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My Best Attempt at a killer Tier List
I was originally going to put this on killer discussion but my Computer is down and in PS4 it doesn't give me the option to put it there. If by any chance a mod see's this post, do me a favor and move this post to killer.
Anyways Hi, it's me DoomOrb. Today I will be doing my very best to rank all killers, I will update this post as more killers are released and I will also change it base off your guys discussion down below if you agree with it or not. With that being said, I'm starting from the worst killer then going up to the best killers.
I'll explain why each killer is at where they are when my computer is more cooperative.
- Leatherface/Cannibal
- Wraith
- Doctor
- Legion
- Pig
- Trapper
- Shape/Myers
- Plague
- Clown
- Ghost Face
- The New and Improved Freddy Kruger.
- Huntress
- Hag
- Hillbilly
- Spirit
- Nurse
Now to talk about why each one is in where they are. Each are in the number they are labeled in.
- Leatherface really only good for camping. He's a good starter killer but that's about it. Bad chase potential, his chainsaw is more of a detriment than a benefit, and while he does break chainsaw as decent as Billy, that's about it.
- Wraith is faster invisible and he has a bit of mind game with his uncloak with his burst of speed. He can also bodyblock better than most killer, but aside from that he's just an average M1 killer.
- Doctor is ok, has really good tracking and a slightly better chase potential than the other killers below. With great timing in his shock he can interrupt vaults. He's a bit harder to loose in chase because as long as you are in madness 3, he knows where you go. So he's ok, but not really all that good aside from that.
- Legion has an ok chase, he can at least guarantee a good first hit and has a more consistent game slowing than Pig. Plus it can be reapplied over and over. He is also technically speaking infinite one hit if the survivors choose to heal against Legion, but as usual Legions power is really good at hitting you. Nothing beyond that as his powers don't help all that much in the chase.
- Pig's dash is much better for certain mind games, she can also sneak around and do surprise attacks. Her traps can extend the game though they can be inconsistent. She does have a better chase potential than the ones I've talked about above, but that's about it.
- Trapper is a feast and famine killer. He can be either really Godly or really bad against survivors. He does have great potential in winning even in high ranks, but he does waste a lot of time preparing his traps, by getting them around the map and setting them, unlike Hag and Freddy who can set them anytime. His power is strong, but not strong enough to give him a high ranking.
- Myers is a nice little flexible killer. On one side he can be really sneaky especially with certain add ons and perks. He can also be a decent expose killer, especially with tough of hair. He vaults faster than most killers and he's overall decent.
- Plague is also technically an instadown killer since in most cases people don't cleanse against her so people are always 1 shot, but when they do cleanse then you temporarily become a more powerful huntress for a short time. Overall Plague is pretty good, but doesn't get much love due to survivors not giving her the power.
- Clown is nice he ends chases quicker with his gas. He reloads whenever he wants and while he is an M1 killer, he's overall pretty decent.
- Ghostface, while his powers are both decent for certain mindgame, his power is best known for constant expose effect. He can continuously expose a survivor over and over again with no problem. His stealth is also better than most killers too.
- Freddy is great now. Really nice chase potential while slightly weaker than Clown's chase potential, he makes it up for more constant and no reloading. Plus he has a teleport ability to be able to traverse faster threw maps. He's overall a much better killer. While he's still a M1 killer he is a much better M1 killer than what he was before.
- Huntress's chase potential is to throw hatches at people. She has a bit of map presence because of that, but she does end chases relatively better than most killers. She does need to reload her hatches and you do need to be good at aiming them, but overall she's a great killer. Is sad a lot of the maps are against her.
- Hag, while her chase potential can rival Nurse's unlike Nurse she has a weakness and if the survivors are coordinated enough they will always deactivate her traps. While she's still really good despite her weakness, she is still somewhat of a feast or famine. So be strategic like SpaceCoconut. Remember her traps are both her chase potential and technical map presence.
- Hillbilly, you have full map presence (Unless the Game or Lerrys) and gen control with him. You have an instadown and your power can help you cut loops or even just to catch up to a survivor. Hillbilly is a consistently strong killer and he will be for years to come.
- Spirit is a really strong mindgame killer. You never know what she's about to do next. This is what makes her really strong. Survivors have a hard time reading your next move, she has no vault animation which is good and her mindgame is out of the charts. Plus her power can also be use to get a hit on people if you read them well enough.
- I mean who else did you expect to be here? Do I even need to explain why Nurse is here. If you don't know why she's the best, well is quite simple. Her power allows her to go threw walls, it is great map presence and her chase potential is just unstoppable. She is undoubtedly the best. No question.
