Time to nerf Freddy

Freddy still the noobstomper N1 😁

I just think at this point too many are distracted trying to get Spirit nerfed but I am pretty sure Fred will quickly become the most hated soon enough.

Just keep playing OP builds guys, you are just hastening his rework.

It's Nerf or NUTHING

Doubt it. Nurse is also still the way she has always been, and more and more people have started to complain about Spirit, people are indeed able to want nerfs to multiple killers. If Spirit gets nerfed, I doubt people will start complaining about Freddy. If there are op builds on Freddy, then those builds need to be nerfed obviously, not Freddy. I believe most people will want to keep Freddy the way he is now. Might be wrong, but hopefully not. He seems like the perfectly balanced killer, with just the right amount of map pressure and chase potential.

Unless survivor mains really all want any viable killer to be nerfed, then of course they will always go for the strongest killer no matter who it is. But I don't want to believe that.

I like how you quote everything before all the drawbacks I mentioned.

yea no bud, you just don't know the counterplay. Freddy is really good tbh, I would argue he is one of the top killers in the game, his traps just require you too drop pallets early, the fake pallets are easy too memorize, and his teleport takes a few seconds, so you have a head start.

Honestly, the only change I would do is make his Z block worth 6k bloodpoints, it's honestly a useless addon that I've never seen people use, nor have I ever used it. 6k bloodpoints for bleeding, not even mangeld status, is just bad.

Did you tried small game yet?

Freddy is fine. His pallets aren't a threat once you learn which pallets are fake and gen teleport has a pretty hefty cooldown as long as you are awake.

Can anyone even confirm that Freddy's ability to cancel out Borrowed Time is intended?

I know I pretty much went on a tangent explaining why hes top tier. But this bit here irks me

Small game is just not very useful to me. It can find stuff but there's little ways of telling the difference between totems and killer traps, and if the killer isn't Freddy (who's running pallet add-on), Trapper or Hag it's fairly redundant. (And since most Hags that I encounter play the same way and I'm a Trapper main and know most trap locations, there's little reason to run SG vs them for me, giving me even less incentive to do so.)

Besides, perks shouldn't be the method of countering something because you can't see who the killer is prior to a game.

For you.

Rank 1 both sides within the first few days of rank reset. You just hitting rank 1 now?

Yes, devs confirmed it's intended.

That same thing applies to killers. It's not about being viable, it's about being broken. You could make a point saying it's just refusing to learn to play against him. He doesn't need to be nerfed to the ground. Just some minor tweaks here and there. Someone argued that the best way to counter freddy is to stay awake. That is literally impossible in chases, which is okay, sure. But being hit throws you back into Dream World, making it hard to stay out of it anyway.

This, in particular isn't a big deal. But it's extremely tedious to have to run all the way across the ######### map for an alarm clock to have the 30 second grace period expire on your way back to the gen you were on lol. Here's what I think a suitable change without nerfing him too hard would be

> Either Change Oblivious or remove it from Freddy. He doesn't need it. Right now, it cancels out Borrowed Time, a perk meant as a defense against tunneling, which happens a lot. It also cancels out perks that require you to be near the killer, such as diversion (not even meta lol)

>Either Make all clocks usable, or add more clocks, and more choices for you. God they feel so useless when you have to leave your gen, go across the map to wake up and return to the gen to be a few seconds from being in the dream world again. Hellish in Solo and against Red Paint Brush.

Reading this, If you honestly think this removes Freddy's viability, then I honestly don't know how. As you said before, wins are not handed to you on a silver platter. It's okay to admit Freddy is a bit on the OP side if he launches from second worst killer ( sorry Bubba) to top 5 in the expanse of 2 patches back to back.

But can we at least see the two above as an agreeable change?

"Not that hours mean a darned thing"

Hours represent experience.

"but I'm at 2000+ hours."

I'm at 4000

"if you can't hit rank 1 very soon into rank reset I'm not surprised you're having difficulties."

Who said I wasn't hitting rank 1 very soon after reset? I hit rank 1 right right after every reset

"Some players, no matter how long they play can't hang with the best survivors"

Which would explain why you're confused. If you'd like some tips there are quite a few beginners guides on youtube available.

4000 hours and still having trouble understanding how this game should be balanced. Yikes.

Hours means literally nothing. If you don't have skill, you won't be good, regardless of how much you play. My friend has probably triple the time in overwatch that I do and he can never get past gold while I'm grandmaster. Doing the same thing poorly over and over again doesn't make you better than people with natural talent.

Again, check out what I recommended. You'll be amazed at what is possible with Killer if you know how to play! Or keep thinking that killers are super underpowered when players better than you tell you otherwise. Whatever works!

I'm trying to help you become a better player, that's why I linked a video.

"player who thinks you can only win with nurse."

That isn't something I ever said or what I think.

You are very stuck in your opinion and refuse to believe you could be wrong.

just... no

Yeah, but at that point you're in the game and can't change your perks anymore.