Should Noed be removed considering killers have one shot insta downs?
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oh yeah, and there are 4 of them.
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I’m a survivor main, I can cleanse the totems just fine.
You can’t expect everyone to agree with you, making a poll completely leaning towards one answer is an incomplete poll.
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Hahaha... I didn't realize you used FB as a credible source. Most killers I know are very chill, and are only toxic if survivors are first.... and I didn't even MENTION toxicity once in my response. I spoke from a mechanical perspective.
If a killer is only camping their totems (which only a few killers can reliably protect totems, such as Trapper, Demo, Hag, Billy, and maybe Legion... only maybe with Legion), then just do gens or get out. They're not doing their job of stopping you from leaving.
If they nerf Adrenaline, then I'll consider a NOED nerf.
However... Noed is a Hex, which means it can be deactivated before it's in effect, Small Game is a weakness in particular. And this makes it unreliable, and therefore, rare.
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I’m gonna add another “No” here. Just to clear something up, I’m a survivor main. Currently Rank 3 Survivor and Rank 6 Killer (<- Queue times are trash on PS4 at Rank 3 Survivor).
NOED rewards Killers who aren’t confident about their ability and can also act as a really good late game option paired with the likes of Blood Warden. It should absolutely not be changed because if dealt with correctly, it won’t activate. Ever. If you seriously doubt your teams ability to destroy up to 5 dull totems (less if more hexes are in play), then run small game, Detective’s hunch or a map as others have said.
It’s annoying when you put the work in for four totems and the fifth happens to be NOED, sure, but that’s not your fault, nor the killer’s. Your team have not done you any favours. Yeah, it’ll suck if you have to leave someone behind or get left behind yourself, but if the totems were destroyed you wouldn’t be in that situation in the first place.
Also it’s not as if survivors have more than plenty second chances too. Guess what, they mostly have work arounds too. You don’t see killers moan about X perk being OP nearly as often ever since the reworks of DS and MoM, both of which were very necessary. NOED used to be much worse for survivors, back before hexes even came into play. It used to be a flat 2 minute time period of instadowns similar to how Hope works. It also got nerfed as a hex either once or twice. It now has a counterplay, which some people willingly ignore because... reasons.
In short, if you come to expect NOED in every game, you get into the mindset of removing all dulls as a priority. This will obviously mean less deaths to NOED while gens take a little longer than normal. Only one survivor needs to look for totems, though Inner Strength is a good incentive to remove all the totems too so you get a health state on demand while lessening the chances of NOED causing problems later.
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Just do the bones my guy.
If NOED's instadown had to be removed, I'd like it to have a bigger speed boost and a super quick attack cooldown. Machine-gunning people seems more fun than one-shotting them, even if it isn't quite as strong. Apparently I'm the only person who thinks that though :P
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agreed with the no. Just cleanse bones.
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That means that your poll is inherently biased and will not yield accurate results making it seem like more people want NOED removed rather than an actually neutral poll which would state a simple "yes" "no" "rework" option. By making a post that is asking people if they want NOED removed, you should have an option that says "no" because that gives you a more accurate look on what people think as otherwise, what's the point in asking people a question if you're just going to not even ask it and instead present 3 biased options.
Now mind you, I don't like NOED and would love to see it be reworked in the future to help improve the overall fun of the game but let's start off with a basic yes or no question first. They've even been adding more things to the game to provide incentive to do totems anyways such as the higher BP gains and the new perk "Inner Strength".
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"It used to be a flat 2 minute time period of instadowns similar to how Hope works."
Even before that, very early in the game NOED was just infinite.
No way to prevent it, no way to wait it out.
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What's the point of a question/poll if you only accept one type of answer?
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No one is voting lol.
