Can we get Face camping back?
Since survivor mains still complain about being face camped.
It seems the removal of face camping back in October hasn´t done much in the eyes of survivors. So why not bring it back?
Or can we get at least a Educational video, where you show what the differences in camping are. Because people still use expressions like "long distance face camper" for killers which dare to look into the direction of the hook from a distance of 40+ meters.
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Only thing I want is for Survivors to not be able to body block the hook prompt. If it’s “an exploit” of a game mechanic for Killers, it’s the same for Survivors.Give Killers the swivel hooks6
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@SovererignKing said:
Only thing I want is for Survivors to not be able to body block the hook prompt. If it’s “an exploit” of a game mechanic for Killers, it’s the same for Survivors.Give Killers the swivel hooksYeah, i never understood why they do different rules on the same issue.
Or why a 50kg Claudette can body block a 150kg Trapper. He would kick her IRL and she wouldn´t be able to recover for the next 30 seconds.9 -
I would love to get face camping back as an intended mechanic instead of an exploit.
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@Tsulan said:
@SovererignKing said:
Only thing I want is for Survivors to not be able to body block the hook prompt. If it’s “an exploit” of a game mechanic for Killers, it’s the same for Survivors.Give Killers the swivel hooksYeah, i never understood why they do different rules on the same issue.
Or why a 50kg Claudette can body block a 150kg Trapper. He would kick her IRL and she wouldn´t be able to recover for the next 30 seconds.How sweet it would be to have a kick option when the survivors are hovering around 😌 that'd make for some satisfying gameplay lmao
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@Tsulan said:
@SovererignKing said:
Only thing I want is for Survivors to not be able to body block the hook prompt. If it’s “an exploit” of a game mechanic for Killers, it’s the same for Survivors.Give Killers the swivel hooksYeah, i never understood why they do different rules on the same issue.
Or why a 50kg Claudette can body block a 150kg Trapper. He would kick her IRL and she wouldn´t be able to recover for the next 30 seconds.I always find it comical whenever petite little Min reaches up and hauls a shirtless David off the hook like it's nothing. I guess threat of death and adrenaline give you some super strength.
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Only if we bring back insta-blinds.
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Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.3
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Good, I didn't want one anyway LOLRemoveSWF said:@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:@Star99er said:
Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.
It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.
I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.
Or Doctor blasting M2.
You are not entitled to a free rescue.
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And I want easy kills, no looping and SWF removing because I’m not skilled enough to combat it.RemoveSWF said:@Visionmaker said:
RemoveSWF said:@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:
@Star99er said:
Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.
It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.
I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.Or Doctor blasting M2.
You are not entitled to a free rescue.
Good, I didn't want one anyway LOL
"I don't want a free rescue, I just want everything that prevents free rescues removed from the game."
Cancer.
Your entitlement is just as cancerous, so step down off your soap box.4 -
@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:@Star99er said:
Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.
It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.
I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.
Or Doctor blasting M2.
That´s not face camping.
It´s as much of the same thing as Billy is to Leatherface.
Both have chainsaws, one has a huge map presence, the other one doesn´t.1 -
RemoveSWF said:
@Visionmaker said:
RemoveSWF said:@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:
@Star99er said:
Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.
It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.
I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.Or Doctor blasting M2.
You are not entitled to a free rescue.
Good, I didn't want one anyway LOL
"I don't want a free rescue, I just want everything that prevents free rescues removed from the game."
Cancer.
Who are you quoting? I never said to remove them, I'm just pointing out a fact.
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@Paddy4583 said:
RemoveSWF said:@Visionmaker said:
RemoveSWF said:
@Visionmaker said: Tsulan said:
@Star99er said:
Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.
It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.
I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing. Or Doctor blasting M2. You are not entitled to a free rescue.
Good, I didn't want one anyway LOL
"I don't want a free rescue, I just want everything that prevents free rescues removed from the game."
Cancer.
And I want easy kills, no looping and SWF removing because I’m not skilled enough to combat it.
Your entitlement is just as cancerous, so step down off your soap box.
Camping: killer achieved his goal by successfully chasing, downing and hooking a survivor.
