Could a burn work on spirit?
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Imho I feel shes perfect (asides for prayer beeds... they can be reworked into something else) .... but I come with this idea because some of the community are frustrated with her so what are the thoughts of a burn for Rin?
I truly dont want her base power being put under the knife because well.... things are just never good afterwards, they just go straight to fooking D tier after visiting bhvr nerfing room
Edit: I'm hoping if anything is planned for spirit that it is sometime after fixated comes out and we can see how that perk effects the game overall...
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Honestly, I feel they can bring the directional phasing sound back.
They still can't hear it in the terror radius.
And I got really good with her BEFORE it was removed, I really felt she never needed a buff. This is an honest to god truth, but noone agrees with me. I played her soooo much upon release and learned how to use her power quickly, the buff made her feel like an unstoppable beast to me.
Sorry, about the Burn, maybe something to do with her Husk? Or if you can manage to burn her invisible body, that might be interesting 🤔
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Maybe not a burn, but rather being able to see her outline during phasing if you catch her in the beam? Gives you knowledge, doesn't ruin the power.
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If Burn's gonna affect her, then it should burn away the husk but force her out of phasewalk. But that's it.
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Make it so we can burn the husk and it will cancel her power
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Yeah I was just thinking that while reading the other thread. So you could do a quick little spinny and reveal her aura but she still wouldn't see you or the light while phasing.
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This is interesting!
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Like during the charge the burn cancels the phasewalk.... and if you shine the light on the husk the husk breaks..
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The Perk fixated will very good counter her
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I'm looking forward to it.... hopefully fixated provides what the part of the community needs when going against the spirit...
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I disagree, I don't want Spirit to be hard countered by flashlights, we have Wraith for that.
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I really like this idea actually...
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Burn mechanics are trash. You shouldn't be able to completely circumvent a killer's entire power.
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Yup burn the husk the husk breaks cancels phasewalk
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Tbh I like the idea of revealing her aura if you shine the light on her while shes phaswalking better then the burn...
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At least an indication of her Phasing or just standing still would make it much more fair to verse her.
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Or just use urban evasion
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you're honestly not wrong. it shouldve been nondirectional phasing or you can't hear the phase sound in terror radius, not both
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The only thing I could remotely come close to thinking about bringing back is the sparkly husk...
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Negative they changed the lullaby to non directional for reasons it hinders the killer too much.... she had way too much drawback compared to what she put out...
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Right now you can Burn the Husk. Or at the very least determine that it's the husk and not the Spirit, using a flashlight.
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You can actually blind her if she tries that mindgame where she stands still and pretends to phase. It's happened to me before :/
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At least theres some sort of thought going on here and not trying to trash another killer for convenience-_- the outline idea may not be bad..its still be risky due to the clicky noise so it's still not a total negation but risk vs reward..finally productive convorsation
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Proposed Alternative Prayer Beads effect: During Haunting, your Terror Radius affects the entire map.
This makes it so survivors still can't hear her phasing sound, but also gives all survivors a heads up warning that she's phasing and puts them under the effects of any TR perks. I believe it would be a fair trade. Most players hate Prayer Beads because they allow her to pull off quick grabs from gens, totems, hooks, and switches without giving them any warning. This way, they'll have plenty of warning, but still won't be able to tell if she's coming after them or someone else, and letting spirit get usage out of perks like Coulrophobia, Unnerving Presence, and Overwhelming Presence could make for some fun builds.
As for the Flashlight burn thing, trying to focus a flashlight on a killer moving at 6+m/s, or just scanning around with one just to see if she's headed your way is a silly waste of the flashlight. Alternatively Focusing it on her husk already tells you if shes faking her phase or not, and if it canceled out her ability and stunned her, it would be a bit too broken. We already have perks like Spine Chill that tell us if she's coming our way while phasing, so there's really no need for her to have a power that can be canceled by survivors at any given time.
Take Wraith for example: He's translucent, needs to ring a bell to announce he's coming out of it, moves slower during the uncloaking transition, and can be flashlight burned/stunned at any time while cloaked. There's a reason that, after his update, he's still considered a low tier killer and no one ever complains about his Ultra Rare add-on that makes his bell silent.
If flashlight burning was introduced as a counter to Spirits power, there would be no need to rework Prayer Beads as it might become the only way she ever surprises anyone, and due to this massive weakness I'm betting her high rank viability would drop a tier. I've been happy about Spirit ever since she came out because now instead of just Nurse and Billy, we also get Spirit in the high ranks. However, I am starting to notice more Freddy's there now, so maybe dropping her down to mid-tier would be okay since he can replace her. It's not like anyone ever complains about how the high ranks don't have enough killer diversity right?
