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Best Reallife Killer suggestion

i think it would be increasing the horror atmosphere of DbD a lot. my suggestion is to put Valery Makarenkov into the game. even meeting him inside DbD i would ######### my whole pants. we already know that the clown should show the real life killer John Wayne Gacy. so what do you think?

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  • Badmanone
    Badmanone Member Posts: 64

    @Delfador said:
    No, it literally praises them in a way and since both of them are rapists, the devs can not take the chance to include them. It might cause a massive backlash.

    Killing people in games is fun, killing people in real life is a horrific thing to do. Including these people to the games and trying to earn money from them and dead people is disgusting.

    I personally wouldn't want that to happen.

    why you say devs inculde them? john wayne gacy is already included as clown. they already stated they was inspired by him. however with makarenkov iam not sure. i dont mean they should name him so but maybe get inspired by him. and i agree to you, its a horrific thing to kill or ######### persons in real life but thats just a game. i mean just because youre looking friday the 13th you doesnt kill everyone?

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    @Badmanone said:

    @Delfador said:
    No, it literally praises them in a way and since both of them are rapists, the devs can not take the chance to include them. It might cause a massive backlash.

    Killing people in games is fun, killing people in real life is a horrific thing to do. Including these people to the games and trying to earn money from them and dead people is disgusting.

    I personally wouldn't want that to happen.

    why you say devs inculde them? john wayne gacy is already included as clown. they already stated they was inspired by him. however with makarenkov iam not sure. i dont mean they should name him so but maybe get inspired by him. and i agree to you, its a horrific thing to kill or ######### persons in real life but thats just a game. i mean just because youre looking friday the 13th you doesnt kill everyone?

    No, the devs clearly stated in one of their streams that they didn't get inspired by him at all. The clown as a killer is a widely known cultural figure in western countries and they used it. If this game was created by africans, indians or asians, we might not have seen a clown killer at all.

    What you are talking and what I am saying is completely different. Of course I wouldn't go and kill people because I watched or played Jason. I wouldn't kill people if I played Grace neither. This isn't the issue. The issue here is that one of them is a fictional character and although what he has done was horrific, it wasn't real. The other one inflicted pain in the real life and should not be rewarded by getting included to a game.

    I have no problem with inspiration. After all, leatherface has been created by inspiration as well. Directly including them is the real problem here.

  • azazer
    azazer Member Posts: 446
    I don't really see the problem as long as you aren't putting real life killers in as is. Leather face was based off a real killer, yet there is no outcry for his inclusion in the game. So long as you just call it something else and take a little creative license killers based off real world people isn't some unspeakable taboo.
  • Badmanone
    Badmanone Member Posts: 64

    @azazer said:
    I don't really see the problem as long as you aren't putting real life killers in as is. Leather face was based off a real killer, yet there is no outcry for his inclusion in the game. So long as you just call it something else and take a little creative license killers based off real world people isn't some unspeakable taboo.

    yes i agree to you. its seems like people arguement with differernt measures and its more about their personal view on the world and not by logic. i mean its not something that was never done already or is forbidden? and i think makarenkov shouldnt be included like he is, thats true but inspired by him is really fine. otherwise this could be also a problem with "law". devs stated in stream that they was inspired by him for clown. if you search for it on google you find also another proofs.

  • TheBean
    TheBean Member Posts: 2,320

    @Delfador said:
    No, it literally praises them in a way and since both of them are rapists, the devs can not take the chance to include them. It might cause a massive backlash.

    Killing people in games is fun, killing people in real life is a horrific thing to do. Including these people to the games and trying to earn money from them and dead people is disgusting.

    I personally wouldn't want that to happen.

    I agree with this statement... We don't need to glorify actual real killers. It is a shame there have been movies already doing this. The Devs in this game don't need to be doing that, even though indirectly they already have.

