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The developers can not stop the "DC's"

I see people getting upset about DC's here all the time. The Dev's wouldn't do anything about it etc.

But what are they supposed to do? You can't force people to play against ######### they don't want to play against. If they can't DC anymore they'll kill themselves on the first hook. If they can't kill themselves on the first hook they will just go afk. What does a really good solution look like?

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  • Volfawott
    Volfawott Member Posts: 3,893
    edited October 2019

    I rather have someone killed themselves on first hook so I can at least get some points or I could at least get certain perk to be somewhat get tokens to them rather than them disconnecting because they got down first.

  • ColonGlock
    ColonGlock Member Posts: 1,224
    edited October 2019

    Disconnecting survivors are the real killers.

    I cannot count how many escapes I had while on death hook. Those are so satisfying, and only happened because I refused to give up.

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 8,998

    that is true though you cat't change what people don't find fun to play against

  • BloodyBunny
    BloodyBunny Member Posts: 114

    Killer main and id rather someone die on the first hook the dc because i donwed them or they were about to die its just frustrating and tends to screw the other survivors over when they dc plus when one person dcs anotger peson is alot more likely to dc

  • Horus
    Horus Member Posts: 850

    They can take away the leave match button and make it more of a hastle to start the game

  • burntFuse
    burntFuse Member Posts: 290

    Keep track of how often players DC or die super early in a match. 'Early' as in the entire match hasn't gone on long enough for somebody to run down the hook's full clock. If they cross a threshold, set them to rank 21 where they can't be matched with anybody but other 21's and can't rank up until the 13th.

  • aazimuth
    aazimuth Member Posts: 190

    People treating this like the people dc'ing because they aren't having fun will stop even if they will be punished for it have really low iq's when people can just die on first hook.

  • Regionlock
    Regionlock Member Posts: 316
    edited October 2019

    So you're asking the devs to force players to endure the unfun experiences at any cost because you're definitely gonna continue to fund their pockets by yourself, right? "Just endure that face camp, and sit in the match slugged till you bleed out"

    What we have currently isn't even a proper ranking system. There is absolutely zero incentive to stay in certain matches. People will leave even with your change proposal.

    League of Legends has a timer and people to this day leave games. Their matches last upward to 30-40min so leaving those matches is more impactful compared to how short DBD matches are. It's understandable for their game, but here I'm dbd it's a little silly.

    A better solution would be to figure out a way to incentivize people for staying in matches regardless of how enjoyable they are.

  • Elegant
    Elegant Member Posts: 443

    They can stop them. But, they would also curb their playerbase by a good amount of they add really harsh punishments for it.

  • HP150
    HP150 Member Posts: 455

    Even if a survivor kills themselves on hook or afks they are buying some time for other survivors by forcing the killer to transport and hook the survivor rather than immediately go look for another survivor. They also are not denying the killer BP and are giving him some time to look for the hatch in a 2v1 situation (death animation before hatch opens).

    And the devs have expressed interest in being able to punish DCers once dedicated servers are introduced so get used to the idea.

  • Horus
    Horus Member Posts: 850

    If your not gonna have fun know that then dont play the game in the first place and yes they can punish people for dcing its there game and they can do what they want and none cares about no league of legends

  • Xboned
    Xboned Member Posts: 461

    I don't think it's something that can be fixed with punishment. I think there should be punishment for it, but I think there should be rewards for not doing it.

    I personally would put in a BP reward for completing a game. I think one of the reasons survivors are prone to DCing is that they lose a lot of points if they don't escape, so if it looks like you're going to die or have a bad match... might as well move onto the next one.

  • Regionlock
    Regionlock Member Posts: 316

    Of course they can do w/e they want, but that doesn't make it a good idea.

    If you're gonna pushing a guy for DC a match because he's done waiting on a killer to finally find the 4th person in the match, after waiting almost full bleed out, idk what to tell you. Or being tunneled into insidious camp, and forced subject your team to fall for the dumbest play in the world. The only reason this is being advocated for is because killers want survivors to endure Moris, Bead spirits or w/e they have going because there fun has been removed when people leave. There's an extremely small percentage of people who find those things fun, so you're just telling the majority of the playerbase to stop playing. Lol

    Also, I mentioned league of legends because that's the kind of punishment system you guys want. It was used as a reference, bud.

  • FancyMrB
    FancyMrB Member Posts: 1,250

    There should be stronger punishment for DC, but @Xboned has a good point. Staying in a match should be reward as well :) Either with BP or maybe extra shards? Maybe players who don't DC get a big bonus of BP when rank reset happens?

  • Cardgrey
    Cardgrey Member Posts: 1,454

    O.o let’s be real...


