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A perk I rarely see talked about
So, a perk that I have a huge issue with (and I feel others theoretically would too) is Rancor. But I rarely see it talked about. The instant kill of the obsession seems cheap and undeserved, even from a killer standpoint. And the instant down is a Noed that you can't cleanse. It's basically like...one free kill at the end with no counterplay? Or am I just missing it? Idk I don't use it because I think it's cheap but maybe others don't use it because they think it's not powerful? I'm legitimately asking
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It is actually rarely used... I barely see someone using Rancor. It jsut seems too weak compared to NOED tbh..
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The reason few people use Rancor is that the survivor is alerted to the fact that the killer has Rancor very early into the match, and knows from that point onward that they had better not be anywhere near the killer when there is only one generator left to go, and that they should leave the gates to other survivors. As a result Rancor is only anything close to a guaranteed kill if the killer is running a host of other endgame tracking perks, and at that point they are letting the others escape just to tunnel one player.
The only killer I ever used Rancor on was Old Freddy, because so long as you didn't put the obsession to sleep, or at least they were awake when any generators were finished, they would never know you have Rancor until the final generator pops at which point it is too late for them.
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I kinda like rancor but the obsession can easily just stealth their way out, it typically works for me.
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i dont mind going against this perk with ds, a strong advantage with a strong disadvantage, but it feels so unfair when i don't run any obsession perks and still get the obsession with the killer using rancor
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you're just missing it.. it provides basic location upon each generator started that gives you at best a general idea of where survivors are.
the counter for rancor / obsession is for the obsession not to be an a-hole. it's unlucky for me when i'm rancor's obsession, only because i like maximizing BP during endgame collapse. when i am rancor, i have to just leave without any extra fun endgame if i want to leave.
i am aware that i can be 1 hit downed and mori'd for free if i stay. it only effects me, not other survivors, so in essence it does have counter play, you just leave.
if you happen to be getting chased when the gates are powered as the obsession, you either just had an unlucky ending, or you were being an a-hole and the killer may very well deserve a little payback, not uncommon for people who choose to be the obsession.
i dig rancor, even tho a lot of the time if the survivors weren't little b's i'll let them go anyway. it just provides a little "insurance" against a little b is all..
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The thing about rancor is your either going to catch your obsession, be bodyblocked denying the kill, never see your obsession or they are going to immediately leave. Tbh it's not really worth the slot
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Rancor gives you 7 very distinct warnings not to ######### with the Killer after the gens are done. So it's incredibly easy for the Obsession to avoid getting moried and it only gives limited knowledge to the killer in exchange.
The only thing Rancor really has going for it, is it can reduce the number of body blocking BT hook divers at the end of the match by one.
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Rancor for me is just a free mori for daily.
Other than that, I never use it. And was used against me only once. I got sluged when 1 gen was left(after I used ds, so I was the obsession for about a minute) and he just stood there waiting for the gen to pop. Everyone else escaped
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I really felt that Rancor was just a bandaid fix for old DS. That if somebody ran it, you could ignore them until endgame and mori them.
I hate that it punishes people who dont even run anything mean though, especially since the mom/ds nerfs
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Rancor is the epitome of bad perk design.
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Furtive chase exists.
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And so does Dying Light in the PTB. -Sigh- Now THAT is bad perk design. If it rolls out like that, it will usurp Monstrous Shrine's throne.
Anyway. Rancor isnt talked about much because is rarely used. The few times its mentioned is because someone got salty they didnt know how to hide. Its not an undeserved insta-down/mori at all. It is literally the only perk and reason why Survivors should fear being the Obsession, which was part of the focus of implementing the Obsession system. Previously it was Dying Light, but that is getting a rework. All other Obsession perks revolve around keeping you alive the longest and/or actively ignoring you.
Considering that, as the Obsession, you have PLENTY of time to figure out Rancor is in play, and therefore plenty of time to play around it, I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. And even if you do get hit by Rancor, you survived all the way to the end, so you had your fair chance to earn a big amount of points. And since the Killer will generally not focus on downing you to make use of it, thats even more of a chance.
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No counter play?
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Stealth?
Don't let the killer catch you?
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I faced few Rancors and the number I got recently moried with is 0. I am playing on purple / red ranks.
Also, that perk is worthless if you want to win games in general. "Wow you can MAYBE kill one Survivor at the very end of game". You can pick so many perks that can help you during whole game and kill Survivors and you pick.... this.
It's not that big of the deal and most killers I face never play this perk.
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Rancor seems to me like a cheap gamble perk. I think most people avoid it because it constrains your gameplay in such a manner that it makes you do things you dont want to do as killer, when it would otherwise seem natural.
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I gave rancor a shot earlier today because I was toying with an aura build and expected it would be great for it. It SEEMED like it would be, but you don’t get an aura like bbq, just a quick screen of where they were when the gen popped, so if you aren’t close close its essentially useless. And it seems to speed the game up rather than slow it down, swf maul people with it, and most importantly it lets your obsession see you. The downfall cancels out the advantage. I was underwhelmed and disappointed with it. Bitter murmur Is better if that tells you anything...
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As a Survivor---Hooray I'm special, I get to give the Killer a Mori if I get caught
As a Killer---Ok I can see someone is over there and they got past me somehow, nice. Ah crap all the Gens are done maybe I can find my Obsession and get at least 1 kill, nah they were cowards and they just left :( no one likes Moris :(
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I'm not too bothered by Rancor though it does feel cheap or suck to receive a Rancor mori when the Survivor didn't run any Obsession perks. I had one match where a Clown gave up cause he was failing to get hooks on the other Survivors that had flashlights with them. He just wandered around and didn't attack anyone, and I felt bad for him. Well here he comes with 1 Gen left and I realize the danger I'm in if I pop the Gen so I hide. The other 3 pop a gen across the map and light me up for him to see. He quickly stomps my head. He apologized in the after chat (unprovoked to do so) but it still sucked hard.
Overall though, i don't mind the perk and don't really want to see it nerfed. At least it isn't Ebony Mori or Prayer Beads level of obnoxious!
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Being able to stab the killer after jumping in a locker feels kinda undeserved. It's not like you have to deserve the use of perks. Perks are there to support you in your trial. xD
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I just thought of something. With the new Dark Sense, you will receive no warning that the killer has Rancor.
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I think Rancor is a far better designed End Game Perk than NOED. It helps to get a Kill, but does not completely reward bad gameplay and only affects one person.
But I also think that Rancor lost its purpose. Before it was quite nice to get the guy who had DS. Like - this is the Obsession, he has DS, he will die later without using it. But with the current Obsession mechanic it feels kinda meh.
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What's new dark sense do?
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Never got hit, outplayed a Rancor Spirit, left, crappy perk design, kinda like old Dying Light.
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Rancor is rarely talked about?
Mettle of Man wants to talk to you now
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Same thing as old dark sense, but you don't need to finish the gen yourself
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A bunch of perks are getting buffs! I like it.
First Left Behind, then Dying Light, now Dark Sense... I might actually use these perks now!
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