  • Badmanone
    Badmanone Member Posts: 64

    @TheBean said:

    @Delfador said:
    No, it literally praises them in a way and since both of them are rapists, the devs can not take the chance to include them. It might cause a massive backlash.

    Killing people in games is fun, killing people in real life is a horrific thing to do. Including these people to the games and trying to earn money from them and dead people is disgusting.

    I personally wouldn't want that to happen.

    I agree with this statement... We don't need to glorify actual real killers. It is a shame there have been movies already doing this. The Devs in this game don't need to be doing that, even though indirectly they already have.

    bro with all respect but youre playing a game where a killer inspired by a real life killer (LF, Clown) gonna smash your head until he cracks, cut off your finger and eat it. the other one put a chainsaw in you and cut you in two pieces. maybe youre playing the wrong game?

  • TheBean
    TheBean Member Posts: 2,320

    @Badmanone said:

    bro with all respect but youre playing a game where a killer inspired by a real life killer (LF, Clown) gonna smash your head until he cracks, cut off your finger and eat it. the other one put a chainsaw in you and cut you in two pieces. maybe youre playing the wrong game?

    Killers that are INSPIRED by real life killers. Not actually putting in a real life killer. There is a big difference. We don't need to put their names in the history of this game simply because they decided they wanted to be serial killers, #########, murders, etc.

    Should read what the actual post is about. The OP was asking about putting in REAL LIFE killers.

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    @Badmanone said:

    @TheBean said:

    @Delfador said:
    No, it literally praises them in a way and since both of them are rapists, the devs can not take the chance to include them. It might cause a massive backlash.

    Killing people in games is fun, killing people in real life is a horrific thing to do. Including these people to the games and trying to earn money from them and dead people is disgusting.

    I personally wouldn't want that to happen.

    I agree with this statement... We don't need to glorify actual real killers. It is a shame there have been movies already doing this. The Devs in this game don't need to be doing that, even though indirectly they already have.

    bro with all respect but youre playing a game where a killer inspired by a real life killer (LF, Clown) gonna smash your head until he cracks, cut off your finger and eat it. the other one put a chainsaw in you and cut you in two pieces. maybe youre playing the wrong game?

    Getting inspired as I have said is okay. You can get inspired and if you read my second post I have already talked about leatherface and give him as an example. If you read my second post again, I have said that clown was not even inspired by Grace at least according to Devs.

    Getting smashed, my finger being eaten etc. is not the problem here. ######### is an important issue and it will cause a massive backlash whatever you say. It is a cultural thing but believe me if the devs were comfortable with the idea, they would include a ######### into the game long time ago.

    It is not a taboo or something. These people are not historical people, they are not important people, what they have done was disgusting but not 'world changing'. They don't deserve to be remembered and getting rewarded by getting included into a game.

  • lasombra1979
    lasombra1979 Member Posts: 1,142

    The devs are on record saying Gacy was not the inspiration for the Clown. As for Leatherface, whether or not Ed Gein was actually the inspiration for Leatherface is debateable and Tobe Hooper has contradicted himself multiple times about this. I will say that Leatherface was more than likely at least partly inspired by Gein.

    If they draw inspiration from reality to create fiction, that is one thing. Reality is often the inspiration for nearly all horror. Now that is not what you orginally said you wanted Valery Makarenkov in the game. Huge difference between the devs using reality for inspiration and your request for the actual killer.

  • Badmanone
    Badmanone Member Posts: 64

    ok but at least why is that a problem? inspired by a real life killer? isnt it part of artistic freedom? their are so many other games, movies, real life content, real documentaries with real kills. that Game here wouldnt be the worst thing. and that doesnt mean i think everything that happens outside of this forum is fine. just dont get me wrong guys. why do you think ######### will have a massive backlash? you have to explain that further because its already part of other games/videos without backlash.

