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How Would You Buff Ghostface?

I would reduce the range at which he can be detected, reduce his power cool-down from 30 seconds to 20, and remove the 0.3 second discern buffer survivors get when revealing his power

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  • TATAHARAMBE
    TATAHARAMBE Member Posts: 120

    wdym? ghostface is the most op killer *sarcasm

  • LCGaster
    LCGaster Member Posts: 3,154

    Reducing the cool down would be nice

    The reveal mechanic to him is a bit complicated, I don't really know how to buff that one

  • Spooky13
    Spooky13 Member Posts: 1,485

    Reduce Night Shroud's cooldown, and change his addons as such.

  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,101

    What Ghostface needs is quite simple really


    Reduced cooldown, fixing the reveal HB, etc

  • Tzeentchling9
    Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796

    Reduce cooldown.

    Slugs and hooked Survivors can not reveal him.

  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,599

    I don't think he's as bad as people make him out to be myself. Now that he's not as loud as a 18 wheeler going through a warehouse of glass anyway.....

  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,101

    He isn't that bad, but he needs buffs still


    This is coming from a GhostFace main

  • SpaceCoconut
    SpaceCoconut Member Posts: 1,962

    Since they made the detection range wider, they should have compensated by making the base distance of detection shorter.

    The lag time between being detected and not should be taken care of as well.

    It's upsetting when you're being detected and you duck behind a wall but still get revealed even though you've broken LoS.

    He's kind of map dependent, so the detection aspect of the Ghost should be balanced with that in mind.

  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,599

    I wouldn't say "coming from a ghostface main" as it's meaningless.

    You could either be biased toward a killer you like or just making it up.

  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,101

    I am very VERY strict when it comes down to balancing, if something feels off about my main then I try to find out whats wrong, in a balanced way


    For example, GhostFace's main issues that I have seen is Corn, open maps, HB on reveal, cooldown time, and slugging/hooked survivors revealing him

  • Iceman
    Iceman Member Posts: 1,457

    @BlueFang

    Survivor stalked meter never goes away until they have been exposed.

    So if you stalk a survivor half way, and then manage to down them with out exposing them. The stalk meter does not reset.

    This will always keep survivors on their feet.

  • Mochan
    Mochan Member Posts: 2,886

    Your bad at grammar. The correct topic is:

    "Would you buff Ghostface?"

    And the correct answer is

    "NO."

  • BlueFang
    BlueFang Member Posts: 1,379
    edited September 2019


    Hive-Mind theory about Feng Meng players is getting closer to being confirmed

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555

    I probably wouldn't buff him at all, personally. I've never felt like he's weak. Maybe a slightly shorter cooldown if you really want to split hairs, but I find him to be just fine as is.

  • Shad03
    Shad03 Member Posts: 3,732

    You're not really in a position to talk about grammar there, cause your you're forget the 're.

    Anyways, my opinion is that Ghost Face needs a minor tweak (stalking in corn, power cooldown) but otherwise, he is good where he is.

  • Kenshin
    Kenshin Member Posts: 912

    yeah his cooldown on the power is way too long. it should be reduced by 5-10 seconds.

  • BloodyNights
    BloodyNights Member Posts: 526

    I generally prefer stealth killers like Myers and Ghostface. I don't really feel like he needs any major buffs. Only thing I'd probably do is reduce the cool down of his power.

    Though honestly playing against him as survivor I feel like he is either super easy to knock out of stalk, or impossible even if I've got him completely centered and two inches away from my face. But that is probably a me problem, though I've heard others complain about it as well. So if there was a way to both buff him maybe on distance, but make him a little easier to knock out when you are obviously looking right at him. I'd appreciate that.

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,773

    He's fundamentally flawed design-wise in that it takes one survivor 1.2 seconds to take away the killer's only power for 30 seconds. He has absolutely nothing else going for him outside of Night Shroud. I would reduce the cooldown to 15 or 20 seconds and remove the cancelling on missed attacks and stuns. You can still maintain line of sight on both sides of a wall as a survivor. It's not as if hiding the red stain equates to an automatic hit. There still seems to be this line of thinking among the balance team that survivors can't move their cameras.

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 10,466

    Daily training routine.

    Start with 100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, and 100 teabags.

    Followed by a brisk 6.2 mile run. Half normal, half stalking.

    Make sure he eats three balanced meals a day and soon will be unbeatable.

  • n2njauwu
    n2njauwu Member Posts: 300

    yes in lower ranks . but vs good survivors not even toxic ones he is weak as hell ,,,, he is the only killer that survivor can fully counter and quite easily . im not toxic or anything but if you devs claim he is to be fine , i would love some of your streams as ghostface in red ranks , to prove me i am bad or blind that i dont see some light in him

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 9,513

    I'd remove the reset meter stalk function on-hit. He'd be able to manage his stalk on survivors which in my opinion is difference between mediocre ghostface and a really good ghostface. It sucks to waste time building near-full stalk, then get spotted and all your work vanish upon hitting a survivor. Imagine if T3/T2 myers lost evil within every time he hits someone.

