Demogorgon RN imo

I mean hes nothing like the hag or freddy. By your comparison ghostface is another myers or vice versa except one can crouch and the other has 3 levels to the stalking. The huntress and plague are the about the same except one throws hatchets and the other vomits once her vile purge turns into corrupt purge.

Its the difference in powers that makes each killer what they are. You cant just classify one as the others because those 3 have teleport mechanics because all 3 mechanics are actually very different from one another.

Its a shame your not enjoying him but the way you make it sound its as if they were just reskining killers pretty much

I'd argue that Demogorgon is the strongest gen protector with its portals having killer instinct. Killer instinct works vertically as well as horizontally.

Step One: Place portals near gens then activate them.

Step Two: Charge power and listen for heartbeat.

Step Three: Travel to portal with heartbeat.

Step Four: Profit

Once the portals are setup you don't even need to walk to the gens to patrol them. Just use your power. Also, your portals being cleansed is a good thing as the survivors can be ambushed if you are nearby (they don't hear the terror radius), they are cleansing instead of repairing gens, and alerts you to their whereabouts when fully cleansed.

Demo has a lot tracking and information potential as well as being strong with protecting things like the basement, hooks, and gens. In some ways its ability to protect is better than hags as the portals can't be avoided by crouching through or removed with flashlights.

The lunge is great. It can shut down a lot of loops early or grant you a pretty guaranteed hit at vault loops like the shack or L wall+T wall. Get in position to lunge, do not activate the lunge until the moment you see them start the vault animation, otherwise they will attempt to juke anticipating the lunge. Which is great because that will give you time to close the distance while they mindlessly swerve back and forth. Of coarse it can't be used at every single loop. A map dependent ability that rewards patience, much like the Huntress or Billy to a lesser degree.

I will agree though that the portals are very underwhelming. The Undetectable status from portals does nothing against decent players who aren't even paying attention to their surroundings because there is a loud global audio cue when he takes a portal, a local audio cue when he emerges from a portal, and he has the loudest footsteps in the game.

Furthermore, he has to travel through each portal once for them to become active, which also puts the ability on cooldown. Time is the killer's most valuable resource and that is a rather large time investment for a small radius detection. And it's not even an automatic detection, the killer must be channeling "Of the Abyss" (which further slows the Demo's movement speed) to get a notification.

TL;DR = The lunge is fine, portals should be active when they are placed. Having to travel through them to unlock detection seems like a step added unnecessary to an already time consuming process. Maybe look into his audio levels while you're at it.

honestly, the lunge makes him a super unique, fun and honestly pretty good killer.

your ability to cut loops with this is just amazing!

If the cooldown for a missed shred was lowered he'd be way better

It takes 1 second to charge lunge. Pre-charge it as you're rounding into the entrance. The survivor either has to take the window (free hit), throw down the pallet (free shack pallet, even better), or try to juke around expecting you to prematurely lunge (allowing you to close the distance, also a free hit).

It's really not difficult and the bread-and-butter example of Demo quickly ending loops.

Uh... No. I mean it when I say it's really that ######### easy. Maybe you need more time on Demogorgon???? It's really not rocket science. You're literally the only person I've seen try to argue that Demo isn't strong at the shack.

@Blueberry I’d argue his isn’t a “bad Billy”.

His lunge is able to cut off loops a little more effectively than Billy since it charges faster than Billy’s even with the tuning guide. Billy won’t be able to charge his chainsaw fast enough for most jungle gyms while Demo just has to round the corner and lunge. Billy still has the threat of an instadown but if he can’t cut off any loops he is just an M1 killer.

Demo and Billy both still can’t cut off all loops with their power though.

Demo’s lunge goes faster than Billy’s chainsaw. Demo arguably has just as great map control due to the portals and can protect generators just as well.

I don’t see how he is a “bad Billy”. I’d say he is arguably on Billy’s level, but if I had to pick between the two I’d still say Billy is the stronger of the two.

Demogorgon is probably fifth best killer after Nurse, Spirit, Hag, and Billy that order (yes I put Hag over Billy).

Demo is top tier imo. Shuts down loops like a god

Top tier is kinda crowded with Nurse, Spirit, Hag, and Billy.

Demo is REALLY good...just don’t think he is as great as those four. If somebody puts him over Billy I wouldn’t argue it but Hag is a REACH.

I really hate Demogorgon being so loud, he's not nearly as dangerous as other killers but stomps around gurgling about telling survivors pretty much where he is behind a loop wall while also messing with the killer pov hearing as well and is very dependant on if the survivors make a mistake or know where a pallet is.

His portal teleport is way to slow imo, he doesn't one shot and any survivor can cleanse them without any items and he can't move his camera around while traveling through his tunnels.

Over all i think he's a amalgamation of some of the other killers attributes but does all of them worse than they do.

I think he needs more to set him apart from the rest. I think his teleports need more, his gen pressure is really lacking and his chase is weak with his lunge being to restrictive and situational.

I disagree with with him being fine as he is just another m1 killer at the end of the day with a deviousness farming lunge but it may have to do with the maps not really being in the favor of m1 killers in general cause he seems to do alright at the few less ridiculous maps.

Sure it's unique, but in practice I don't think it works very well. In regards to legion he gets the first hit for free and an added heal state to waste time with, Billy has the option of a oneshot if he is not in a loop situation with great map traversal and hag can replace her traps and can teleport instantly when triggered, if you want to compare him to every other killer, I'd do it but I think we know how he compares to everyone else and it'd be wasted time.

No, I agree he is mid tier, he just doesn't do anything better than other killers he borrows from to stand out, he's just mediocre and I think he isn't worth the money to buy him unless you like stranger things or just his look which is all he has going for him imo, even his perks are pretty lackluster.

It's personal preference I suppose if you consider him mediocre, or if he builds upon what hes given. Either way, we may see future buffs to him. We'll maybe even get him to be Top-Tier in the future... who knows.

I just started using him so I don't have many perks, but I've done well at red rank with bbq, ruin, PGTW, and noed

I got to red ranks for the first time as killer with demogorgon, I think it's a pretty solid killer