  • lasombra1979
    lasombra1979 Member Posts: 1,142

    I am sorry but if you cannot grasp why introducing a real life mass killer into a video game is a bad idea on your own, nothing we can say will help you out there. The fact that most people in this thread have said its a bad idea should be a clue as to why it would be a bad idea.

  • Badmanone
    Badmanone Member Posts: 64

    @lasombra1979 said:
    I am sorry but if you cannot grasp why introducing a real life mass killer into a video game is a bad idea on your own, nothing we can say will help you out there. The fact that most people in this thread have said its a bad idea should be a clue as to why it would be a bad idea.

    yes i think youre right. its maybe a too big wall because of emotions and prejudices. not because of logic.

  • Badmanone
    Badmanone Member Posts: 64

    @Delfador said:

    @Badmanone said:

    @lasombra1979 said:
    I am sorry but if you cannot grasp why introducing a real life mass killer into a video game is a bad idea on your own, nothing we can say will help you out there. The fact that most people in this thread have said its a bad idea should be a clue as to why it would be a bad idea.

    yes i think youre right. its maybe a too big wall because of emotions and prejudices. not because of logic.

    Exactly. Logic is not the only part of humans. We have also emotions and prejudices. Your next post proves that.

    @Badmanone said:
    maybe we should think about a counterpart of tbagging? so killer should able to ######### survivors.

    You get so upset and emotional that people didn't like your opinion, you become salty. So instead of being a mature and accepting criticism, accepting that your idea was a bad one, you chose to be a dick. Dude if you are going to behave in this way, why do you create a post?

    Aristotle - There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, be nothing.

    fine. now you show your real face. instead of talking about facts youre getting emotional. sorry but we dont need more salty mad survivors like you. for sure a game is unrealistic if a survivor can do his testicle into killers mouth but killer cant ######### survivor. if you cant add any useful to this, you should better stay off.

    "We may assume the superiority ceteris paribus [all things being equal] of the demonstration which derives from fewer postulates or hypotheses—in short from fewer premisses; for... given that all these are equally well known, where they are fewer knowledge will be more speedily acquired, and that is a desideratum. The argument implied in our contention that demonstration from fewer assumptions is superior may be set out in universal form..."

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    @Badmanone said:

    @Delfador said:

    @Badmanone said:

    @lasombra1979 said:
    I am sorry but if you cannot grasp why introducing a real life mass killer into a video game is a bad idea on your own, nothing we can say will help you out there. The fact that most people in this thread have said its a bad idea should be a clue as to why it would be a bad idea.

    yes i think youre right. its maybe a too big wall because of emotions and prejudices. not because of logic.

    Exactly. Logic is not the only part of humans. We have also emotions and prejudices. Your next post proves that.

    @Badmanone said:
    maybe we should think about a counterpart of tbagging? so killer should able to ######### survivors.

    You get so upset and emotional that people didn't like your opinion, you become salty. So instead of being a mature and accepting criticism, accepting that your idea was a bad one, you chose to be a dick. Dude if you are going to behave in this way, why do you create a post?

    Aristotle - There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, be nothing.

    fine. now you show your real face. instead of talking about facts youre getting emotional. sorry but we dont need more salty mad survivors like you. for sure a game is unrealistic if a survivor can do his testicle into killers mouth but killer cant ######### survivor. if you cant add any useful to this, you should better stay off.

    "We may assume the superiority ceteris paribus [all things being equal] of the demonstration which derives from fewer postulates or hypotheses—in short from fewer premisses; for... given that all these are equally well known, where they are fewer knowledge will be more speedily acquired, and that is a desideratum. The argument implied in our contention that demonstration from fewer assumptions is superior may be set out in universal form..."

    Ok buddy whatever you say.