I think that's about everything. See you in the Fog my friend.
With Love, DoomOrb
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With Love, DoomOrb
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Pigs more middle of the pack. She balanced quite well, but needs a few tweaks to her power due to random patches and the creation of EGC. Also her Addons need some serious love.
Top 5 I'll a avoid discussion on. Its beating a dead horse. We need to leave the chapel horse alone he is is danger of dying now D:
Nurse
Spirit
Billy
Huntress
Hag
Freddy/Nightmare tied with Ghostface:
These two I cant explain quite yet. I will say I think both are really really low upper tier or high mid tier. They have everything killers need. GF makes up for his lack of map pressure by being a stealth killer who can continually reapply exposed.
Amanda/Pig: Talk about mindgames we come to Pig. She's really fun and good at certain loops and titles. Her RBT applies a bad ruin and decent map pressure. Her Ambush dash is amazing learn it and you wont regret it. She teaches you simple mechanics really well.
Myers/Shape: amazing mindgame potential. Sadly other then his instadown I dont really like him. Monitor and Abuse paired with Infectious Fright is amazing in Myers. Just because evil within 3 is global does not apply map pressure.
Plague: personal opinion is I hate this killer from both sides. She has great potential, but is average overall. She has very few perks that work well with her since her power actually does not need them. I use Thantophoia and Brutal Strength on her instead of the Enduring Spirit Combo. Corrupted Purge is vital dont waste it.
Legion: Not Nearly as bad as people claim. He is now more skill oriented and fun to play. Has both map pressure and the ability to force people to do non gen stuff.
Trapper: With proper trap placement and a good build Trapper in the right hands can be a monster. Truely do thing his potential is good.
Clown: No pressure map wide. Amazing at ending chases. Has a ton of bugs that should be addressed.
Doctor: Anti loop potential and can tricks he can pull. Sadly if his pallets were like Freddys where you can pull them down he would drastically be better. His biggest issues seem to be he's pretty gimmicky overall with a few tweaks or a switch between treatment and punishment movement speeds he could get better.
Wraith: has lack of map pressure, but has some good chase mechanics and ability to travel quickly across the map. Also innate stealth helps.
Leatherface/Cannibal: biggest issues are his general lack of pressure in chases and map. The slowdown when he revs the chainsaw.
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The reason I made GF lower than Freddy is because Freddy has added map presence and decent chase potential with his snares.
While GF has continuing expose effect, his other aspects like stealth and no red stain are at best mediocre mind game. Plus useless on certain loops.
Freddy us overall better in my eyes.
Amanda/Pig while having decent mindgame and her reverse bear traps are nice. The reason I put her lower is because compared to the ones above she's really not that great. Plus Her reverse bear traps have some luck in them and sometimes don't slow the game down enough. At least Legion's mend is consistent with how it slows the game down. Amanda/Pig isn't super consistent with her power of reverse bear traps. The good thing is that she has a slightly better chase potential than the others.
Myers is decentand has flexibility with his add ons, but I put him below plague because unlike Plague (technically speaking) has infinite 1 hit if survivors don't cleance and if they do cleance well you have a more powerful chase potential than Huntress for a few seconds.
Trapper while I love him, he's a feast or famine killer. He can be either really good or really bad. Yes he can be strong but I put him below because good survivors plus swf can destroy him, plus he's not super consistent and you have to walk around to get his traps unlike Hag and Freddy who can use their traps whenever.
No argument found with Clown.
Wraith Is weak overall and his "stealth" isn't useful aside from bodyblocking which has been nerf recently by reducing killer size.
Leatherface really only good for camping. Pure bottom tier overall.
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Trapper and Clown are too overrated in your list. Even Ghost Face a bit. Also, Hag > Huntress.
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Myers should be a lot higher, I suppose its all about opinions but Myers is at least a top 5 killer for me
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I'd put Wraith and Trapper above Plague
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Trapper I can understand but Wraith, no.
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I'm listing the facts man. MyErs isn't as high people say he is now in days
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I highly disagree but go ahead. GivE me a reason why they're overrated, also no Hag < Huntress
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Huntress is completely destroyed by map design, while Hag can deal with it. Hag is definitely better. For the others, I will give you my reasonings tomorrow, I need to go to sleep now.
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While Wraith has more map presence , Legion (who's above him on my list) Legion has a more guaranteed 1st hit while slowing the game down and has a decent map presence and tracking. Wraith has Mindgame on certain loops and with certain add ons bodyblock, but that's it. SURe other add ons give him tracking but is not great except for the red one.