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Wow, it's almost like Killers are supposed to be the power role or something ! Gosh, who'd of thought that as the power role, that Killers aren't up to snuff and need to be looked at a bit ? Survivors only have a dozen or so second chance perks, strong loops, gen rushing, flashlights, hatch escapes, speed boosting perks, medkits, self healing, keys, SWF, and several "f-you" perks to make sure the killer barely stands a chance of winning.
But no, Killers are too strong despite the entire point of their existence is to be THE POWER ROLE. Killers should be stronger than survivors. Not punching bags for survivors to merely abuse with all the nonsense and looping they're allowed to have for some god forsaken reason...
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Nah
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No to removal of NoeD I I personally dont use it and I think it runs the game.
Also Survivors have the upper hand in DBD. In the sense that Survivors are weaker by not having a power yes, but reality is Survivors have the active role and this allows them to immediately have control until a killer can get the active role.
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no. The counterplay is getting the totems you lazy apes. Adapt. If it is such a huge problem then just DO TOTEMS. I cant believe people are still complaining about stupid shid
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You wanna know why survivors are always getting nerfs?
GO WATCH HOW THE GAME PLAYED AT RELEASE.
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Make that 18.
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Sorry, but no. I pick no because survivors can do totems. It's just unlucky if they don't.
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Did you just say the DS rework was unnecessary? DS absolutely needed changes. I still think it's a tad strong right now...
... but I agree with everything else.
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Why are you even here just to mock and be rude move along good sir.
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The game is nowhere near how it was at release.
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There should be a no option. For me, no, NOED should not be removed.
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so what you're saying is that people who oppose your viewpoint should be silenced....Mmmmmkay
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well your main objective is escaping so guess what buddy, it has an impact on your main objective
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I'd be fine if they reverted back to old noed, otherwise no.
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This. This Poll is incredibly biased since there is no "no" option. the answer is no. Simply put Noed is an easy too counter perk which makes the killer play with 3 perks for an entire game until the end, and it's still not guaranteed if you counter it properly by cleansing all totems.
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that way he can only get positive feedback ;)
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Sadly survivors were trained to believe they should win every game. As the power role, THE KILLER should get 2-4 kills most matches. If only the game didnt release the way it did.
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NOPE.
Look at it in a Horror Movie Perspective...
Like Michael Myers for example.. He can One shot you, ooorrrrrr insta-kill you (Aka Mori)
NOED is pretty much base kit in Horror Movies so it should at least be a perk in a horror game.
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Alrighty looks like the "No" votes have changed so I'll take into account the new votes.
No 71% About 38 or more votes
@NuclearBurrito @Masantonio @ (any one else I missed) I got you fam.
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The Hell? Where is the "no" option?
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Also, this is the worst excuse to do it. Because NOED was nerfed by this patch in 2 ways:
1 - The purple instant heal now grands Endurance, which can tank an instant down such as NOED. Thus making that matchup more favorable than before.
2 - Detectives Hunch was buffed to work on all gens and last longer, thus meaning that someone running the perk will be more effective at finding totems and thus countering NOED.
Removal of the red instant heal isn't particularly relevant for NOED users in particular due to it already bypassing the extra health state anyways.
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nO.
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Nope
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Funny when the devs said killers should not be getting 4ks every match they said the average should be about 2k
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Btw, everytime i read the title and the first paragraph of this discussion, it sounds like you're saying all Killers have such an ability instead of needing to equip stuff to get it.
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Funny because the devs suck at balancing the game.
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No, I didn’t say it’s unnecessary, if I did, that’s an autocorrect that I mustn't have spotted, because the DS rework was very necessary. I’ll edit it if it was wrong. Using mobile and predictive text is not fun, specifically when using this site.
Edit: Comment was correct initially, you might have just misread or misinterpreted what I said. Don’t blame you tbh, it is a wall of text after all :)
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No
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Ah, it was a typo... then I won't be so harsh. : P
I was looking for someone to debate... since that's what I do. Sorry mate. XD
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nope
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No.... noed is fine as is... when you see a totem simply cleanse it.
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