Why do the developers favor survivors so hard at the high ranks?

Really wish I had a screenshot of Old Freddy 4king at rank 1. Well said though.

Short answer is they don't.

Long answer is that while it might seem that way it's obvious from changes that happen at all levels that they are trying to make it less stifling against survivors at high ranks without making it even harder for them at low ranks. The nature of the game is that at rank 20, you get dumpstered as a fresh survivor. You don't know how to loop, where gens are, how to evade a killer and what perks to look for. As killer in those ranks just basic m1 play will get you consistent 4k's, gens take forever because new survivors can't do skill checks and will abandon a gen the moment they hear a heartbeat and hooking one will make the other three crouch in the grass wondering what to do.

At high ranks they know what to do, don't waste time and make chases last longer with looping. It's strong, it makes it hard as killer but it's difficult to nerf rank 1 survivors without nerfing rank 20s even worse so next time you want to throw shade at the devs try putting thought into how you think they would actually do that. I'm sure good suggestions would be appreciated.

This is pretty much what I meant to say.

The power difference between average and genuinely good survivors is a symptom of how the game is balanced, the devs don't intentionally tweak the game to make it that way. Same reason a lot of killers have a very low skill floor and often limited realistically achievable skill ceiling as well - the devs balance around average players as opposed to the top.

It's because the majority has unfortunately never reached rank 10 and the devs are balancing around them.

@themirrortwin I think that in this reply you are moving the goal post slightly. First, you absolutely do not need to use the holy trinity of Spirit, Nurse, or Billy to be successful at rank one. Just look at @GrootDude with his Leatherface.

However, the clown is not very viable at red ranks. Unfortunately, not every character or hero in a PvP game is going to be viable. There will always be some that just don't do well against highly skilled opponents due to weaknesses in their core design. Clown definitely seems to be one of them. This isn't unique to DbD.

But Clown is not an example of the game being survivor sided. He's an example of lack-luster design left to rot for too long.

@Omans And to be honest, as an Overwatch player since launch day, I've seen the exact, same posts over there. The other thing is, as I mentioned above in regards to his clown comment, an unfortunate by-product of any hero or character based PvP game is that there are inevitably going to be some that are just not decent picks at the high ranks against very experienced opponents. Clown is one of them here. Overwatch has its share as well. As does Paladins, and even the MOBA of your choice.

Sometimes as a Meta shifts, some of those outliers might get their spot. Look at how long it took Orisa to become Meta.

Unfortunately, BHVR has done next to nothing to help shift the Meta here in DbD in at least two years, and takes way too long to try to make weak-designed killers more viable. Look at how long it took them for Freddy. Clown has needed help for far too long now. And it isn't like they have a mega-investor backed pro-scene to worry about like Blizzard does with the OWL, where, right or wrong, they worry about changes and how that might shift things and hurt viewership over there. Look at what GOATS did to it, and now Double Barrier is starting to take a toll.

BHVR doesn't even have that to concern itself with, and is still slow enough that a snail looks like a jack rabbit.

@GrootDude But unless I am wrong, you have hit red ranks on LF, yes? And been successful with him?

I'm not too concerned with your current rank only 10 days after a reset and with a bugged to hell and back matchmaker going on.

I'm already losing about 2 weeks of this current reset due to the matchmaker and refusing to play until it's fixed. And with my limited time as it is, I doubt I will climb much in only a little over two weeks. Next reset I am going to be way, way down in the grays.

At this point, I'll probably just keep myself there and farm BP with BBQ, gen kicks, chases, and maybe one sacrifice a match. And just let survivors escape so I don't pip too much as I try to unlock decent builds.

I get it, lol. I spent ALOT of time with old Freddy. I just dont take many screenshots.

Preach!

Because devs balanced the game on lower rank, especially not so optimal and coordinated survivors.

As soon as survivors play optimal and coordinate each other, this game will automatically get imbalance.

Every killer should on the same level as nurse, billy, spirit at map / gens control and also should be able down survivors very quick.

Many survivor main are very proud when they are successfully destroy and bully weaker killer multiple times and even insulting them directly or indirectly, but then complaining the most when against strong killer with reason stressful and unfun.

Do you think play as a weak killer is fun and not stressful? Already did the best but still the fate of winning or losing is on survivor's hand. Don't be egoist and denial. You play against other human not a toy.

"I'm being called arrogant but your views are a lot more elitist and arrogant than mine."

I have not called you a single name, much less "arrogant". You are confusing me with a different person. Also, none of the things I have said are elitist or arrogant, they are based on thousands of hours of play time at rank 1 and agreed upon by almost all other multi thousand hour players playing at rank 1.

"But I've never denied and have actively stated that this game is not balanced for the upper 1% at the highest ranks."

You say this but your statements are a contradiction to this.

"If it were, the game would die to the sea of blood at all the other ranks where everyone is playing."

As almost every other game balances this way I think that there is much more evidence that it would be absolutely fine.

"Now, let me tell you this. There are lots of killers who don't play the Big 3 and still have success at Red Ranks. Grootdude is one example using Leatherface."

A game here and there, yeah we all do. No one said there aren't lots of potatoes at rank 1 as well. "Consistently" is the key word here as I said before. "Generally" you will lose the majority of your matches playing those lower rank killers at rank 1. Grootdude either isn't playing all these games at rank 1 or I simply do not believe he is "winning" as many games as he says he is. These things I've said are generally agreed on by almost anyone who plays killer at rank 1 consistently.

"I am spreading false information? No. I am objectively correct."

"there are killers who can make mince meat out of survivor teams at Rank 1." Yes, this is giving misleading and false information. Aside from a rare game here and there when you happen to get potatoes or survivors just screwing around you will lose the majority of your games playing an M1 killer at rank 1.

"You are the one spreading wrong information. A lot of killers are spreading this false propaganda that only 3 killers are viable at Red Ranks."

I have thousands of rank 1 hours on both sides to back up my statements and as you've said, you have none. You are literally stating my information as false based on other peoples videos and opinion, not even your own, that is extremely illogical. You haven't even experienced what we are talking about but calling it wrong. This is agreed upon by almost all players who have actually consistently played killer at rank 1 for any meaningful amount of time.

"It may sound arrogant to you killers with huge egos, but the truth is every killer can do well at Red Ranks if you are good enough for it. What I said isn't wrong, but a lot of you are too proud to admit it. So you all believe in this echo chamber group think that the devs are biased against Killers."

The irony of this is that you are literally describing yourself but your ego is too large to see it. You are disagreeing based on NOTHING. You haven't even experienced what we are talking about because you don't play at rank 1 yet still believe you are right.

Probably you never met very optimal survivors. Every streamer that I watched, had at least one very stressful match.

It's not about winning, losing or 4k, but more to fairness when playing killer. With some killer you have to very focus and play perfectly just to prevent being a toy to very optimal survivors.

Even if you pip it doesn't feel worth it, where in other side survivors would guaranteed a black pip without escaping.

Also to summarize:

Winning or losing as a killer is mostly depend on how good the survivors are, not how good you play as killer, especially weaker one, since there are some aspects that out of killer hand.

Don't feel bad about just playing the game. I don't play Killer and I'm a mediocre Survivor, so I haven't experienced this, but from what I've heard, Survivors are significantly advantaged. I dunno if it's as bad as everyone says it is (it's the internet, y'all are hyperbolic as heck) but it definitely seems like something that needs attention if the game is gonna be fun for everyone playing it.