Looping: survivor wastes time by abusing the differences in the colision boxes of killers and survivors.0 -
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Nah. Hillbilly can't prevent saves. Even if he downs one person, another can save.Tsulan said:@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:@Star99er said:
Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.
It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.
I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.
Or Doctor blasting M2.
That´s not face camping.
It´s as much of the same thing as Billy is to Leatherface.
Both have chainsaws, one has a huge map presence, the other one doesn´t.Doctor and LF literally prevent saves. Call it what you want, it achieves the same thing as facecamping.4 -
Want camping gone?
Here is the solution.
First hook you die. No added time. No more nine lives. If you get slapped on the hook you die. Instantly.
Willing to accept that? I doubt it.
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Envees said:
Want camping gone?
Here is the solution.
First hook you die. No added time. No more nine lives. If you get slapped on the hook you die. Instantly.
Willing to accept that? I doubt it.
Only if we can use machetes to kill the killer too.Oh and have voice chat in game. And maybe rename the game to something more catchy. Something that begins with Friday...3 -
what does people mean theres no counter to face camping?
the rest of the team can do generators meanwhile cant they
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Oohh a post on face camping - haven't seen that around here in a while
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@Beardedragon said:
what does people mean theres no counter to face camping?the rest of the team can do generators meanwhile cant they
That is the best way to punish those pathetic face campers. Everyone else escapes, and ends up with a higher score than the killer, too. Worth being face camped to death for that.
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@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:
@Star99er said:
Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.
It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.
I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.Or Doctor blasting M2.
That´s not face camping.
It´s as much of the same thing as Billy is to Leatherface.
Both have chainsaws, one has a huge map presence, the other one doesn´t.
Nah. Hillbilly can't prevent saves. Even if he downs one person, another can save.
Doctor and LF literally prevent saves. Call it what you want, it achieves the same thing as facecamping.
It´s not face camping.
Face camping was standing in front of the hooked survivor. Preventing the "press m1 to unhook" promt from appearing. This has been removed with the introduction of swivel hooks.
It was removed long after the release of the Doctor and shortly after Leatherface was introduced.What you mean is called HARD camping.
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Tsulan said:
@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:
@Star99er said:
Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.
It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.
I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.Or Doctor blasting M2.
That´s not face camping.
It´s as much of the same thing as Billy is to Leatherface.
Both have chainsaws, one has a huge map presence, the other one doesn´t.
Nah. Hillbilly can't prevent saves. Even if he downs one person, another can save.
Doctor and LF literally prevent saves. Call it what you want, it achieves the same thing as facecamping.
It´s not face camping.
Face camping was standing in front of the hooked survivor. Preventing the "press m1 to unhook" promt from appearing. This has been removed with the introduction of swivel hooks.
It was removed long after the release of the Doctor and shortly after Leatherface was introduced.What you mean is called HARD camping.
I know what you mean by face camping.. I don't care to dispute over semantics, I am pointing out the fact that it is accomplishing the same thing. LolBut ######### I've never heard anyone call it HARD camping 🙄1 -
@Tsulan said:
@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:
@Star99er said:
Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.
It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.
I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.Or Doctor blasting M2.
That´s not face camping.
It´s as much of the same thing as Billy is to Leatherface.
Both have chainsaws, one has a huge map presence, the other one doesn´t.
Nah. Hillbilly can't prevent saves. Even if he downs one person, another can save.
Doctor and LF literally prevent saves. Call it what you want, it achieves the same thing as facecamping.
It´s not face camping.
Face camping was standing in front of the hooked survivor. Preventing the "press m1 to unhook" promt from appearing. This has been removed with the introduction of swivel hooks.
It was removed long after the release of the Doctor and shortly after Leatherface was introduced.What you mean is called HARD camping.
I call it patrolling. I have no desire to chase you another potential two times so i make sure you die the first time you are on the hook. Rarely did i end up with less than two kills. Camping pays. It does. One is ALWAYS close by meaning only two are on gens. Most of the games i camped i got 2-3 kills.
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@SovererignKing said:
Only thing I want is for Survivors to not be able to body block the hook prompt. If it’s “an exploit” of a game mechanic for Killers, it’s the same for Survivors.Give Killers the swivel hooksNo no no.
