survs yes it difficult but once u know it's Billy just don't [BAD WORD] up, so I wanna know wat the survs think
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Also I mean no offense so please take it easy with the comments
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Just curious is this a Platform specific bug for Hillbilly or is it across all platform? Can you give me a bit more detail of the bug, the steps to replicate it if possible, and how often this occurs?
Generally speaking I think it comes down to inexperience. I personally don't have a problem with Billy. Spirit on the other hand... That cut up dismembered haunting witch is far from fair at base, However, just tolerable enough to not be considered Nurse level. (PERKS ARE NOT A COUNTER)
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Because he is OP. He can kill survivors. Better nerf him asap.
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Billy is fine. He's strong, got an instadown and great map pressure, but I wouldn't call him OP or that he needs a nerf. He can still be looped like any other killer. The only thing is my friends say he should be a 110% killer, since any other killer with range attack (Huntress) or map control powers (Hag, Nurse and Spirit) has decreased speed. I don't entirely agree with that though.
I'd rather they take a look at Spirit instead of Billy.
I think the real problem is that people meet him in almost every other game with Ruin, BBQ, Spirit Fury/Bamboozle and Enduring, which makes him boring. That's how I feel with every killer tho if I meet them multiple times during one session.
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True, yes they really should take a look at spirit, I think Billy is balanced the way he is u just gotta learn how to avoid him cuz not one killer is the same and u have to learn how to avoid each one effectively
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It's because getting insta-downed isn't the most enjoyable thing in the world, and to a certain extent, I do agree, but he should stay as he is in my opinion.
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I'm pretty sure that people who say and make threads about wanting to nerf Billy are either baiting or they just installed the game.
Also, Billy is 3rd in the top, Spirit is 2nd and Nurse is obviously 1st. With Spirit being the most annoying killer to play against next to release Legion, I swear, I'd rather go against a great Nurse than good Spirit, as there is practically no counterplay against her, and the one she's supposed to have is not even working in the first place (Grass is supposed to move whilst she's phasing, but it doesnt).
A good fix to Spirit so she'd have any counterplay would be removing collision with survivors while she's phasing.
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As a survivor main speaking: no idea.
I personally enjoy to play against him and for me he is easier to juke than Bubba (even though Billy is way stronger than him, I'd choose to play against Billy over Bubba anytime).
Most rounds against him are pretty fun and I see no reason why he should get nerfed. I like him as he is right now. If you know how to juke it is possible to avoid his chainsaw for a good amount of time. If not, it's most likely the survivors own fault. Of cause there are situations where you can't do anything about it and just get chainsawed - but that just how it should be. A killer which can be looped for a little while and eventually gets you sounds like a good balance for me. This way it is fun for both sides you can have good chases and no one is getting absolute depression in the end.
I guess many people are just whiney because they still couldn't figure out how to avoid his chainsaw when he's running to them.
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Dunno, people just can't adapt
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I believe many survivors dislike Billy because he's:
1) too easy to play for what he provides (huge map pressure + legit instadown).
2) too forgiving. As Billy you can bump into every wall, lose survivors a million times and still win due to his strong mobility+instadown combination. It's safe to say even a bad Billy will win against "mid tier" survivors more often than not.
3) despite his strong map pressure+instadown basekit he also has 115% ms allowing him to cut off ways and m1 people easily making him more forgiving than he already is.
4) his chainsaw can't be juked if the killer has potato internet.
5) A god Billy will sometimes manage to instadown survivors WHILE getting looped around pallets by chainsaw flicking.
As I said that's just what I "believe" are the reasons as I personally don't struggle against any killer in particular except for good Nurses and Spirits as these two don't have any actual counterplay in my book.
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because they want every killer on wraith lvl.
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Survivors who get downed by a Billy without addons are just bad period.
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Because he is op?
Multiple people have stated why Billy is objectively OP,yet the "counter arguments" are just "yo,he is balanced,git gud".
Even my grandma can get 4k with Billy at any rank, its the easiest thing in the world.
And the majority of killers you see at red ranks are billis showing how "balanced" he is.
everyone can get to red rank with Billy.
He is the easiest killer to rank up with,because he is so "balanced" ,lolololol.
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I understand bout the insta down I play survs to and I don't like it when I get insta down but it's my fault and of the killer don't face camp me I'll do my best not to make the same mistake
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Haha so true😂
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From a killers perspective: The devs are nerfing the other killers but Hillbilly always stays safe from nerfs, increasing the gap between the top killers and the bottom killers and reducing our choice of who to play if we want to win.
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I'm glad to hear someone loves to go against Billy, even if I get alot of toxic messages bout me being Billy he is so fun to play against and to play as
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My Billy is on 37 but I'm still trying to learn the chainsaw flick
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True and then they blame others except themselves
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Billy is fine i love playing against billy maybe the most annoying things are the perks they ussuslly run bbq, enduring, ruin spirit fury but other than that billy is gun to go up against unlike some of the other killers
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Honesty I understand wat ur saying but I really do believe Billy is balanced and is in a good spot, on his description it says easy for a reason u know? So that's one reason he is so high up and in the top 3 I believe if they need him it will just mess him up and nobody would play Billy
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My only issue with the Hillbilly is that he moves at the same speed a Survivor does when he’s charging his chainsaw, so he can just run up and point-blank everyone. If he moved at the same speed Bubba does then I’d be fine with him.
