why do killers sometimes camp you to death if you use decisive

Well that and depending on level.

they may not realize it hurts them there thinking I got one you know.

Also it’s easier to wait for you by a hook then roam 7 gens.

Maybe they just dont like you, your playstyle or the obnoxious perk which became the Face for "Second Chance Perks" 😗

Or it could be they're trying to get you to Ragequit. A killer spending just 5 seconds standing still next to a hook strangely causes the game to bug out and disconnect the hooked survivor. Happens (un)surprisingly often.

Maybe theyre part of the so called facecampers who do it by principle instead of reasons?

Being semi decent at the game on either side pisses most people off it seems in general. If a killer camps me or any of my teammates I just take it as a their trying to take back some power Bc they feel like they’re losing, or they’re just bad at chasing, or wasted too much time chasing. Most of the time I understand why they do it by the way the game is going.

It's why I hate when people are twins or triplets, and I always switch characters to avoid being part of that. It does confuse the Killer and I think sometimes Killers perceive it as toxic when everyone's wearing the same exact outfit.

@Nicholas While i do have an underlying feeling of it being a low key toxic thing. They do themselves more harm. Not all the triplets or duos are toxic (like sometimes it's one or two) and I often pick out what survivor im going to carry to hatch or to unpowered gate (if game gets to that point) but I cant keep track of how many times ive hooked who in those situations. And mistakes are made and people die unintentionally when i wasnt really trying to kill them. (Least not then)

OK. So it's the job of the killer to generate tempo for the entire game. Every single DS over the course of the game causes a significant decrease in tempo- it isn't just the case that one survivor gets a second chance--the entire survivor team get a reprive (that feeling you get as a survivor when a survivor goes down then is suddenly back to injured- that's not just camaraderie- you now know the approximate location of the killer, know someone is likely occupying their time and don't have drop your current task).

At red ranks if you get hit by DS and there are four survivors left and two or less gens, then, unless you're playing a killer who can use their power and perks to snowball very rapidly (instadown potential basically), the game is over--the gates are getting powered. However-- the survivor that just jumped off your shoulder is injured and either has 1 or 0 hooks left in them. Camping the survivor is either a last ditch attempt to bait out poorly executed altruism plays OR resignation to loss and the decision that its better to get 3 tbags at the exit gate rather than 4.

Moreover: as a fairly experienced killer the ONLY time I will ever get hit by DS is if I didn't realise the perk was still up- not someone I tunneled off the hook, someone I bump into and down without realising its been under a minute since their unhook. It feels incredibly unfair to be punished by an 'anti-tunneling' perk when you aren't tunneling- the desire to throw some unfair punishment back at the survivor is (imo) understandable.

Tl:dr- If any killer with even moderate playtime decides to camp you after a DS, it's likely resignation to loss fueling the desire to secure at least one kill on the person who 'deserves' it most. Not the best note to end a game on, but an understandable reaction which is well within the killer's discretion.

I think if we really want to put an end to facecamping, we're going about it the wrong way. Instead of penalizing the killer's score and creating all of these anti-camping and anti-tunneling perks (most of which end up being incredibly powerful even if the killer isn't camping or tunneling), we should reward killers for leaving the hook. And not just with arbitrary rank points or band-aid perks.

Killers facecamp because they see no alternative way to get a kill. They know that if they leave the hook, it'll take all of ten seconds before the hooked survivor is unhooked, and it's unlikely that they'll catch another survivor before everyone escapes.

The best solution I've come up with is relatively simple: if the Killer isn't near the hook, then unhooking a survivor takes much longer (20 seconds, maybe more). To prevent the killer from just leaving the hook and immediately coming back, the survivor is instantly unhooked if the killer returns during this process.

This way, the killer can feel more comfortable leaving a hooked survivor alone, knowing that the survivors will waste a fair amount of time on the unhook, even if there's a survivor in the bushes just waiting for the killer to leave.

This idea would probably need some tweaking, but I think it's better than piling on even more punishments for camping, without addressing the reason why a lot of killers choose to camp in the first place.

Because you aren't allowed to use ds, didn't you know?

DS left scars in the minds of some Killers.

You foiled their plan for a quick easy tunnel.

Salt is probably the most often the reason why

Provided my team is smart enough to do gens I have no issue with being face camped. I just hang there thinking okay we'll depip together then. When your team insists on trying to rescue is when I get aggravated.

What do you get when you cross a mentally sweaty Killer with Survivors that bully him and treat him like trash? I'll tell you what you get!

YOU GET WHAT YOU ######### DESERVE!

Actually dude, it's salt.

Live and die by the face campers code

Because of the salt. They don’t realize its their fault for tunneling.

UNLESS they decided to tunnel you for something else even before you used your DS -tbagging, FL spam, emotes, etc - in that case they are partially justified

Decisive comes with a price. If a killer decides to eat it they know they can tunnel you. So that's why that happens.

It's because you used Decisive Strike.

Some players can't handle dealing with things they don't like, and opt for very disproportionate retribution, because they're bad players who cannot adapt to their circumstances. As my wife puts it, "They probably do stuff like this because this video game is probably the only thing these people have in life."

If I am playing killer, and I suspect someone has Decisive Strike, I have two reasonable options that don't set me back (which is what a facecamp would 100% do). Either I: a) Choose to eat the DS (which I will if it's early enough in the game), or b) Leave them on the floor (or whatever locker they hop into).

It's not that hard. Just accept that this is a mechanic that is going to be in play sometimes. If someone's your obsession and you don't have any obsession perks, do the math.