When killer blocks, he is using an exploit, he is a noob, his mother a #########, and he should kill himself.
When survivors are blocking, they are intelligent, using smart tactic and, ekhem, "doing what they can do to survive".
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Like you I have never heard it called HARD camping. As far as I am concerned it will always be face camping, as you are staring at me, face to face.Visionmaker said:But ######### I've never heard anyone call it HARD camping 🙄
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The most romantic form of camping. If only we had a kissy face emote while on the hook.Russ76 said:
Like you I have never heard it called HARD camping. As far as I am concerned it will always be face camping, as you are staring at me, face to face.Visionmaker said:But ######### I've never heard anyone call it HARD camping 🙄
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@Tsulan said:
Since survivor mains still complain about being face camped.
It seems the removal of face camping back in October hasn´t done much in the eyes of survivors. So why not bring it back?Or can we get at least a Educational video, where you show what the differences in camping are. Because people still use expressions like "long distance face camper" for killers which dare to look into the direction of the hook from a distance of 40+ meters.
Whatever you do, you'll always be a "camper" for most survivors since you're still on the map by the time they escape anyway.
It's a pretty common thing to say, but whatever you do and they do, even if all of them show up around the hook, they'll still expect you to run away from it brainlessly like if you were an AI.That being said, there's quite a few "free camping" going on nowadays, even if it's not justified, which is pretty boring. Atm you'd better not being caught first in the current meta lol.
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Incorrect assumptionsRemoveSWF said:@Paddy4583 said:
RemoveSWF said:@Visionmaker said:
RemoveSWF said:
@Visionmaker said: Tsulan said:
@Star99er said:
Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.
It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.
I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing. Or Doctor blasting M2. You are not entitled to a free rescue.
Good, I didn't want one anyway LOL
"I don't want a free rescue, I just want everything that prevents free rescues removed from the game."
Cancer.
And I want easy kills, no looping and SWF removing because I’m not skilled enough to combat it.
Your entitlement is just as cancerous, so step down off your soap box.
This game's balance is not built to handle the looping exploit or voice chat.
Stop pretending exploiting bugs and abusing SWF is skill.
You are the least skilled survivor on these forums. Without your SWF and pallet infinites, you wouldn't last 30 seconds in a chase against a competent killer.
i don’t play SWF, your just salty because you can’t beat SWF groups. Stop pretending SWF playing as a team is some how an exploit.
You’ve got a foot up your ass about SWF and your vendetta is getting boring, you assume everyone who disagrees with you is a survivor who plays SWF.
is it because you have no F to S with is that it??
Ive also noticed that most of the crying and whining comes from the people who have Leatherface avatars..... illuminati confirmation.2 -
@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:
@Visionmaker said: Tsulan said:
@Star99er said:
Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.
It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.
I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.
Or Doctor blasting M2.
That´s not face camping.It´s as much of the same thing as Billy is to Leatherface.
Both have chainsaws, one has a huge map presence, the other one doesn´t.
Nah. Hillbilly can't prevent saves. Even if he downs one person, another can save.Doctor and LF literally prevent saves. Call it what you want, it achieves the same thing as facecamping.
It´s not face camping.
Face camping was standing in front of the hooked survivor. Preventing the "press m1 to unhook" promt from appearing. This has been removed with the introduction of swivel hooks.
It was removed long after the release of the Doctor and shortly after Leatherface was introduced.
What you mean is called HARD camping.
I know what you mean by face camping.. I don't care to dispute over semantics, I am pointing out the fact that it is accomplishing the same thing. Lol
But ######### I've never heard anyone call it HARD camping 🙄
Here you go, devs explaining the differences in camping:
Starts at 16:55
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Tsulan said:
@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:
@Visionmaker said: Tsulan said:
@Star99er said:
Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.
It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.
I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.
Or Doctor blasting M2.
That´s not face camping.It´s as much of the same thing as Billy is to Leatherface.
Both have chainsaws, one has a huge map presence, the other one doesn´t.
Nah. Hillbilly can't prevent saves. Even if he downs one person, another can save.Doctor and LF literally prevent saves. Call it what you want, it achieves the same thing as facecamping.