  • samirk98
    samirk98 Member Posts: 167
    Makarenkov ? All the real life killers in dbd ? Getting looped ? Nope if’s too disrespectful they don’t deserve to be in this game lol 
  • samirk98
    samirk98 Member Posts: 167
    I would like to have them in dbd seriously but all killers are ######### joke in this game so no lol but still i support your idea
  • CptainPotato
    CptainPotato Member Posts: 31

    If you want more insights on why this isn't a good idea:
    -Hey I got a new Idea, what about a bomber killer, like a terrorist that did 9/11, or why not Ossama Ben Laden ? HEY IT SHOULD BE A GREAT IDEA !

    Just no.

  • AshleyWB
    AshleyWB Member Posts: 4,061
    Donald Trump
  • chemical_reject
    chemical_reject Member Posts: 940
    Badmanone said:

    @azazer said:
    I don't really see the problem as long as you aren't putting real life killers in as is. Leather face was based off a real killer, yet there is no outcry for his inclusion in the game. So long as you just call it something else and take a little creative license killers based off real world people isn't some unspeakable taboo.

    yes i agree to you. its seems like people arguement with differernt measures and its more about their personal view on the world and not by logic. i mean its not something that was never done already or is forbidden? and i think makarenkov shouldnt be included like he is, thats true but inspired by him is really fine. otherwise this could be also a problem with "law". devs stated in stream that they was inspired by him for clown. if you search for it on google you find also another proofs.

    Texas Chainsaw was loosely based off "true" events. If they included the likeness of TRUE (in real life) people who were notorious for serial murder it would be considered  glorification and I think it would profit the murderers 
  • Badmanone
    Badmanone Member Posts: 64
    AshleyWB said:
    Donald Trump
    Omg that’s too much now! I didn’t see that someone glorify leatherface so far or even the real person he’s based on. Also other games or movies was completly 1:1 based on psychopaths and I never heard that someone was glorified by ppl. Why should be DbD different?
  • ChesterTheMolester
    ChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771

    If you want more insights on why this isn't a good idea:
    -Hey I got a new Idea, what about a bomber killer, like a terrorist that did 9/11, or why not Ossama Ben Laden ? HEY IT SHOULD BE A GREAT IDEA !

    Just no.

    Bin Laden would make a great survivor though, he managed to hide for 12 years.
  • KingArthanal
    KingArthanal Member Posts: 91

    If you want more insights on why this isn't a good idea:
    -Hey I got a new Idea, what about a bomber killer, like a terrorist that did 9/11, or why not Ossama Ben Laden ? HEY IT SHOULD BE A GREAT IDEA !

    Just no.

    Bin Laden would make a great survivor though, he managed to hide for 12 years.
    😂
  • ChesterTheMolester
    ChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771
    You know his threads and suggestions were ######### when he actually got banned here.
  • KingArthanal
    KingArthanal Member Posts: 91
    You know his threads and suggestions were ######### when he actually got banned here.
    Yes sad but true.
  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    edited July 2018
    Badmanone said:
    Omg that’s too much now! I didn’t see that someone glorify leatherface so far or even the real person he’s based on. Also other games or movies was completly 1:1 based on psychopaths and I never heard that someone was glorified by ppl. Why should be DbD different?
    Basically if a real life killer was introduced, then people would get upset because your glorifying that real life killer! Glorifying meaning: What that killer did was awesome.

    PS: You kinda deserved your ban for being a d*** to me and @Master on my endorsement post IMO. It actually feels good to see the ban hammer get rid of unwanted players! :lol:
  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    #stopthebans :)
  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    Lowbei said:
    #stopthebans :)
    You better watch out @Lowbei because I think the mods are gonna hunt you down next lmao. Jk, @Lowbei life's matter :lol:
  • KingArthanal
    KingArthanal Member Posts: 91
    edited July 2018
    Nickenzie said:
    Badmanone said:
    Omg that’s too much now! I didn’t see that someone glorify leatherface so far or even the real person he’s based on. Also other games or movies was completly 1:1 based on psychopaths and I never heard that someone was glorified by ppl. Why should be DbD different?
    Basically if a real life killer was introduced, then people would get upset because your glorifying that real life killer! Glorifying meaning: What that killer did was awesome.