  • Horus
    Horus Member Posts: 850

    Things like bleeding out are apart of the game if you cant handle being slugged then this isnt the game for you and things like prayer beads and and moris do need a nerf but then things like ds ,insta heals and toolboxes will have to be nerfed in exchanged

  • BunnyTheHutt
    BunnyTheHutt Member Posts: 1,773

    Yep, but this could also backfire if someone has bad internet and crashes a lot. I've lost my fair share of addons and offerings because the game stopped loading and crashed.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,685

    While there might be face camping and such, theres also teams of ppl who DC within seconds of the game even starting. You can't blame facecamping when someone hits the "leave match" button before I even have control of my character

  • Regionlock
    Regionlock Member Posts: 316

    I can handle it buddy, but you got me confused if you think I'm gonna full bleed out because some potato can't find the 4th person after a certain amount of time. I'll take a queue penalty and play something else 10/10 times if people are gonna waste my time.

    Think what ever you want about me or people that don't sit there and have their time wasted. I will continue to play the game and eat those queue times. Cry all you want.

  • Kilmeran
    Kilmeran Member Posts: 3,142
    edited October 2019

    They can deter DCs, but what they can't stop is being dying on first hook. And while I've seen Killers state they prefer that since they still get points, it's the Survivor teams that are going to continue to suffer.

    When someone doesn't find a match fun, they will find a way to leave it. DC's are not required to screw the experience for three other Survivor players.

    And if enough Survivors in a match do it for whatever reason (SWF maybe) it also screws the Killer out of BP and maybe even Pips. Remember, the system does not reward fast sacrifices anymore.

  • Regionlock
    Regionlock Member Posts: 316

    I agree that there are scenarios where people leave for silly reasons and it sucks, but we can't pretend like there aren't understandable reasons sometimes.

    Matches in this game are short just move on. Reward the killer with DC players hooks and don't punish them for the DC on their emblems. This is the real reason why anyone cares about the DC anyways. They are sad that they might lose a ranking that means absolutely nothing. Keeping Rank 1 in this game means nothing.

  • Regionlock
    Regionlock Member Posts: 316

    Lol. You can guarantee it? Ok, buddy. How do you plan on doing that because I know I don't. If I was this kind of player I would run spine chill, urban evasion , etc, but I hate stealth perks in general. You can look at my comment history and find that out for yourself buddy.

  • BluEmotion
    BluEmotion Member Posts: 5

    I’m pretty sure people are talking about DC’s that aren’t because of the player themself. I was playing with my friend earlier and he DC’d nearly every match. It wasn’t because of him pressing DC, and he actually got so sick of it that he quit. It’s something with the servers.

  • savevatznick
    savevatznick Member Posts: 651

    Make a DC give as many points as 3-hook sacrifice.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,685

    I dunno bout that. Early DCes just ruin the entire rest of the game, if there is one left to ruin. Waiting to get into a game, just to have it ruined because I made the grave mistake of downing someone too fast... That person DCes as soon as they get downed, and often times is followed by more. Points are nice and all, but I log on to play as I'm sure the other survivors did as well. It ends up just becoming a huge waste of time, offerings and addons.

    Personally, I cant wait til the timeout system is implemented. Too often, ppl DC when things go south because they can hop into another match right after that might be a "better match" where they wont be the one getting found first. As been said though by other on here... Ppl will still just suicide. I remember during last years hallowed blight event, survivors farming as much as they could for their vials, then finding me to suicide right after so they can move on to the next farming match...

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,685

    You can tell the difference between the 2. Theres a sound effect that plays when someone DCes by hitting the button.

  • BluEmotion
    BluEmotion Member Posts: 5

    @LordGlint I had no idea. Thanks.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,685

    NP mate, alot of ppl dont notice it doesnt play for actual DCes because THAT person kinda just stealth DCes and you dont notice anyone left for a minute.

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 9,245

    I rather have them kill themselves on first hook then DC.

  • Horus
    Horus Member Posts: 850

    Only crying im hearing is you cause you can't handle bleeding on the floor kid

  • Regionlock
    Regionlock Member Posts: 316

    That will still hurt you in the emblem department. If they can figure out a way to not punish people because they had a dc in their match is a better option, in my opinion.

    The queue times ban will work for a few people, but not all, and both sides will still be affected by it.

    I've also wanted the hook second stage to be automatic, and that will prevent dying on first hook. I'm personally tired of spamming one key repeatedly.

  • Regionlock
    Regionlock Member Posts: 316

    Muh, sure kid. I'm the one in the forums crying about a queue time ban for people in a video game. I can't handle it.

  • BlueFang
    BlueFang Member Posts: 1,379

    You can't stop it now it's self sustaining!

  • cetruzzo
    cetruzzo Member Posts: 323

    Just ban them, problem solved.