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Instead of nerfing Spirit and making her drop some tiers, let's buff other killers, so they can go up in the tier lists, so we can finally see more than just Nurse, Billy and Spirit in red ranks.
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I agree, except not all killers are able to get on that tier level. Their powers simple don’t give them enough chase potential or map pressure to compete with Nurse, Spirit, Billy, and Hag. You can buff Leatherface so he doesn’t get slowed by revving his chainsaw or Trapper by making it so he starts with ALL of his traps but even then they can’t pressure multiple places like Hag and Billy or end a chase as quickly as Nurse and Spirit.
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######### no.
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No one complains about his silent bell because it's not even supposed to be an ultra rare, it was and always will be a brown add-on to me.
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That's what I was hoping to get out of this.... it's very refreshing actually lol
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The difference from the wraith is that she's actually good.
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Indeed
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And ? I still don't want her power to be in the hands of survivors.
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I just dont want her power butchered by Dr. Nerfing at bhvr head quarters and with enough complaints from a portion of the community and content creators pushing the portion of the community, eventually something will happen.... its happening to Nurse and let's face it, slight adjustments to her base kit are not going to be slight... ove got no confidence in the devs nerfing killers since freddy, legion, plague etc..... if they actually make "slight" adjustments to nurse and she comes out still strong AF and is still queen I'll be more confident for them........ but atm I'd rather them stick a burn on her and have the survivors have to find her while shes in phasewalk ---> this would be more interactive and rewarding to the survivors if they find her which will be a lot more difficult than burning the poor wraith.
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I still disagree, I don't like killers being hard countered by a single item. She would be like Hag, with a good power, but probably unplayable against teams with flashlights. She is a 110% speed killer with a cooldown, her power shouldn't be in the hands of the survivors in any way possible.
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Survivors also shouldn't need to run specific perks just to be able to counter two of the killers, but that's where we're at. I agree with your point, but it really does go both ways with this issue.
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Survivors dont need to run any perks to be successful against her.... as I said I'm my OP I believe shes perfect as is now.... this is a way though that the devs dont mess with her power because eventually bhvr will end up making changes to stop the portion of the community that you happen to be apart of from complaining...
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Burn's a bad call. It gives people an easy out from the mindgames of Spirit if you bring or find a flashlight. I don't think that is particularly fair to the Spirit player. You could make the argument that Nurse has a burn and doesn't suffer from it. Yet, you also have to take into account Nurse doesn't respect terrain and by default is much faster in blink than Spirit is in phasewalk. Considering a lot of mindgames with spirit happen at jungle gyms and palettes and consist of calculated moments of inaction and flicking between phasing... Giving someone a burn would be less than optimal.
We've seen how burn works against Wraith. A team who just favors flashlights for everyone tends to nuke Wraith quite a bit or at least in the past they did. I'm not up on current day Wraith nuking stats.
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I'd be up for this suggestion.
However, since the M1 Killers are still in the same state as before, I don't believe, the only viable Killers should be receiving some heavy or huge nerf, until the M1 Killers would be buffed, to at least, Billy Junior's level.
For example, MacMillan could receive a X % Haste status effect for placing a trap, there may be an Add-on, that causes Broken status effect - Not the Mangled, but Broken, (...).
There are so many possible ways, but nothing is happening... Which is, truly a shame.
Not that it'd make the game more fun for the Killers, but for Survivors too - They'll be finally able to play against different Killers than just against Rin, Sally, Lisa, or Billy Junior.
...Touché.
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I'd rather have the aura/outline reveal then the burn as well it brings more then just the stun and an unhappy player since stuns are unfun AF...
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Or just make players rely on their eyes instead of ears, it's too easy to hear people while Phasing now, i remember bugged footstep sounds where it was almost not possible to hear survivors footsteps, that was the time she wasn't that strong and yet she could have been very dangerous.
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I'd rather her stay as is.... I said in my op..... I feel shes perfect! as she is but something tells me shes going to be next on the list.... even though plenty of killers need help... by going for nurse it seems the devs took the other road of nerfing killers instead of adding more variety to the red rank.
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So that every time she uses it at a pallet she is either :
A-blinded or
B- has her power cancelled.
Seems like power in the hands of survivors again...
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Yeah that idea wouldnt work at all... the player with the flashlight would be in god mode until the flashlight got used up...
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At 2:22 does it count? It even stops the Legions power at 1:53 Firecrackers only work once but they're pretty common so you guys could maybe try it out and see how it works.
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