  • Acromio
    Acromio Member Posts: 1,737

    He doesn't need buffs, but rather a full fledged rework.

  • Horus
    Horus Member Posts: 850

    Reduce his cooldown

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555

    Of course. If you ever stop by, just ask and I'm play a couple rounds with him. I can't guarantee I'll do amazing every round (I really shouldn't, I don't play him enough to be amazing at him), but I've had some pretty good success in red ranks.

  • mistar_z
    mistar_z Member Posts: 857
    edited September 2019

    I wouldn't. I would actually nerf him if I could. E.i Losing stalk when survivors aren't running or doing any actions, ala the Doctor's madness or the Plague's Sickness.


    The problem with ghostface is that he's stupid inconsistent for both sides. Bullshit reveals on killer side and also bullshit detection on the survivor sides. Making both sides feel ######### and unfair to play against, because everything feels so random and buggy. Buffing him would make playing against him completely insufferable.


    It was even worse during the ptb server tests.

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  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,773

    Agreed. It's almost like the vast majority of the community that played and saw the PTB said "This can't work in practice. He's going to get bullied." And what sucks is that he's maybe the most fun killer when you actually get him to work. But they instead seemingly rushed out this buggy killer that is virtually unplayable against SWF.

  • n2njauwu
    n2njauwu Member Posts: 300

    ye the problem with gf is in the design , in most cases the more you play something the better snowballs/plays you can make . unfortunately that is not the case with ghostface , his problem is that; the higher level of gameplay the weaker he gets due to survivors holding the stick of the power . its not in gf hands if he wins or not its all about survivors sadly , his ability not to mention terribly long cd , im fine with counterplay but this is overkill, if he has that much counter on survivor side why he doesnt have tools as nurse has , .. on nurse you need juke her break line of sight and she has strongers chases mobility , and on ghostface you just need to look at him with 3rd pov camera ,,,,

    TL:DR ' he is fun killer to play at yellow green ranks , when you play him at red rank you are a masochist and want to feel pain :) or just hardcore scream fan <3

  • n2njauwu
    n2njauwu Member Posts: 300

    yes that is possible im sure there are wraith and bubba mains in red ranks who make op plays even though there arent many , its just with ghostface its all about map you get and if survivor is streaming and reading chat or not wearing glasses to 360 patrol while doing generator .

    its not like ghostface is weakest killer in dbd , in terms of power he is myers lvl but not counting to that counter play :) , its more about ghostface beeing the most frustraiting killer to play , if you get at 1st 20 seconds of the match cancel out of your power you are like i dont want dc to ruin all people game but this is gg for me , why ( because not only you cant use power for 30 seconds , you also cant move from that area else you wont be able to sneak into people because you are 32 tr ,

    idk maybe its just me but this breaking out mechanic is really not fun as a killer . i understand where its coming from , to force gf to play more stealth style rather than be like myers , but its just sad :(

  • SpyMature
    SpyMature Member Posts: 204

    tbh, the buff that Ghostface would really need is a shorten cooldown after he downs a marked survivor, it's pretty crippling when you down a marked survivor, hook him, and you just have to kinda walk around the map with no pressure or any killer power whatsoever until it slowly charges back up so you could continue being immersed and sneak up on survivors, it's the worst feeling.

  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293
    • His power needs to be consistent first of all.
    • Decrease the cool down of Night Shroud.

    See how he functions after these changes and tweak numbers if necessary.

  • n2njauwu
    n2njauwu Member Posts: 300

    i was thinking at the start why did counter to ghostface didnt go the other way .

    why not looking at him for a time it takes it to break him make it so that for next 1 minute he cant stalk you . it would prevent annoying for survivors 99 % (because you would be punish more for tunnel survivor by 99 % because the cooldown would be 1 minute since penalty of 1 minute no stlaking ) but you could still be able use your power in 2 diffrents scenarios 1 ) mindgame with no on some loops or 2) just change the target leave that poor survivor alone and lets sneak onto another survivor


    i loved that dbd made ghostface , i always played in all types of games assasssins types of characters and i still play ghostface just hoping somethinig could be done about making him less punishable

  • Kenshin
    Kenshin Member Posts: 912

    its just unfun to have to wait years for his power to come down from this huge cooldown.

  • Kabu
    Kabu Member Posts: 926

    I don't really have video proof that I can post here. But, I do consistently well with Ghostface at red ranks though he is one of the more difficult killers to use. If I'm not in the right mindset then I'll probably lose.

  • After playing rounds with him, the only buff he needs is on the cooldown section (ofc addons need to be tweaked if he gets a lower cooldown) but 30 seconds is too much and makes CD addons kinda a must.