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I really can't understand why some players have such a high opinion of Ghostface. His power is so easily broken off that he spend most of the games as a basic M1 killer than can shut down his TR from time to time.
Assuming survivor don't see you coming from miles away because they have the better camera or are using any detection perk, his normal stalking speed is atrocious. He need to lean to stalk anything, but the leaning mechanic is very clunky and don't seem to work on some objects. And your target can just be in some dead angle that make it impossibe to stalk. If you try to move around you will likely been seen/heard or waste too much time.
The most reliable way to use Ghostface seems to be as a worse version of Myers, micro stalking what you can on an individual survivor basis before they break your shroud.
This end my Ghostface rant. Thank you.
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Clown is more consistant than Myers. Better chase and his add ons make him stronger applying hinder, exhausted and even expose. Myers has limited expose effect that can run out and sure he can have longer or faster tier 3. Against good survivors iS almost like facing plague without cleansing. Sure he vaults faster and has a bigger lunge attack, it really doesn't matter by all that much. Just Image everyone injured as tier 2 Myers you won't know the difference . Sure There is more to Myers than his tier 2-3 but his tier 1 with scratch mirror is only good in 2 maps at best. Myers Is just too situational while Clown is more consistant .
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I can wait
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I'll be honest, never played Ghostface. His rank is purely OUt of what I've seen and faced against.
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Id say hag is better than huntress simply because her traps are good even on bad maps for her like farm. huntress when faced with a difficult map for her will struggle unlike hag who can just place traps at pallets if there is no better areas and call it a day. hag also has better map pressure due to being able to tp from afar and sneak up to survivors with her small terror radius if you use M&A which you should. also that whole thing about hag being able to have her traps dealt with by teams is a not a problem due to her setting speed and the survivors wasting their time and possibly getting hit if they get greedy. huntress is simply a good chase killer but thats kinda it and hag can do way better in terms of chases and map pressure.
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Hag is stronger than Huntress, but the 1 reason why I put her lower than Huntress is because of 1 simple thing. swf. Back when I was a rank 4 Hag swf woulD deactivate my traps and go to loops that were no traps and yes I was setting traps but someone always had to deactivate them. I felt so powerless . huntress is hurt by maps and you can learn to deal with them and even keep your threat in the chase. hag- as much as I used to love her, swf don't even give her a chase to down anyone, at least Huntress can down swf
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I play rank 1 hag every reset and can see your point but im assuming you dont play her constantly like i got her to p3 all perks and ran out of green addons with 40 yellow remaining. when you know what your doing swf's constant trap activation hurts them when you start letting them do there thing and go after the people who are hurt and healing. i use NC and M&A so i often end up killing a survivor early when i face a team like this when usually id just ignore the unhooked but try hards are met with try hard gameplay.
edit: also teams like this are rare so its not to much of a problem when you just need to change your gameplay.
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I’d switch the Hag with Huntress and the Clown with Myers.
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Also, Amanda is very underrated. She has so much in her kit. On demand stealth with no cooldown, a dash attack that can make some short loops unsafe, and a whole mini game to waste the survivors time.
The effectiveness of the RBT is random, but as long as survivors don't find the key in the first box, you can feel the difference they make. And once in a while you'll get a head pop, wich ironicaly can be bad for your score, since it can make you miss some hooks.
Amanda mostly suffer from very underwhelming, to useless add-ons, but as far as base M1 killers go, she probably is the best of them.
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You've convinced me. I will switch them.
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I respect your respectable disagreement.
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She's not good enough for me to put her higher than what she is now.
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Hag and Huntress changed due to valid argument made. Clown and Myers is still pending but found no reason to switch them yet.
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Yeah, Umbra which is like the best Huntress player - has said that Hag is better than Huntress. She can cope with maps better, smaller height allows for more mind games, has better map prescence, can snowball harder, etc.
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Ok, so here we go.
Trapper has the most amount of counter play in the game, he is the most add-on reliant killer and probably the weakest killer against a SWF team. He wastes around 1-3 gens to set traps that most likely won't do anything, which can be easily disarmed and they are also countered by Toolboxes, Dead Hard and walking around ( his trap hitboxes are ######### sometimes ) and on top of that, his traps are still RNG, you are not a guarantee down with them unless you are already on top of the survivor.