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I'm always gonna be worried when an update is fixing to roll out and people are saying Nerf Billy 😖
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Lol I don't have BBQ I literally just run wat is meant for him🤣 and still win, buuut I really do want BBQ lol
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Don't worry they won't nerf him because he has a disability.
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I see wat u mean and yes it is fairly easy to catch up with a surv when I'm Billy and yes the chainsaw makes it easier but he is easy to juke if u know how and/or practice doing it with friends or whenever u go up against Billy but I do believe Billy is fine as he is just when u go up against him if u have spine chill it helps alot atleast for me it does cuz it gives me a heads up before he even gets to me and before he even sees me
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Ok thanks lol, it's just really normal to see killers get nerfed when u see alot of people complain. But I won't anymore, and goodluck in ur next match whenever u play👍
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I know there are so many toxic survivors who will give you salt in the chat for anything.
Even when I play with randoms, they sometimes try to insult the killer for their own faults and if the killer gets a 4k he is "definitely OP". Of cause. Especially when they played like potatoes. Don't give any value to that.
I'm just sick of all these whiney peoples, who think they got a bad match when they get killed. I can have a good match even when I die in the end. If the killer camps hard or tunnels extremely and no one helps, it is a bad match for me. But that's more depending on the killers playstyle than on the killer itself.
And Billy is designed for map pressure and to run around fast. It is not a killer a camper would choose I think. And it also does not really make sense to tunnel with him. That's another reason why I like to play against him. He'll most likely go after different people instead of hunting down one person.
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I like Billy if there skilled it can be a joy to play against and even the bad ones are enjoyable to go against.
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Because people get caught making stupid mistakes and his chainsaw can make them pay for it quicker, and from farther away than most.
Most killers you can get an unhook as soon as they leave. If you get seen by billy, you wont even get them off the hook before you're laying next to them.
So stupid mistakes are punished more often, thus they get upset and blame the only changed variable in their mind: the Billy.
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"Git Good" they say. "He's Balanced as he is" they say.
Remember, the game is fueled by us Survivors. Have fun playing as Billy when all of you have to wait 20 minutes for a match.
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Yea, I enjoy playing against Billy. It doesn't take long to figure out if you can or can't juke him. Insta saws aren't needed and I have more fun with turn Billy. Trying to get people from across the map is probably the most fun I have as killers, in general.
Also anyone asking for a nerf, he used to be able to flick left or right at the end of a saw and drill people.
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First off I would say Billy is the 3rd of top killers cuz he is easier to doged and defeat compare to nurse and spirt and if he gets Nerf it's not just the survivors fault I've heard so many people say he is op and if too many say that then he does get nerfed and I would would say facing him is ex if u know what to do
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That's not true at all, or else he wouldn't be considered anywhere near the top 3 killers In the game.
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Idk.. both threads I've seen so far are people talking about people that want to nerf Billy and not actual people that want to nerf Billy. I know it's something noob saibots complain about sometimes but it's not one of the more common survivor complaints.
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Because survivors hate every killer and want them nerfed.
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Yes, he is balanced because against good survivors he is just a 115% speed loopable killer, even most of the survivors mains I know agree with this.
Legion is the easiest killer to rank up, he is literally a "emblems machine", but you don't see anyone saying that Legion is OP.
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I mean I hate playing against him on console as it's harder to avoid his chainsaw because it's harder to change direction for some reason and his chainsaw hotbox is wonky a lot of the time. Mix that with the consistent slight lag and it's unfun.
It's about survivor movement and how responsive/unresponsive the controls are.
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Yeah when ur a killer main the toxic survs expect u to let them go and not pressure them. And yes Billy is made for pressuring survs and being able to zoom zoom across the map to keep the pressure up over there. But when the toxic survs don't get their way and u end up having a 4k which is a good match for u, they'll be it on u
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I don’t have a problem with him.
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Exactly cuz if ur walking away from the hook but catch movement off to ur right or left heading torwards ur hook ur gonna go back cuz it's the killers job, and they got caught and have to pay for their mistake of not having a bit more patience
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When I created this discussion it was NOT MEANT FOR PEOPLE FOR PROPLE TO GET MAD AND DEFENSIVE!!! And u remember this game is fueled by the killers so I wish u luck when people like u run all of us off and u have to wait a [BAD WORD] hour. Also u might actually just suck at the game so git gud.
Now we will go back to being PEACEFUL LIKE I MEANTIONED IN THE VERY FIRST COMMENT
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I'm glad u enjoy Billy cuz I do too, and see he used to be OP but now he is balanced
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In all honesty going against him isnt gonna be a easy win cuz Billy is one of the top 2 ( reasons I say this is because people usually say nurse is below Billy and the spirit)
So he already got nerfed once doing it again would kill him and make him useless
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I know unfortunately Billy was the first killer I ever was and I'm good with him, he already got nerfed once and the winey survs got their way, but getting nerfed again would kill him
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Idk honestly if we got the God Billy to play against a SWF I honestly believe we Billy's would win ( and by God Billy I mean the best of all is Billy's)
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True
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Because he can oneshot, instead of 1hit down should only make survivors injured, the chainsaw can be used to reach the other side of the map in few seconds. Can be enough
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Idk know bout that honestly cuz some of his add ons makes it wear it won't one shot but will increase certain things along with more bloodpoints if u use it, Billy already got nerfed once and I don't want to see if him getting nerfed again will kill him. I've went against and talked to survs that loves to go against Billy since he can give u a hard time and they don't want Billy nerfed either
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Yes I can't argue with u there. A great Billy would get crushed.
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