  • arslaN
    arslaN Member Posts: 1,936

    The only good thing about punishing dc's will be giving killers their bbq stack and stopping survivors from dcing to give hatch. That's it. You can't force people to play a match, they can just kill themselves on hook or go afk.

    Devs need to fix why people dc in the first place. Sure, you can't stop salty survivors from dcing when they go down in 10 seconds, but you can reduce dc's by fixing the annoying and unfair things on both sifes.

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,813

    People don't DC using the leave button the vast majority of the time. That would do nothing to stop most DCs and punish people who genuinely do need to leave and want to do it the right way.

  • Tucking_Friggered
    Tucking_Friggered Member Posts: 636
    edited October 2019

    But will you play if you have been hardware banned? No, no you will not. And that's what the game needs to do to poor sports.

  • Plu
    Plu Member Posts: 1,456

    We don't want them to stop them, because it's impossible, we just want serial dc'ers to be punished for it because they ruin alot of games.

  • Regionlock
    Regionlock Member Posts: 316

    Keep dreaming. Those don't even work as a deterrent to keep hackers out. You really think the devs are going to start hardware banning for DC's?

    Let me know how that goes,bud. After that we might need a tracking system for afks, and one for one hooks. We need to hardware ban them all. Lol

    I'm curious how many dissconects in your eyes is worthy of a hardware ban? Let us all know.

  • EnviouSLAY
    EnviouSLAY Member Posts: 300

    The real question to ask is what makes people want to DC; if the devs can ask that and poll the information together for what causes survivors/killers to DC purposefully they could implement some changes to make the overall player base more happy. People will still DC, that will never not happen; but if you can make the overall player base happy and content with the game, the DCs will stop happening as frequent. This really is a case of "lets stop and ask why, and come to a conclusion/problem solve how to make this better without thinning out players". :)) Just my opinion though.

  • Regionlock
    Regionlock Member Posts: 316

    Ochido was an exploiter who sends his wave of trolls to be toxic witch hunters to get people falsely banned and still is playing the game. Thanks for proving my point more.

  • Tucking_Friggered
    Tucking_Friggered Member Posts: 636
    edited October 2019

    Indeed they will. They hardware banned Ochido for less. He was banned for body blocking. Literally. Some annoying troll move. DCs are community wide disruptions that are quickly becoming an every game occurrence.

    You don't have a real point. You do have a lot of rhetoric to assure the devs they shouldn't ban people who DC and we can assume it's because it will affect you profoundly.

    If it won't well then one has to ask why doest thou protest so much?

  • Endstille
    Endstille Member Posts: 2,246

    I will make this Pretty simple.


    In any other game when you disconnect from ranked Matches you get a cd which increases the more you do it. In dota you get send into your own Special private hell to Play with dc People just like you and you have to win x Matches to Play again with normal People.

    They dont want to Play against x? Well they have to, you dc, you get cd. You ######### on hook? This equals to griefing, you get cd. You go afk? Well same you get cd. Either Play or dont but stop ruining the games of other People.

  • Regionlock
    Regionlock Member Posts: 316

    Sure bud, w/e you say. He was hardware banned and still posting DBD videos on YouTube? I don't even know this guy, but goes to show you that it won't stop those kind of people. Keep dreaming.

    They can implement the queue timer and People will still leave matches or one hook, it's really that simple. You can assume it's gonna affect me if that helps you sleep at night, but in reality it will affect queue times.

    I'm only here to give you the reality of the situation. Those people spend money on the game as well. Hardware banning people for something that's been happening since the inception of this game now is questionable. I've made multiple killers DC, and survivors DC, and shrugged it off and laughed. I suggest you try and stop taking the game so serious. Rank 1 in this game doesn't earn you anything, nor is it going to get you into an E-sport team. The day the devs start hosting tournaments with decent prize pools and have a ranking system that makes sense, we can talk.

    As it stand the game is far from e-sport ready with the amount of items on both sides that need to be removed. Those said items are a majority of the reason killers and survivors DC. They should start by fixing those than maybe adding a queue timer.

  • Mochan
    Mochan Member Posts: 2,886

    You can punish DCs, but that won't fix the fundamental flaws in the game's design.

    People DC for a reason: frustration.

    The game has an unusually high level of frustration for a lot of people on both sides. To fix DCs, these design flaws need to be addressed, rather than just using a bandaid fix which is "ban the DCers."

    You will soon run out of people playing this game if that is your only solution.

  • Tucking_Friggered
    Tucking_Friggered Member Posts: 636
    edited October 2019

    No, you won't run out of people to play the game and even if you would it would be better than giving the entitled brats a single inch.

    Ban them all. First temporarily. Then permanently. Then by hardware.

    If they wish to continue buying new motherboards to have the process repeat, we'll deal with it.