Clown is a M1 killer with a weak chase power and without mobility, map pressure, stall or stealth, he is very add-on reliant ( Flask of Bleach should be in his base kit ), his power has a very easy counter ( drop pallets earlier ) and he is very buggy ( bottles exploding in his hands, slow down after throwing his bottles ).
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Wraith belongs in the middle. His increased speed while being cloaked gives him some map control and makes him better than other M1 killers like Doc, Trapper or Pig. Also (like Pig) he has a built-in Borrowed Time counter.
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Does this list include no add ons? Clown is a very weak killer but if you have the add on that causes the exposed status effect he can down people fast. Myers is also weak but with the infinite tier 3 addon he becomes a lot stronger, way stronger than ghost face imo. A nurse with no addons isn't as strong as spirit without addons imo. It's not that hard to juke a nurse with only one or two blinks. But a five blink nurse... yeah good luck with that.
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Wraith should be higher, especially higher than Plague. She sucks.
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Finally,someone who recognizes legion's strength
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heck no.
We;; I used to play Legion a lot.
Generally speaking no. Add ons aren't considered though I did mentioned add ons on Myers in my discussion.
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They changed places already. Leave the chapel horse alone as is in danger of dying.
Trapper is a strategy killer. His potential can be strong if The Trapper plays like a mastermind. Sue he is beaten by swf but the same can be said to a lot of the killers, especially Hag and Hag is 4th ranking on this list.
Does it make them less viable? In a way but it never stops their potential. Trapper does have potential if you play him well enough. Trapper can be strong if you use him the right way.
As for clown, the buggs are more of the devs fault so I won't even consider this as a valid argument to drop Clown off the tier, and as for his power, his power is to make sure loops are lessened. He forces people to shorten loops getting pallets down early and window loops are lessened greatly because of him, he usually gets a hit off from Window loops. He's overall a decent killer in the chase.
I still see no reason why you keep beating up a dead horse.
A bit of map presence doesn't make a killer good. What he does have is a bit more mindgame, but that's about it. Maybe bodyblocking with add ons, but add ons aren't considered in this discussion. Wraith sucks and that isn't going to change until they give him some love.
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I didn't beat any horse.
SWF isn't Trapper's only weakness, I already told you why he is so bad, so I am not gonna start again.
But that's only what Clown does, he shortens loops and nothing else. No map pressure, no mobility, no stall, no stealth, literally nothing, just a weak chase power that makes survivors drop pallets slightly quicker. Any other killer has a power that helps him in other aspects than chases, Clown simply doesn't have. And again, Clown's chase power even isn't too good. He is incredibly laughable, especially without add-ons, without add-ons his gas is worthless.
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Also, do you really want to talk about Nurse vs Spirit? Because you're about to enter a discussion against literally the Best killer in DBD since released.
Nurse's power purely breaks the game. There are no safe havens against Nurse, as windows and pallets don't even exist to her. She is just this momentum killer that downs survivors left and right.
Spirit has a lot of mindgame (which is why I'm trying to master her personally) and her phase walk can be a surprise, and while there are counter measures, there is also counter measures in those counter measures. Spirit is like this killer you can infinetly get good at the more you play. However compared to Nurse, Nurse just ends the chase a lot faster.
If we assume that the Spirit and the Nurse are in an equal level of skill. Nurse would still be faster in the chase and better than the Spirit.
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Shortening loops is generally a good thing, the shorter the loop the more likely you can get a hit. But clearly you don't see that. Neither do you see Trapper's potential. If I had any common sense I would put Trapper Higher, but I didn't because I also viewed his weaknesses.
We're done with this conversation. Any more discussions made by you will be ignored.
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@DoomOrb I didn't say that Wraith didn't "suck". All the killers except for the Top 4 do when you are facing good teams. However, he is better than the majority of the other M1 killers. Increased mobility is an important part of what makes a killer decent.
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Heck yes.
Sure, against highly skilled survivors Wraith has doodoo chase mechanics and weak power, but against most people, he’s solid.
Take those same skilled survivors against Plague and she also has doodoo M1 mechanics plus NO power because good survivors don’t cleanse.
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Not enough to make him higher
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Maybe in your universe yes, but in this one. Not in a million Years. He's dog poop.
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Cool, but then that makes Plague dog diarrhea. You must play at doodoo ranks where survivors actually cleanse 😆
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Thank you for calling me a idiot. Also, shortening loops means nothing if survivors can still stall the chases by dropping pallets earlier and force you to break these pallets and the fact that you don't have anything else to help you outside of chases. Even Clown mains call him ######### with a good reason.
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