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RIP red rank diversity

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  • gantes
    gantes Member Posts: 1,611

    I highly doubt they'll nerf Billy's basekit because guess what, unline Nurse, he doesn't need changes in his base kit.

    Stop with that fearmongering mentality "but muh they'll nerf everything11!!!1!!!!" No they won't. That's not how balance works. You establish a range where you want the killers to be and target the outliers. Nurse is a CLEAR outlier. Billy is not.

    There are quite a few killers in this game that are strong without needing nerfs and they're plenty viable in red ranks. Stop whining. If the Nurse changes bother you that much, just leave, you won't be missed.

  • gantes
    gantes Member Posts: 1,611

    I absofuckinglutely guarantee y'all that if Nurse and Spirit are tweaked we'll have like 7 killers being popular in red ranks. When you get down from their pedestal, the other high tiers are pretty balanced and still viable.

  • DaGreenBolt
    DaGreenBolt Member Posts: 453

    Hmm let me remind you that survivors DC against any thing they don't like, they did this with legion, and nurse, and BHVR nerfed the crap outta them.

    The DC epidemic is still going on, what's to stop survivors from dcing against Billy after spirit is nerfed. Cause I saw a lot of "nerf Billy posts" during the summer.

    Killer mains shouldn't accept this cause survivors will use this against anything they don't like (again they did this to legion and nurse, and now they are doing the same to spirit).

    Dedicated servers looks like they ain't coming anytime soon with the bugs and lag it brings.

  • gantes
    gantes Member Posts: 1,611
    edited October 2019

    I'll tell you why. No one DCs vs Billy.

    Survivors aren't in any kind of high level conspiracy to ruin your game experience bud. They DC vs Spirit because she's garbage to go against. Same for some survivors with the Nurse. But I've seen survivors DC vs the Doctor more than against Billy. When people DC against Billy it's because of instasaw, which will probably go with the add-on rework.

    You can't force people to play stuff they don't want to play. If they don't want to go against Spirit they won't, and it's up for the devs to solve that.

    Every single other high tier killer than Nurse or Spirit offers a more fun gameplay experience for survivors, while still being viable at red ranks. Those killers will not be nerfed.

    EDIT: just like, as killer, I absolutely refuse to play Haddonfun if I'm not Nurse or Hag. Same for the Game and Yamaoka sometimes. Until the devs improve those maps I'll most likely not play when I get them.

  • DaGreenBolt
    DaGreenBolt Member Posts: 453

    We will see, but from what I'm seeing since the Legion and now Nurse nerf, it looks like if you DC enough, you can get anything you want nerfed.

  • gantes
    gantes Member Posts: 1,611

    The Nurse nerfs are most definitely not due to DC. If that's the criteria the devs were looking into, Spirit would be getting nerfed now, not Nurse. People DC A LOT MORE vs Spirit.

    And Legion deserved those changes.

  • DaGreenBolt
    DaGreenBolt Member Posts: 453
    edited October 2019

    Lol legion didn't deserved all those changes, they could have just made it so that they change or rework one of the two knife add ons, and made it that legion couldn't deplete the mending bar anymore. That would have fixed 2 bugs at once and to compensate they could have given legion a 112%, 112.5% or 113% movement speed.

    But no they had to nerf a killer to the ground from two exploits when it was solvable with a few tweaks and turned a killer to become the old Freddy.

    Also if we look through all the years nurse was released, the nurse had way more DCs than DCs against spirit when she came out.

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  • pronursemain
    pronursemain Member Posts: 23

    nurse cant beat swf without addons now dbd are used to messing things up

  • godren
    godren Member Posts: 120
    edited October 2019

    swf is still overtuned. so if use an overtuned killer against the same thing it is not a crime. lol you just told me the same thing. keep telling me the same won't help, but anyway when survivors use overtuned things against common killers to make things easier it's ok, but when killers do the same by using the nurse it's not ok. hypocrisy at it's finest.

  • hiC
    hiC Member Posts: 217

    Another post about red ranks by someone who has no idea what they’re talking about.

  • premiumRICE
    premiumRICE Member Posts: 798

    Which diversity? I don’t remember any playing only vs nurse and occasionally billy

  • Regionlock
    Regionlock Member Posts: 316

    Except I'm not being a hypocrite smart one. Using a SWF 4 man on comms is being a huge scumbag as well. I don't want to see any of it in the game. This is why when I play with one friend I'm not step by step calling out the killer like a navy seal team or something.

    If they intended for the game to be balanced around a swf 4 man sweat team running meta perks on comms than they might as well not let us queue solo, or give us all aura reading perks, and in-game comms. They could also give a 4 man a geneteratoor repair rebuff or something. Nurse was not ok and 4 man swf running all perks that synergize well to give a killer a terrible in-game experience is not ok as well. Both are absolute scumbag moves.

  • mcNuggets
    mcNuggets Member Posts: 767

    SURVIVOR MAIN POST, REGARDING NURSE BEING BALANCED, WHILE NOT PLAYED HER.

  • SteelDragon
    SteelDragon Member Posts: 745

    im actually a killer main, nurse BASEKIT was balanced

  • Sluzzy
    Sluzzy Member Posts: 3,130

    Neither is scumbag, actually. It's just called playing the game. But nerfing nurse to the point that she can't compete against a sweaty team is atrocious. She lost map pressure with this undeserved nerf so its ezpz to genrush her now.

  • Regionlock
    Regionlock Member Posts: 316

    I don't mind people playing the game together, but as soon as you hop into qeueu and start calling out the killers every move like a seal team, you aren't being fair either. The game isn't designed around it, and you get a clear advantage over the killer. By people going 4swf seal team 6, the community has created a rabbit hole discussion about balance, and both sides suffer. The killer suffers, and solo queue survivors suffer because they are busy trying to balance around one possible aspect of the game because killers ruin into it sometimes.

    Also, that is your opinion about the gen rush. I and a few others including a ton of streamer that are killer mains for the most part agree. When in the right hands she will still be dominant. She still has the ability to negate every loop, structure, pallet, etc to end chases quicker than other killers. It's just less average/ below average player friendly now.

  • Sluzzy
    Sluzzy Member Posts: 3,130

    I agree. Solo has suffered a lot. If a killer is really good they can usually capitalize on solos not communicating, but this is probably because they are conditioned to play against SWF and then when it is solo they steamroll. And survivors have been nerfed a lot lately. But its not too bad though. I admit that a good nurse was a bit OP against randoms but as soon as it is a really a good SWF you realize it was fair at that point - at least for me. In fact when I played killer I usually played one of the other killers but when I noticed it was SWF or they had toolboxes I played nurse so it was a fair game. What should I do now? My only option is to dodge or play spirit with some OP addons. That's not good for the game at all. I can't be the only one that feels this way.

    I disagree with what you said last. She's just more annoying to play as. Why? Because you are handicapped. And I doubt new players will play nurse now, too much of a learning curve with too little reward. Other killers are easier to learn and give similar results now.

  • godren
    godren Member Posts: 120

    that won't happen cause swf brings a lot of money. i just tried to say that using scummy things against the same is legit. as for the nerf, they should've deleted only 3-5 blings and omegablink addons thats all. now it's a death sentence to play as her on demo's map, lery's map and haddonfield. you can cover 23-27 meter distance while she has cd for the second blink.

  • godren
    godren Member Posts: 120

    the spirit will get the same thing. they are planning on nerfing billy as i remember.