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Auron471
Auron471 Member Posts: 1,310

Its kinda funny seeing how angry people get over these kinda of things, but also kind sad/frustrating because i can see where they are coming from.

Nurse Basekit: Got Legioned

Insta Heals: Got Legioned

Ebony Mori: *Overpowered Laughing*


Killer mains seems to just be eating each other ever since this PTB came out. I've already seen several comments saying "nurse basekit is fine we should be focused on nerfing spirit"


For the nurse nerfs, she seems kinda useless without addons. Her changes make her even harder to use when you are new. And it will at best bring the mlg nurse players down a peg or two. But they didnt even bother making nurse easier to pick up for a new player. The pro nurses will adapt and become godly within a few weeks, but the new nurse players will be launched so far down the tier list that they can see legion's butt. They need to make nurse easier to pick up and revert some of the changes to her basekit at the very least.


Instas: Honestly I was pretty bummed to find out that the instaheals got legion level nerfed. But i understand why they nerfed them. It was pretty toxic/annoying to see a dying survivor back up to healthy instantly. The new Syringe is fine, but i just wished it would heal fully after another 8s. Septic Agent is basicly just borrowed time and is only really going to be used as a selfish add-on. It shouldnt deplete the medkit imo.


Hopefully BHVR will do something to quell some of the forum explosions, but knowing them...

They will either do nothing for months to years, or panic and go to far in the other direction similar to what happened to MoM.


But we should all calm down a bit and not make too many emotional posts freaking out. Lets all try to be calm and give the PTB some more time. Try out the new nurse add-ons and maybe stop trying to play her like the old nurse.

Comments

  • Auron471
    Auron471 Member Posts: 1,310

    Thats true i suppose. They did make the training wheel add-ons common which would help the new players.

  • UlvenDagoth
    UlvenDagoth Member Posts: 3,535

    ALSO! Even a Dev on here said that Insta Heals were too much and too easy to abuse and ruined the experience for Killers.


    Please remember that Devs are on THE GAME'S SIDE. Not Killer or Survivor.

    I can give proof.

  • Grimbergoth
    Grimbergoth Member Posts: 293

    Most of the nurse complaints I see is about the basekit , the fact that she has to charge blinking , kinda like spirit does her power or others with a 3 sec per blink rate . The only issue I really see currently is that yes in a chase the blink was almost impossible to outrun , not to outsmart but to outrun . But what they need to do is up her basekit speed so that her travel especially on large maps isn't dependant on her blinks . She moves like a potatoe as it is before the blink change so her blink is also part of her map control . taking that away also takes away her ability to patrol like most killers and does make her heavily addon dependant unlike most killers .


    Its kind of a seasaw issue , nerfing blink while understandable has also turned her into a potato on large maps . Look at it like this , if you made myers stalk be only in 5 meters he would be a potato , a slow moving killer needs the ability to make up for the lack of chase speed . So if you change the ability then you might want to look at the base speed .

  • Kabu
    Kabu Member Posts: 926

    This patch is no where near how bad Legion was gutted.

    • The Legion now moves at default Killer speed (4.6 m/s or 115 %).
    • The Frenzy movement speed was reduced to 5.0 m/s (was 5.28 m/s).
    • Terror radius increased to 32 metres (was 24 metres) .
    • The Legion can no longer see Blood while in Frenzy.
    • Missing an attack in Frenzy cancels the power immediately.
    • Frenzy power gauge amount lost when landing an attack outside of Frenzy: 50 % (was 100 %).
    • Increased the duration of Frenzy to 10 seconds (was 6 seconds).
    • Increased the recharge time of Frenzy to 20 seconds (was 15 seconds).
    • Increased the default fatigue duration when Frenzy ends to 4 seconds (was 3 seconds).
    • Frenzy can only be used when the meter is fully charged.
    • The Bleed-out timer is no longer reduced by Feral Frenzy hits (was 10 seconds per hit)

    As well as all of the changes to add ons.....(example: pin add ons)


    If you think Nurse was treated as badly you are sorely mistaken. The only positive (in regard to buff vs nerf) change Legion recieved was increased base movement speed. Please don't compare this patch to Legion's mega nerf.

  • UlvenDagoth
    UlvenDagoth Member Posts: 3,535
  • Kerbert
    Kerbert Member Posts: 415

    I think everyone is being melodramatic about the changes to both Nurse and the Medkits.

  • Gravnos
    Gravnos Member Posts: 105

    What happened with Moris? Didn't see it on the patch notes. As a killer I hope it's now only when they're on death hook.

  • themirrortwin
    themirrortwin Member Posts: 280

    Why is "legion level nerfed" a term? I felt the changes to legion were very fair. I mean the following the blood while looking down trick was insane as was Frank's mix tape insanity. Is that what you mean by legion level nerfs? A nerf that made the game better by removing crazy things from it?

  • themirrortwin
    themirrortwin Member Posts: 280

    Moris have not changed. People just talk a lot about them as "comparisons"

  • UlvenDagoth
    UlvenDagoth Member Posts: 3,535

    Hi! Legion main here! Yes the exploits were bad but have you see all of it? Please look at all of it before being made at a group of code in the shape of a Teenager with a knife!

  • DWolfAlpha
    DWolfAlpha Member Posts: 931

    Yeah, ebony mori needs to be changed. Maybe just 2 uses instead of unlimited. Also, they should give a bp boost to survivors if not everyone, as it can give a killer an unexpected edge.

  • ItsYourBoyGuzma
    ItsYourBoyGuzma Member Posts: 797

    Nurse is still the same, the only thing they chnaged is they punish you slighty more if you go past 2 blinks.

  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,814

    People just overreact way too much way too easily. If Nurse really got destroyed, which I highly doubt, at least try her enough days on the ptb before going crazy.

    Though to be fair, you shouldN#t ever go nuts about things like this.

    All BHVR is trying is to bring stuff that are too powerful in line with the balanced stuff, that's how you should balance the game. Sure, whether Nurse's base kit was op or not is something people have different opinions on. But to them Nurse was indeed a bit too powerful. I personally agree.