It´s not face camping.
Face camping was standing in front of the hooked survivor. Preventing the "press m1 to unhook" promt from appearing. This has been removed with the introduction of swivel hooks.
It was removed long after the release of the Doctor and shortly after Leatherface was introduced.
What you mean is called HARD camping.
I know what you mean by face camping.. I don't care to dispute over semantics, I am pointing out the fact that it is accomplishing the same thing. Lol
But ######### I've never heard anyone call it HARD camping 🙄
Here you go, devs explaining the differences in camping:
Starts at 16:55
TIL. Point still stands though. Leatherface and Doctor are able to fully and effortlessly deny saves, achieving the same end facecamping did.1 -
Now if only they'd add swivel to cleansing totems so my big survivor ass animation doesn't stand out like a Sir Mix A Lot video.
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To be fair, they took away pallet vacuums but didn't take away hook vacuums.powerbats said:Now if only they'd add swivel to cleansing totems so my big survivor ass animation doesn't stand out like a Sir Mix A Lot video.
It's a teeny little bit bullshit to see the killers do the electric slide and whisk you onto the hook while you sit at 100% wiggle meter.0 -
I agree it is heartbreaking. If they would add swivel hooking mechanism I think it would help avoid the hooking vacuum that you reference.Visionmaker said:
To be fair, they took away pallet vacuums but didn't take away hook vacuums.powerbats said:Now if only they'd add swivel to cleansing totems so my big survivor ass animation doesn't stand out like a Sir Mix A Lot video.
It's a teeny little bit bullshit to see the killers do the electric slide and whisk you onto the hook while you sit at 100% wiggle meter.2 -
@Russ76 said:
I agree it is heartbreaking. If they would add swivel hooking mechanism I think it would help avoid the hooking vacuum that you reference.There goes my dream of Boil Over ever being useful. /s
Dunno why there isn't a hook swivel as it is. Though I don't think killers have any issue finding hooks anyway, barring DS.
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Face camping wasn't removed. There's nothing stopping you from face camping, you can still just stand there and be trash and toxic. Just because the survivor can rescue from the side if the hook doesn't mean face camping is removed. Leatherfaces chainsaw has an AoE effect that allows you to hit the rescuer, and the rescuer.
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They took away pick up vacuum. Survivors lost Pallet Vacuum, Killers lost pick up Vacuum. 1:1, Survivors lost something, so did Killers.Visionmaker said:
To be fair, they took away pallet vacuums but didn't take away hook vacuums.powerbats said:Now if only they'd add swivel to cleansing totems so my big survivor ass animation doesn't stand out like a Sir Mix A Lot video.
It's a teeny little bit bullshit to see the killers do the electric slide and whisk you onto the hook while you sit at 100% wiggle meter.
Though as per usual, Survivors want it to be double. Killers should always be nerfed double the amount as Survivors. You know, because reasons.
Besides Wiggling wasn’t intended for you to escape the Killers grasp as often as you seem to think. All wiggling was introduced for was to prevent a Killer from basically carrying someone around all match. More or less “taking them out of the game”. That or carrying them around with Agitation.3 -
@SovererignKing said:
Visionmaker said:
powerbats said:Now if only they'd add swivel to cleansing totems so my big survivor ass animation doesn't stand out like a Sir Mix A Lot video.
To be fair, they took away pallet vacuums but didn't take away hook vacuums.
It's a teeny little bit bullshit to see the killers do the electric slide and whisk you onto the hook while you sit at 100% wiggle meter.
They took away pick up vacuum. Survivors lost Pallet Vacuum, Killers lost pick up Vacuum. 1:1, Survivors lost something, so did Killers.
Though as per usual, Survivors want it to be double. Killers should always be nerfed double the amount as Survivors. You know, because reasons.
Besides Wiggling wasn’t intended for you to escape the Killers grasp as often as you seem to think. All wiggling was introduced for was to prevent a Killer from basically carrying someone around all match. More or less “taking them out of the game”. That or carrying them around with Agitation.
