If you are going to allow easy grouping..
Then you need to put a skull or something over everyones name in a group.
I am stick of going against 4 stack after 4 stack.
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so even more people will dodge? no thanks
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Oh gee is like no one wants to play against four dillholes using voice chat to cheat, and share information to get an unfair advantage.
Imagine that.
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voice chat is cheating btw. LOL
and I don't wanna face nurses and spirits. can I get a symbol so I know what killer I'm about to face so I can dodge too?
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You might want to try a different game.
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At this point i just want people to stop complaining about this.
Shall we summarize? Swf is an unfair advantage that most groups are too bad to make use of. It’s also one of the few reasons people have kept playing the game; so the devs will not be discouraging it any time soon. Thus complaining about this ad infinum really won’t go anywhere and never even brings up anything new ar this point.
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If you want to play against less of them than ask the devs to make other killers better. Otherwise be thankful billy at least isn’t the only killer people play lol.
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@SaltySwag BHVR is not going to do anything to encourage more lobby dodging against people playing with friends. I'm saying this as a Killer main. Either accept playing against SWF, or Dead by Daylight just isn't the game for you.
@brokedownpalace @Redd Precisely. SWF has been around long enough by now, and with the recent patch that made grouping and staying as a group even easier, you'd think people would just accept reality at this point. SWF isn't going anywhere, us Killer aren't getting indicators for them, or extra BP for them, or any thing else. Either accept SWF, or see what other games are out there.
It's is what it is.
Me? I just accept them. SWF on comms here, or a 4-6 stack on the opposing team in Overwatch all coordinating on comms while I'm SoloQ'ing and on a team of all randoms none of which are on comms, it's the nature of the beast in PvP gaming. You roll the dice and hope for good match-RNG.
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I play with one other person sometimes, but we never use voice chat. Don't assume that people who are partied up in SWF use voice chat.
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Well, we don't want to play against no woosh ebony mori spirit, yet it happens.
^ also what person above me said!
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I mean, i do, but the suggestion I made wasn't serious.
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This friends list changes only made it so SWF was easier to get together instead of inviting one another. These changes are pointless, and would lead to more dodging. Not to mention... voice communication programs aren’t cheating. It’s like a 4-6 stack on OW, like someone said. Just play against it.
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Think of it this way. You get better a lot faster. You slowly learn which gens to patrol and which to give up and when to leave a person slugged and when to immediately hook. It took me a while to get over swf and to this day I have a stigma against 2 or more blendettes. It just takes time but you will get better against them. Hell, I feel so satisfied knowing I wrecked a 3-4 man swf using comms. Or, when they beat my ass I know what I should have done differently. Unfortunately, nothing devs can or will do against them. They bring the most money.
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Nope, we just need a reward for dealing with a swfs like 25% per person in swfs rewarded to only the killer
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SWF isn't cheating its apart of the game. Not all folks that load in at once are SWF and not all great teams that work well together SWF.
I get that you're frustrated, believe me I do. I've found that the best way to work with whatcha got but use it to your advantage. If you suspect SWF shark the area because they tend to be around. They tend to be really altruistic many times to their own detriment.
Use the Legion's perk so you can tell when 2 people are working on gens.
Use spies in the shadows so when unhooking and they run you can choose who to go after.
Run BBQ + Whispers and if you see only 2 auras then you know they are by you.
Put MYC so that you can get an insta down.
Any combination of those but try to have 1 tracking perk, 1 gen perk, 1 end game perk and 1 notification perk. I find using one of each really helps.
I get it and I hope that you get better matches in the future 👍
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How the ######### can people come to those conclusions? Have read it before in the Forum.
And well... You face the same people when facing SWF. They just have it easier to get back into the Lobby. Thats all. There is no ingame Advantage for them which they did not have before. It is just quality of life.
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Hard disagree and most people will disagree as well. They have the ability to communicate situations. Not saying all SWF use comm systems but a majority do and they're the ones with the much easier time in the game. Say you're getting chased and you have your 2-3 friends on gens. You can tell them where your at and which pallets you've used. Then you get hooked and you tell them where killer is heading. You spotted a totem while being chased? Tell your friends. Solo's simply do not have this kind of access to information. It's not just quality of life. It's an advantage. Is it unfair? Eh, yeah. Everyone knows it. We're all just waiting patiently for devs to finally up the solo game.
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Thats not what I mean.
If you have Person A, B, C and D in a SWF nowadays, you would have had them in a SWF one week before as well. The difference is that A, B, C and D do not need to invite each other after every game.
And that they dont have to invite each other has exactly no impact on the game for the Killer.
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7 4 stacks tonight. 4 of them were 4ks, 1 3k, 1 2k, and one I got owned in, but was oddly fun. SWF is what it is. Most are not very good.
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Ah, my b my guy. Thought you were saying no advantage to SWF. I get what you mean and yeah new lobby system doesn't mean anything tbh. Just want to be able to switch from killer to survivor more easily again
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When I do swf we tend to die or mess around. If they are altruistic use it to your advantage. If not better hope they can't loop you for 5 gens. Take a break from this game if it you need it.
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