    PS: You kinda deserved your ban for being a d*** to me and @Master on my endorsement post IMO. It actually feels good to see the ban hammer get rid of unwanted players! :lol:
    So many words just to say you’re a whiny child that can’t accept any other opinion than your own. Gz. Iam pretty sure you’re the next banned from what I read. At least because you didn’t fulfill age requirements.
  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    KingArthanal said:
    So many words just to say you’re a whiny child that can’t accept any other opinion than your own. Gz. Iam pretty sure you’re the next banned from what I read. At least because you didn’t fulfill age requirements.
    If your talking to me then guess what? If the mods was going to ban me then they would have done it already thank you very much :lol: Additionally there's a difference between giving your opinion on something and giving your disrespectful opinion on it. Maybe you shouldn't assume but what do I know? :sweat:
  • EpicFailTryHard
    EpicFailTryHard Member Posts: 1,316
    Badmanone said:

    i think it would be increasing the horror atmosphere of DbD a lot. my suggestion is to put Valery Makarenkov into the game. even meeting him inside DbD i would ######### my whole pants. we already know that the clown should show the real life killer John Wayne Gacy. so what do you think?


    ....and suddenly lowbei was akin to the pope.
  • KingArthanal
    KingArthanal Member Posts: 91

    @EpicFailTryHard said:
    Badmanone said:

    i think it would be increasing the horror atmosphere of DbD a lot. my suggestion is to put Valery Makarenkov into the game. even meeting him inside DbD i would ######### my whole pants. we already know that the clown should show the real life killer John Wayne Gacy. so what do you think?

    ....and suddenly lowbei was akin to the pope.

    good that hes banned now.

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    edited July 2018

    @EpicFailTryHard said:
    Badmanone said:

    i think it would be increasing the horror atmosphere of DbD a lot. my suggestion is to put Valery Makarenkov into the game. even meeting him inside DbD i would ######### my whole pants. we already know that the clown should show the real life killer John Wayne Gacy. so what do you think?

    ....and suddenly lowbei was akin to the pope.

    good that hes banned now.

    yeah, what a bad man?
  • ChesterTheMolester
    ChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771
    Badmanone said:

    i think it would be increasing the horror atmosphere of DbD a lot. my suggestion is to put Valery Makarenkov into the game. even meeting him inside DbD i would ######### my whole pants. we already know that the clown should show the real life killer John Wayne Gacy. so what do you think?


    ....and suddenly lowbei was akin to the pope.
    They can't ban him, Lowbei is Lowbae.
  • lasombra1979
    lasombra1979 Member Posts: 1,142

    @Lowbei said:
    KingArthanal said:

    @EpicFailTryHard said:

    Badmanone said:

    i think it would be increasing the horror atmosphere of DbD a lot. my suggestion is to put Valery Makarenkov into the game. even meeting him inside DbD i would ######### my whole pants. we already know that the clown should show the real life killer John Wayne Gacy. so what do you think?
    

    ....and suddenly lowbei was akin to the pope.

    good that hes banned now.

    yeah, what a bad man?

    Given most of his actual tasteless posts were deleted, hard to really show what type of scum he really was. I typically do not agree with bans and I hate overbearing mods, but this ban was completely warranted.

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637

    @Lowbei said:
    KingArthanal said:

    @EpicFailTryHard said:

    Badmanone said:

    i think it would be increasing the horror atmosphere of DbD a lot. my suggestion is to put Valery Makarenkov into the game. even meeting him inside DbD i would ######### my whole pants. we already know that the clown should show the real life killer John Wayne Gacy. so what do you think?
    

    ....and suddenly lowbei was akin to the pope.

    good that hes banned now.

    yeah, what a bad man?