I find struggling has gotten worse since 2.0 hit not sure why and I do know more killers re running iron grasp and enduring since 2.0 as well. The dribbling when you're not using ds is kinda annoying and how you can be at 100% but not wiggle free since hooks have an aoe radius so to speak now. With the non hook swivel the killer had to be in front but now if they're within x distance of the hook you're wiggle meter is cancelled.
It's working similar to how basement hooks work, you can be near the front hook but go for the back hook and never lose the survivor.
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If I know there's a survivor near the hooked survivor, I'll line up my hatchet on the hooked survivor, go very far away from the hooked survivor whIle keeping my charged hatchet lined up on the hooked survivor, and wait for the hooked survivor to get unhooked. When the hooked survivor gets unhooked, I release my hatchet and down the survivor from a far lol. Wait... that still counts as camping right? OopsTsulan said:Since survivor mains still complain about being face camped.
It seems the removal of face camping back in October hasn´t done much in the eyes of survivors. So why not bring it back?Or can we get at least a Educational video, where you show what the differences in camping are. Because people still use expressions like "long distance face camper" for killers which dare to look into the direction of the hook from a distance of 40+ meters.
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Youre Kidding right?,
Man Killers are as entitled as Survivors when they Change Quality Of Life.1 -
@Paddy4583 said:
RemoveSWF said:@Paddy4583 said:
RemoveSWF said:
@Visionmaker said: RemoveSWF said:
@Visionmaker said: Tsulan said:
@Star99er said: Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it. It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.
I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing. Or Doctor blasting M2. You are not entitled to a free rescue.
Good, I didn't want one anyway LOL "I don't want a free rescue, I just want everything that prevents free rescues removed from the game." Cancer. And I want easy kills, no looping and SWF removing because I’m not skilled enough to combat it.
Your entitlement is just as cancerous, so step down off your soap box.
This game's balance is not built to handle the looping exploit or voice chat.
Stop pretending exploiting bugs and abusing SWF is skill.
You are the least skilled survivor on these forums. Without your SWF and pallet infinites, you wouldn't last 30 seconds in a chase against a competent killer.
Incorrect assumptions
i don’t play SWF, your just salty because you can’t beat SWF groups. Stop pretending SWF playing as a team is some how an exploit.You’ve got a foot up your ass about SWF and your vendetta is getting boring, you assume everyone who disagrees with you is a survivor who plays SWF.
is it because you have no F to S with is that it??
Ive also noticed that most of the crying and whining comes from the people who have Leatherface avatars..... illuminati confirmation.
hes a shame to all LF players
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Have you even read more than the title?Mechkiller3425 said:Youre Kidding right?,
Man Killers are as entitled as Survivors when they Change Quality Of Life.1 -
I love it, when devs explain what every type of camping differentiates. But people still call everything face camping.Visionmaker said:Tsulan said:@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:
@Visionmaker said: Tsulan said:
@Star99er said:
Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.
It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.
I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.
Or Doctor blasting M2.
That´s not face camping.It´s as much of the same thing as Billy is to Leatherface.
Both have chainsaws, one has a huge map presence, the other one doesn´t.
Nah. Hillbilly can't prevent saves. Even if he downs one person, another can save.Doctor and LF literally prevent saves. Call it what you want, it achieves the same thing as facecamping.
It´s not face camping.
Face camping was standing in front of the hooked survivor. Preventing the "press m1 to unhook" promt from appearing. This has been removed with the introduction of swivel hooks.
It was removed long after the release of the Doctor and shortly after Leatherface was introduced.
What you mean is called HARD camping.
I know what you mean by face camping.. I don't care to dispute over semantics, I am pointing out the fact that it is accomplishing the same thing. Lol
But ######### I've never heard anyone call it HARD camping 🙄
Here you go, devs explaining the differences in camping:
Starts at 16:55
TIL. Point still stands though. Leatherface and Doctor are able to fully and effortlessly deny saves, achieving the same end facecamping did.
Never forget that streamer who complained about being face camped by Freddy.0 -
Only newbies call every form of camping face camping because they don't know what it means. They are the same newbies that will report you for hacking because they refuse to believe that they are bad at the game. Only time they get beat is when the opposition are cheating. #strokethatego
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