Why is everyone so sensitive about pointing out things that can help you?
Lately, and especially with the recent matchmaking system I have been paired with SWF groups who have someone within the 18-20 rank level range.
This is obviously someone fresh and very new, so rather than just leaving for the sake of avoiding a possible bad match, I stay because I don't want to be a "lobby dodger" just because of a rank. I also try to make it a learning experience for myself because it can sometimes force you to "carry" someone, and also to share tips that I had wish someone had shared with me when I was new.
I have noticed though that many players immediately go into a defensive mode, and my guess is maybe it had something to do with the way the game went for them and so the last thing they want to hear is someone trying to share a tip or two of what could have been done differently.
This is (personally) where I feel the game has a huge learning gap potential. There are many outlets outside of the game (Youtube/Twitch) where you can pick up a thing or two...or through word of mouth. The game itself, however, doesn't cover many of the things that are important...even in it's own tutorial. Consequently you get people making the same mistakes over and over because they didn't know any better.
I guess my whole point of this post is to encourage other survivors to try to help newbies even if they aren't your friends. Let's make it a new meta to communicate to each other before and after match... and in a manner that will help them, even if its something as simple as "make yourself as efficient as possible".
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Because most normal people feel insulted when they are told how to do something they didn't ask to be told how to do.
How to drive, how to mow, how cook, are all things no one likes being told how to do.
Sometimes we need to be told better but it doesn't change our nature. It's natural to feel slighted.
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HOW DARE YOU POINT OUT MY FLAWS MORTAL
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Because people think that they know everything. It's simple.
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@Theoretical_Heart I guess it does take a specific person to not react immediately.
I mean, I don't really like being told what to do, but if someone came to me and said
"Hey, you know how you dropped that pallet instead of getting away, so they didn't get a second hook... this could be something that could help you in future games."
I would totally take them up on it and improve my game, but as you said not everyone has the same reaction.
I just wish BHVR did a better job at providing tools to accommodate newbies in this new matchmaking system. It's not very beginner friendly... and I understand their own friends have a responsibility, and I am willing to do my part... but at the end of the day, the game itself should provide tools as well.
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yea I try to do it as well, but any time they just get defensive and toxic. I once had a Nancy camp god pallet, she got hit through it, she dropped it, then used an insta heal, and this was not even a minute into the match. Told her that this was a bad play and she simply should of ran when hit for the speed boost, but she just called me a toxic killer main.
Sometimes you can't change people, so you just gotta let them fail for a while until they learn their mistakes. It sucks since you know they can improve, but that's how it is sometimes.
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@Theoretical_Heart Not only that, but it also comes down to: Who the hell is this person to tell me how I should be doing something?
Most people will accept advice and tips from an expert in the given field or activity. But, and especially in video games where it's an unknown, faceless player behind an avatar and screenname, the initial reaction is: Who is this person to offer unsolicited advice? Are they a pro? An expert?
The person giving the advice might have just had a great game and made some great plays, but who's to say that's a normal game for them and wasn't just an outlier where the stars aligned for them?
It's like when people throw out advice and tips on the forums that weren't asked for, and then tout their 1k or 2k hours in DbD. So what? I'd imagine many Red Ranked players have those hours, and yet people complain constantly that Red Ranks have too many potato players. Hours plays don't necessarily make them good, and I'd rather take advice from someone I have seen is consistently good at the game.
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Hell, i'd like people to tell me what I can do better. Might get a bit annoyed if it's alot, but i'll take the tips.
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In today's society you can't do that. Someone will surely get their feelings hurt. Let everyone fend for themselves.
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I think people imagine you saying it with a really mean tone of voice.
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I always start with "hey there buddy."
Has like a 70% success rate.
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Yesterday i met a person who didnt know egc was a thing and explained why the hatch was shut. They took it pretty well.
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