    Given most of his actual tasteless posts were deleted, hard to really show what type of scum he really was. I typically do not agree with bans and I hate overbearing mods, but this ban was completely warranted.

    probably. these mods are fair :)
  • EpicFailTryHard
    EpicFailTryHard Member Posts: 1,316
    i saw a glimpse of what was said and i concur.  over the top.
  • lasombra1979
    lasombra1979 Member Posts: 1,142

    @Lowbei said:
    lasombra1979 said:

    @Lowbei said:

    KingArthanal said:

    @EpicFailTryHard said:
    
    Badmanone said:
    

    i think it would be increasing the horror atmosphere of DbD a lot. my suggestion is to put Valery Makarenkov into the game. even meeting him inside DbD i would ######### my whole pants. we already know that the clown should show the real life killer John Wayne Gacy. so what do you think?

    ....and suddenly lowbei was akin to the pope.
    
    
    
    good that hes banned now.
    

    yeah, what a bad man?

    Given most of his actual tasteless posts were deleted, hard to really show what type of scum he really was. I typically do not agree with bans and I hate overbearing mods, but this ban was completely warranted.

    probably. these mods are fair :)

    No, they really are not, shown by your treatment. This is probably the only time I have agreed with their actions toward the community. Either they let idiots be abusive or they attack even the most mild offense, just depends if they like you or not. This raging idiot though was sick, and disgusting and deserved his ban. The jail you keep getting is simple bullshit.

  • EpicFailTryHard
    EpicFailTryHard Member Posts: 1,316
    what about me?  i have only been jailed once...and...just look at me.  
  • EpicFailTryHard
    EpicFailTryHard Member Posts: 1,316
    oh...also, you can't say "bull-patty".  reported.
  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    edited July 2018

    @Lowbei said:
    lasombra1979 said:

    @Lowbei said:

    KingArthanal said:

    @EpicFailTryHard said:
    
    Badmanone said:
    

    i think it would be increasing the horror atmosphere of DbD a lot. my suggestion is to put Valery Makarenkov into the game. even meeting him inside DbD i would ######### my whole pants. we already know that the clown should show the real life killer John Wayne Gacy. so what do you think?

    ....and suddenly lowbei was akin to the pope.
    
    
    
    good that hes banned now.
    

    yeah, what a bad man?

    Given most of his actual tasteless posts were deleted, hard to really show what type of scum he really was. I typically do not agree with bans and I hate overbearing mods, but this ban was completely warranted.

    probably. these mods are fair :)

    No, they really are not, shown by your treatment. This is probably the only time I have agreed with their actions toward the community. Either they let idiots be abusive or they attack even the most mild offense, just depends if they like you or not. This raging idiot though was sick, and disgusting and deserved his ban. The jail you keep getting is simple bullshit.

    to be honest, i missed the show with this badone guy. he must have been quite the character.
  • EpicFailTryHard
    EpicFailTryHard Member Posts: 1,316
    he could have taught you a thing or two about trolling.
  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    what about me?  i have only been jailed once...and...just look at me.  
    stop begging for attention. nobody likes you. no offense.
  • EpicFailTryHard
    EpicFailTryHard Member Posts: 1,316
    begging for attention?  is that what we are doing here?
  • EpicFailTryHard
    EpicFailTryHard Member Posts: 1,316
    interesting.
  • lasombra1979
    lasombra1979 Member Posts: 1,142

    @Lowbei said:

    to be honest, i missed the show with this badone guy. he must have been quite the character.

    He had requested sexual assualt as a game mechanic.

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637

    @Lowbei said:

    to be honest, i missed the show with this badone guy. he must have been quite the character.

    He had requested sexual assualt as a game mechanic.

    ahh i see
  • KingArthanal
    KingArthanal Member Posts: 91
    I don’t know if this badman was a „bad man“ or good man but some of his ideas was really interesting. It’s new to me that you could get banned for wrong ideas as long you stay polite. other guys flaming or insulting other ppl don’t get banned lol. Seems weird to me and abused ban system. Not my problem so far.